Some hand-picked pictures of some wild flying (any of you done similar?)

[Frank N. O.]

First off here's a wild Twin Otter approach, I wonder if Soccermom have done similar (I seem to remember you flying a Twin Otter right?)?
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0543650/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0931203/L/

One heck of a water-drop by one heck of a plane!
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1112325/L/

Note the two people that are ducking behind the fence under the tail of the plane! 
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1078027/L/

At least this looks pretty wild but possibly this is due to the angle, there is still something about those low long thin planes of that series, SAS have been using them for decadeshttp://www.airliners.net/open.file/0992312/L/

A relative of Turbomallard perhaps?
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0981388/L/

This might be a familiar site to some here at the forum but here we don't even have bikepaths that bad!
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0394818/L/

Frank

[undatc]

very nice, here is one of my favorite water drop pics.

[Baradium]

Does that KLM plane have "The Flying Dutchman" written after of the wings?  Just forward and under the rearmost side door.


Looks like they landed well before the actual runway... wonder if ATC caught that one...

[Frank N. O.]

Cool waterdrop picture! 

Yes it does indeed look like it says the flying dutchman on the back there, but why do you think it landed early? How can you tell?

Frank

[fireflyr]

Cool waterdrop picture! 

Yes it does indeed look like it says the flying dutchman on the back there, but why do you think it landed early? How can you tell?

Frank

The 747 had not reached the runway threshold markings yet

[undatc]

but he wasnt down yet, had a few feet to go, and at the speed, i bet he would be very close to the taxi way marking, i dont even see a threshold marking near that.  I know that aiport is in the carribbean somewhere, i cant remember the name off hand, Saint something or other.  Possiable they dont have threshold markings there?

[Frank N. O.]

LOL it just dawned on me that I thought the early landing was the KLM plane with the duck! I'd completely forgotten about that 747 (ya'll must've thought I was blind not to see that the 747 landing was short) 

Can someone tell me if that Twin Otter actually could've made that landing at that approach angle and with such a short runway?

Frank

[undatc]

LOL it just dawned on me that I thought the early landing was the KLM plane with the duck! I'd completely forgotten about that 747 (ya'll must've thought I was blind not to see that the 747 landing was short) 

Can someone tell me if that Twin Otter actually could've made that landing at that approach angle and with such a short runway?

Frank

Sure, why not?  I see caravans (about the same size) make landings about that dinstance and angle all the time.  Fed Ex has a base at GFK, and they use caravans between all the small airports in the region.  Anyways, they come in for landings at GFK on the big runway, when landing north, on 17, they ask for a shrot approach usually, turn base about 3/4 down the end of the runway, and nose it over.  They use only about 1/2 the runway, and exit right at their base.  No long taxi's.

[TheSoccerMom]

Hi Frank,

Thanks for the cool post.  Great shots!   

The Otter shots are from a neat angle, but it does have a nosedown attitude, more so with more flaps.  It requires much more of a "roundout" on touchdown because of the nosedown angle, especially with full flaps.

On an aborted landing with full flaps, the initial climb attitude isn't even up to nose-level...  that is how much of a nosedown pitch it carries on final with full flaps.  I've heard of one fatal accident where the pilot had full flaps and pitched to what is "normally" considered a usual climb (pitch) attitude, and stalled and crashed. 

It can easily land on the runway shown...  it was made for short / rough fields and arctic work.  Those island hops have the added bonus of sea level performance, too.  It's a better performer than everything that has been built to imitate it, in my humble opinion.  I'm certainly no expert in the machine (I wish I was!!!), but I've landed in 300 feet and taken off in 600-700 feet...  it just wants to fly, and was built to fly.  Last summer I went out of a pretty rough grass strip with a fairly heavy load of guys, and it was over 4300 feet elevation, and I was flying well before the halfway mark (of 1000 feet).  I think in our little "quickie fire guide book" for air operations, a "generic" airport for a Twin Otter to operate in and out of is a minimum length of 2000 feet;  the other airplanes listed show 3000 - 4500 foot minimum-length runways.

Of course, I expect that Mike will point out HE doesn't "need no stinking runways!!!!!!!!!!!"              

[TheSoccerMom]

Here's one of my favorite fire pictures....  it's from a good angle, so looks wilder than it really was.  He's following the lead plane down the (unseen) ridge, along the fire's edge, to drop the retardant. 

Hope you like it! 

[fireflyr]

That was one of the best, Brent Conner, flying that day---the  telephoto lens makes the airplane look closer to the people then it actually was.  Mike Lynn was the leadplane pilot on that run and both he and Brent concur that it looked much dicier than it really was in fact.

[TheSoccerMom]

Yup!

Brent just laughed when people brought it up...  but it IS a cool shot.  And I agree, he is a great guy.   

I sure wish I would have been rich enough to own a camera, all the years I was on fire.  I try not to think about all the shots I wish I had!   

 

[fireflyr]

Yup!

Brent just laughed when people brought it up...  but it IS a cool shot.  And I agree, he is a great guy.   

I sure wish I would have been rich enough to own a camera, all the years I was on fire.  I try not to think about all the shots I wish I had!   

 

ME TOO!!
I've tried dragging my 35MM along and I've tried disposables but it seems like I've always been too busy over the fire to scrounge a camera off the floor or out of my flight bag for a fast shot---I just bought a pocket size Casio digital that I hope will enable me get some quick pictures--with my average of one good picture out of a hundred, I might be able capture something decent---we will see

[Frank N. O.]

Ok I got a lot of posts to reply to, here goes!

I wondered if the Otter could land because from the glide-paths I normally see then it would overshoot the runway and probably not be able to stop soon enough, but I guess I again lack real life knowledge 

Those are some great looking water drop photos. That wild looking one, is that a converted bomber? And how far away from the ridge/people was he?

While driving I also miss several chances of some nice shots, like two sightings of a Lamborghini Murcielago driving right past me on the other side of the road, the OScar, a boxy black/yellow woodcar based on Volvo parts built in DK,  an RDAF (I think) Hercules flying low overhead, a Beech V-Tail at Roskilde Airport etc. I btw have a Kodak digital camera, my first ever and it's a couple of years old but can even record video with audio

Frank

[fireflyr]

Ok I got a lot of posts to reply to, here goes!

I wondered if the Otter could land because from the glide-paths I normally see then it would overshoot the runway and probably not be able to stop soon enough, but I guess I again lack real life knowledge 

Those are some great looking water drop photos. That wild looking one, is that a converted bomber? And how far away from the ridge/people was he?

While driving I also miss several chances of some nice shots, like two sightings of a Lamborghini Murcielago driving right past me on the other side of the road, the OScar, a boxy black/yellow woodcar based on Volvo parts built in DK,  an RDAF (I think) Hercules flying low overhead, a Beech V-Tail at Roskilde Airport etc. I btw have a Kodak digital camera, my first ever and it's a couple of years old but can even record video with audio

Frank

Good questions Frank,
The T-Otter will just about fall out off the sky w/full flaps, power back, and props pulled flat----but I'd better let S'mom elaborate on that since she's current and has much more time in them
The A/C in the drop picture is an SP2H which is a converted P2V Neptune the Navy used to use for anti-submarine patrol,  the jet engines  have been removed for wieght savings.