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Offline AirtransRecon

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How not to treat a stranded flight
« on: January 14, 2007, 03:33:55 PM »
No wonder the general public has nighmares about flying.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07009/752402-84.stm

Given the option, I'll take Air Cessna.

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Re: How not to treat a stranded flight
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2007, 04:00:41 PM »
Air Cessna----no kidding!
I like the Captain's positive action at the end---she should have run out of patience sooner ::complaining:
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Re: How not to treat a stranded flight
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2007, 06:48:32 PM »
Interesteing.  Its always a good idea to carry extra fuel, cause the sky is big, and if youre willing to divert 100 or even 200 miles outta the way, ATC will gladly modify your flight plan to get you around a storm.  We dont intentionall out you guys in the middle of the soup.
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Re: How not to treat a stranded flight
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2007, 10:59:36 PM »
And people wonder why I don't visit my family at Christmas...   ::loony::

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Re: How not to treat a stranded flight
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2007, 04:30:18 AM »
Just wondering, if the passengers were asking to leave the plane, but not allowed to, could the flight crew be charged with kidnapping?  ie holding someone against their will?  Also, are there any FAR's preventing a passenger from opening a door and exiting on their own?

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Re: How not to treat a stranded flight
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2007, 05:46:46 PM »
Quote from: tundra_flier on January 23, 2007, 04:30:18 AM
Just wondering, if the passengers were asking to leave the plane, but not allowed to, could the flight crew be charged with kidnapping?  ie holding someone against their will?  Also, are there any FAR's preventing a passenger from opening a door and exiting on their own?

Phil

I dont think there are, and I spose they could be charged with kidnapping.... 
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Re: How not to treat a stranded flight
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2007, 08:09:30 PM »
For international flights, no one can open a door if they're not at a terminal with customs available.  I don't believe there is a regulation against a passenger opening a door, but there are probably many airline policies prohibiting it.  Not sure what good opening the door would do, though.  You'd be 20 feet off the ground with no ladder...
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Re: How not to treat a stranded flight
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2007, 08:32:51 PM »
I was thinking that might fall under the FAR's for unothorized tampering with an aircraft.  Opening a door would have at least got some fresh air in there.  As for the drop, do the slides automatically deploy when the emergency doors are opened?  Besides, after 22 hours in coach, a 20' drop to the tarmack might look tempting.   >:D
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Re: How not to treat a stranded flight
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2007, 08:34:34 PM »
I'm not sure how the slides work.  I would imagine the flight attendant disables the slide before she opens the door at the jet-way.
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Re: How not to treat a stranded flight
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2007, 07:18:11 AM »
It's against federal law to disobey a crewmember on board an aircraft.  Once that door closes, if you want off, it is at the captain's descretion.  He never has *any* obligation to let you off just because you want him to, even if you're still at the gate.   They can't be charged with kidnapping because the law gives them that authority.

On older aircraft, there's basically a hook that hooks the top of the slide to the airframe with the door closed, opening the door without releasing it will activate the slide to deploy.   On newer ones it's a lever in or next to the door itself.   


So yes, the FARs do prevent you with just exiting on your own.  This falls under the laws the same way as if you tried to open a door while the aircraft was taxiing out for departure.

 
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Re: How not to treat a stranded flight
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2007, 09:04:16 AM »
Thanks, I thought it was something along those lines.  Makes airline travel that much scarier.   ::banghead::

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