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Offline Baradium

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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2006, 04:15:07 AM »
I saw Russia today.

That is all.

Oh, and I took a picture or two.  Expect postings of them and more in a week or two.
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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2006, 01:48:19 AM »
I just want everyone to know that Alaska is on the cutting edge when it comes to aviation.  Check out this pic of the C/F-150 Sparrowhawk air superiority fighter being loaded with an air to air missle:



This picture was taken at great risk to life and limb.....seeing as I was on East Ramp......
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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2006, 02:27:23 PM »
OMIGOSH!!  Lucky you weren't shot for taking pictures of the Sparrowhawk fighter--I heard it was a "black" project!---Now the enemy knows what we've got in reserve! :-\

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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2006, 04:39:20 PM »
Plus now they know the stories of little green men are true (I'm 175cm and could barely walk under the Cardinal and these guys(?)can reach their arms up)  :D

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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2006, 08:00:03 PM »
Those are the North Pole black ops elves.  |:)\
You didn't think its just a coincidence that there's an army base on one side of North Pole, and airforce on the other did you?  ;)

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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2006, 03:59:11 AM »
You mean the CIA finally recruited Santa Claus--- :'( makes sense though since he knows who's naughty or nice  ;)

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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2006, 01:53:11 AM »
Had something happen today that reminded me of something else "Only in Alaska". 

I'm the manager of a building materials store.  The owner's a pilot (twin rated as well), I'm a pilot and both my assistant manager and recieving clerk are aviation enthusiasts.  Anyhow, this customer comes in and is exchanging two kitchen cabinets for a different one.  He was in a bit of a hurry as the weather is "iffy" today and he had to fly back to the job site.  We get to BSing and he's flying a Piper PA22/20 Pacer on floats.  We chat for a bit about the PA22/20 conversion and out he goes.

Now what this put me in mind of is external loads on aircraft (not helicopters, fixed wing  ;D).  I have one customer that flew an entire cabin in with a Maule (M-7 I believe).  He has an external rack that he puts sheets of plywood on (and large windows since he bought them from me  ;) ) I asked him what difference it made and he said when landing with the plywood it liked to float a LOT more :P 

One of the common things flown about Alaska are canoes.  Generally you see them under DeHavilland DHC-2 Beavers on floats.  Some canoes are square stern.  So here's the question to you aerodyamically minded people:  What is the correct way to carry a square stern canoe under a Beaver?  Stern first or nose first, and why?

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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2006, 02:31:52 AM »

One of the common things flown about Alaska are canoes.  Generally you see them under DeHavilland DHC-2 Beavers on floats.  Some canoes are square stern.  So here's the question to you aerodyamically minded people:  What is the correct way to carry a square stern canoe under a Beaver?  Stern first or nose first, and why?


I'd assume nose first since that's the way the boat goes through the water.  The turbulence following the square stern may form a virtual tail that reduces the drag somewhat.  A flat front would seem to cause an abrupt change in airflow that would create more drag.  But I'm not a fluid dynamics expert, so what is obvious to me may be completely wrong!

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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2006, 02:47:22 AM »
I'd guess stern first because, in spite of the square transom, the cross section of which would about 2 square feet, it would allow a more laminar airflow...................then again if ole Bubba down in New Orleans was a'doing it, he's strap it sideways under dat wing because it be mo round under de bottom! :D :D

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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2006, 04:26:33 AM »
I vote bow first.  Seems to me if the flat rear was worse than a flat front boats wouldn't be designed like they are.  ;)
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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2006, 03:15:05 PM »
Stern first. It prevents adverse wake effects on the tail  ;D
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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2006, 08:52:09 PM »
Nice photo!!  That's a U.S. Forest Service Beaver from the Northeastern Region -- they fly out of Ely, Minnesota, mostly.  I believe they still own two Beavers there...
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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2006, 09:49:39 PM »
Nice photo!!  That's a U.S. Forest Service Beaver from the Northeastern Region -- they fly out of Ely, Minnesota, mostly.  I believe they still own two Beavers there...

That is directly from their website...I didn't take the pic  ;)  Usually I flag it when I post a pic I didn't take, but as there was no credit I could see on their website for the pic, so I had nobody to credit it to.  I belong to several aircraft picture trading groups and we are touchy about giving credit and not reposting other people's pics.  That pic is linked directly to their website :)

Up here in Alaska, there are a LOT of Beavers.  Very useful for lodge and flight seeing operations.  Lots of conversions too like the Magnum Beaver.  A few Otters and a couple turbine Otters as well.  I LOVE the sound of them round engines!
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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2006, 09:52:40 PM »
Glad you specified Minnesota SoccerMom, cause as you know theres nothing even resembling that down here in Ely, Nevada.  wish there was sometimes though.
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Re: Only in Alaska...
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2006, 11:46:20 PM »
I vote bow first.  Seems to me if the flat rear was worse than a flat front boats wouldn't be designed like they are.  ;)
Stern first. It prevents adverse wake effects on the tail ;D

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