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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2009, 09:43:36 AM »
No, the FAA did not hang back and for good reason.  Here is the full letter of revocation:  http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/cheney+emor_Revised.pdf?elr=KArks:DCiUHc3E7_V_nDaycUiacyKUUr

Look at page 4 to see the most damning paragraph,
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NW188 was without communication with any Air Traffic Control facility and with its company dispatch for a period of 91 minutes (not 78 minutes as the press was reporting) (over 1.5 hours) while you were on a frolic of your own.
A frolic.  I do not believe anyone has ever seen such strong language in an emergency revocation order before.
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...This is a total dereliction and disregard for your duties
The FAA is making it clear they will not tolerate this sort of thing.  The current FAA administrator is Randy Babbit, who is a former Eastern Airlines pilot and former ALPA president.  I believe he is marking his territory in no uncertain terms.

Keep in mind that these pilots' actions led to the scrambling of military fighters to intercept them and The White House itself had been notified of a wayward airplane.  They were genuinely concerned that this airplane had been hijacked.  Had the fighters been notified in a more timely fashion they would have launched and intercepted NW188.  Those fighter planes were armed and they do have the authority these days to shoot down an airliner they suspect has been hijacked.

If NW188 had been intercepted, I just wonder if the flight crew would have looked up from their laptops long enough to even notice the F16's flying in close formation next to them.   ::unbelieveable::

In the end, these fellas got what they deserved.  I feel bad for them, but man they really Screwed the Pooch that night!

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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2009, 04:27:10 PM »
its a scary thought if the fighters did have to fire on the airliner, There have been a few intercepts by the F3 Tornados from the R.A.F base near me to escort airliners in trouble recently and they are scrambled with out any delay since Leuchars is always on QRA due to Russian Bears entering British airspace.
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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2009, 09:30:37 PM »
NWA Cockpit   ::rofl::
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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2009, 11:05:13 AM »
lol thats good, where can I get a set up like that?
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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2009, 05:18:54 AM »
that sure explains a few things....  ;D
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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2009, 03:46:55 PM »
After studying that cockpit layout for a while, I have determined that I will fly the right seat.

Now, how can I get a large enough print to hang at work <GRIN>.

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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2009, 08:35:58 PM »
After studying that cockpit layout for a while, I have determined that I will fly the right seat.

Now, how can I get a large enough print to hang at work <GRIN>.

Then perhaps you can explain to us the reason for the row of things tacked up along the right side of the instrument panel?   ::eek:: ::unbelieveable::   ::drinking::

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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2009, 10:43:04 PM »
After studying that cockpit layout for a while, I have determined that I will fly the right seat.

Now, how can I get a large enough print to hang at work <GRIN>.

Then perhaps you can explain to us the reason for the row of things tacked up along the right side of the instrument panel?   ::eek:: ::unbelieveable::   ::drinking::

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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2009, 09:19:30 PM »
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What do you think took an hour and a half?

TMI dude!!!!!  TMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2009, 11:33:24 AM »
I'll take the left seat.........since that has the gun sight  ;D
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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2009, 03:42:05 PM »
I'll take the left seat.........since that has the gun sight  ;D
Even if the right seat is getting all the 'Action'?   ::whistle:: ::drinking:: ;D
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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2009, 09:21:30 PM »
but it has BEER!!! besides you would be able to cross take all that lot onto the spare screens anyway and I would rather take the gun sight since I'm a qualified hanger pilot.  Got A+++++ at making gun/cannon and engine noises in my final test and a A++ at flicking switches and saying "Too close for missles going to guns" and "Lined up on target bomb doors open..........bombs gone lets go home for bacon and eggs".  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2009, 07:51:28 PM »
Someone was not impressed.. ::whistle:: ::drinking::

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Re: Fly Delta-Northwest!!! Get an extra 150 miles on your trip!!!
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2009, 08:38:07 AM »
Had that film not that long ago, Downfall is brilliant.  but that clip was good.
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