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Offline Mike

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taking off with one million pounds!
« on: September 04, 2010, 03:51:57 PM »
Man, I wonder what the Wright brothers would say to this if they were still alive.

B747 taking off with one million pounds of cargo!
Quite a milestone I think:

http://www.boeing.com:80/Features/2010/08/bca_one_million_08_23_10.html
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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2010, 11:55:54 PM »
WOW!!!! That's IMPRESSIVE!!!!!  ::unbelieveable::  EVEN for a mighty 747
YEWWWwwwwwwwww

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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2010, 04:27:18 AM »
Man, I wonder what the Wright brothers would say to this if they were still alive.

B747 taking off with one million pounds of cargo!
Quite a milestone I think:

http://www.boeing.com:80/Features/2010/08/bca_one_million_08_23_10.html

Wasn't 500 tons the Aircraft Gross Weight ???   (1 million pounds)
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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 12:49:30 PM »
Wasn't 500 tons the Aircraft Gross Weight ???   (1 million pounds)
Yes it was GTW.

Certified GTW will be: 975,000 lbs.
We engineers know we cannot trust all airlines.
There are airlines that if there is a bare spot in the Aisle, they will let another passenger, goat or whatever on board. 
So, engineers kept throwing more plates into the cargo hold while chanting, "she can do it"

I would have only been worried if we had an aborted takeoff.  Brakes so hot you could have all the Orville Redenbacher popcorn you want.

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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 08:04:24 PM »
where you actually right there during all these test, Ragwing ? ? ?

that's awesome!
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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2010, 04:53:07 PM »
Wow, that's fantastic :o
One question: What is Orville Redenbacher popcorn?

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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 04:14:44 AM »
Orville Redenbacher is a brand name popcorn that lists itself as gourmet.

Popcorn or popping corn is a type of corn which explodes from the kernel and puffs up when heated.

Corn popping was originally discovered by Native Americans, but became popular as a snack food during the United States Great Depression.
When Americans go to movie theaters, it is one of the most purchased items.

Many enjoy purchasing popcorn with melted butter drizzled over it.


I grew up with a large skillet and a high top lid.
We would pop large bags of popcorn and sit in front of our black and white television and enjoy the popcorn.

Each kernel of popcorn contains a certain amount of moisture and oil. Unlike most other grains, the outer hull of the popcorn kernel is both strong and impervious to moisture and the starch inside consists almost entirely of a hard, dense type.

As the oil and the water are heated past the boiling point, they turn the moisture in the kernel into a superheated pressurized steam, contained within the moisture-proof hull. Under these conditions, the starch inside the kernel gelatinizes, softening and becoming pliable. The pressure continues to increase until the breaking point of the hull is reached: The hull ruptures rapidly, causing a sudden drop in pressure inside the kernel and a corresponding rapid expansion of the steam, which expands the starch and proteins of the into airy foam. As the foam rapidly cools, the starch and protein polymers set into the familiar crispy puff.


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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2010, 04:41:32 AM »
 ::thinking:: can't help but notice somebody is trying to avoid MY question . . .  ::thinking:: ::sulk::
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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2010, 01:24:45 PM »
::thinking:: can't help but notice somebody is trying to avoid MY question . . . 
Answering questions on pop-corn was more fun.

I was not at the 747-8 maximum gross takeoff weight test.
Every calculation was done beforehand. 
Rejected takeoff points were determined.
The pilots flew the mission in the simulator numerous times.
Everything from engine failures to flight control failures were tested.
Earlier tests were reviewed to check acceleration of actual vs theoretical.

Down the hall, we have a conference room that is designed to display live data throughout the test flight.
On one floor, we have simulators displaying everything the pilots have so that at any point in the test flight, we can game solutions to problems.

This is a different world than when we use to wait for computer tapes to be rushed over after the flight.

I am typically deployed after there is a problem.  Not before.

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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2010, 11:49:45 AM »
Wow, that's definately one way to make plain popcorn sound fantastic! I had actually thought the name was a nick-name for shrapnel or something from the brakes from an emergency-stop. Quite an explanation though  |:)\
I only tried popcorn for the first time earlier this year, not bad actually, and that was cheap supermarket stuff too.

I would've personally loved to have been able to see that jumbo take off in person.

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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2010, 11:27:18 AM »
Rejected takeoff tests:

At maximum gross takeoff weight, you have a whole lot of energy to dissipate.
The only way it can go is via physics...... HEAT

Fire crews are on standby
Brakes become cherry red to hotter.
Some tires may burst into flame
Brake fluid may catch fire


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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2010, 02:36:23 PM »
Rejected takeoff tests:

At maximum gross takeoff weight, you have a whole lot of energy to dissipate.
The only way it can go is via physics...... HEAT

Fire crews are on standby
Brakes become cherry red to hotter.
Some tires may burst into flame
Brake fluid may catch fire




I've seen a few brake fires on smaller airplanes.   ::eek::

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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2010, 09:09:45 AM »
Here are to videos from the A340-600 MTOW-certification that didn't turn out as expected on the first try:

From the outside
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UocxPoUUnIQ

Bellycamera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRzWp67PIMw

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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2010, 10:57:43 PM »
HOLY FLIRTING SCHMITT!!  ::eek:: ::eek:: ::eek::  ::unbelieveable:: ::unbelieveable:: ::unbelieveable::
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Re: taking off with one million pounds!
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2010, 11:40:04 PM »
Dude!  ::unbelieveable:: ::unbelieveable:: ::eek:: ::eek:: Why the heck were they so slow to get the pilots out of the plane? I would've seriously thought about just releasing the emergency slide if I'd seen those flames on the monitor.

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