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Offline Baradium

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Re: King Air Survives Structural Damage
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2007, 06:49:27 PM »
Back to the video, I'm surprised they allowed that guy to film the plane after they landed.  Wouldn't the company want to keep a lid on that until after the investigation?


The pilots probobly just wanted to get out of there.  As far as the company is concerned, they wouldn't have had anyone on the scene anyway.  Nevermind that at that point it was on a public ramp so there's not much stopping the local pilots from going out and looking at it.

I'm curious what the NTSB report will say.
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Re: King Air Survives Structural Damage
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2007, 01:46:32 AM »
or even if there will be a report.  Isnt there some thing in there that says it has to be of a certain severity to even be reported?  I know when one of our warriors hit a deer and basicly destroyed a wing and a landing gear strut it was never reported.
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Re: King Air Survives Structural Damage
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2007, 01:57:59 AM »
or even if there will be a report.  Isnt there some thing in there that says it has to be of a certain severity to even be reported?  I know when one of our warriors hit a deer and basicly destroyed a wing and a landing gear strut it was never reported.

I believe one factor is whether it happens in flight.      That aircraft is probobly totaled I imagine... the entire airframe looks like it's been overstressed, I wouldn't be surprised if the fuselage is bent.     I'd think they'd do a report on that one because it did such a large amount of damage and came so close to being a fatal one. 

Remember, an aircraft that only goes up to 25,000 ft, regardless of what cabin altitude it maintains, is NOT considered pressurized at this time by the FAA.   Below 25,000 you also don't need quick donning masks.  This is why on our 1900s the passenger oxygen masks are "automatically" deployed by us pulling a knob.  The crew masks are under covers above our heads and there is a knob to start oxygen flow to them as well (most of our captains leave it pulled as I believe I mentioned earlier).   I could see an incident like this causing a change in the way of thinking for oxygen systems.   If they determine that the O2 knob was frozen or similiar it could change their way of thinking regarding flow to the masks.   The aircraft this happened to was very similiar to what I fly.  Imagine if something like this happened on an airliner filled with passengers.

I'll be quite surprised if they don't do a report simply becuase the number of 1900 airliners there are flying around that use similiar or identical systems.
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Re: King Air Survives Structural Damage
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2007, 05:02:00 AM »
or even if there will be a report.  Isnt there some thing in there that says it has to be of a certain severity to even be reported?  I know when one of our warriors hit a deer and basicly destroyed a wing and a landing gear strut it was never reported.

I believe one factor is whether it happens in flight.      That aircraft is probobly totaled I imagine... the entire airframe looks like it's been overstressed, I wouldn't be surprised if the fuselage is bent.     I'd think they'd do a report on that one because it did such a large amount of damage and came so close to being a fatal one. 

Remember, an aircraft that only goes up to 25,000 ft, regardless of what cabin altitude it maintains, is NOT considered pressurized at this time by the FAA.   Below 25,000 you also don't need quick donning masks.  This is why on our 1900s the passenger oxygen masks are "automatically" deployed by us pulling a knob.  The crew masks are under covers above our heads and there is a knob to start oxygen flow to them as well (most of our captains leave it pulled as I believe I mentioned earlier).   I could see an incident like this causing a change in the way of thinking for oxygen systems.   If they determine that the O2 knob was frozen or similiar it could change their way of thinking regarding flow to the masks.   The aircraft this happened to was very similiar to what I fly.  Imagine if something like this happened on an airliner filled with passengers.

I'll be quite surprised if they don't do a report simply becuase the number of 1900 airliners there are flying around that use similiar or identical systems.

I think you're right.  There will be some major studying of all the systems and the structure on this one.  The NTSB and manufacturer will want to find out what failed, what didn't and where they can make improvements to the plane and procedures.  It's a rare opportunity, since this sort of situation usually results in digging tiny pieces out of the ground.   ::sick::

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Re: King Air Survives Structural Damage
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2007, 04:47:14 PM »
Did they ever say if there were passengers on board?

The definition of accident has a dollar value attached to it, though I forget what that amount is.  I'd bet that this damage exceeded that amount.
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