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Offline Roland

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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2006, 06:03:12 AM »
Gentlemen, please! Don’t let us get down to that point as so many other forums have. To bite each other on the worst possible way due to the anonymity here. Everybody has his point and should have it. And Jim, please stay here. You are one of the reasons why I turn into this forum. ;D The main reason to stay tuned is the fun we have here and that we could avoid the neck biting arguments until to this point. So please don’t let us start with it here.

To all friends here in this forum: please calm down, lets get back to the relaxed mode we had. Many thanks for your cooperation! |:)\ (And as far as I understand Mike’s question about buying a C172 is answered to the full extend. ;))
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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #61 on: May 17, 2006, 09:37:56 AM »
I will second that sentiment, Roland.

Come on everyone.... I understand how things can get, but let's all remain respectful of each other so we can keep sharing insights and humor in the spirit of commeradierie.

Okay?  Shake hands and all and agree to disagree respectfully of each other in the future?  I would hate to have the board tarnished by ill sentiments.

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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #62 on: May 17, 2006, 03:15:05 PM »
Gentlemen... Gentlemen... There's no fighting in the war room... ;D ;D ;D

Sorry if my post came across as argumentative.  Skyking is entitled to his opinion, as am I, and everyone else in this thread.

I think Mike's a big boy and will be able to make the choice as to what will fit his needs best. 

Sleek <-------- feeling all "touchy/feely" this morning... ;D  |:)\
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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #63 on: May 17, 2006, 03:50:14 PM »
Gentlemen... Gentlemen... There's no fighting in the war room... ;D ;D ;D

Sorry if my post came across as argumentative.  Skyking is entitled to his opinion, as am I, and everyone else in this thread.

I think Mike's a big boy and will be able to make the choice as to what will fit his needs best. 

Sleek <-------- feeling all "touchy/feely" this morning... ;D  |:)\

Naw, it has nothing to do with you, Sleek. There was a post I responded to which is removed now and everything is ok again.  ;D
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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #64 on: May 17, 2006, 06:46:55 PM »
Yeah there is a post missing now.
I still stand by my post and I still appreciate your post Sleek! No need to apologize.
I even agreed with the removed post but the poster himself decided to remove it...

Quite a controversy though, huh?!
It's funny how pilots get so worked up when it comes to planes and which ones they like.
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It reminds me of the strip we had in the book about Chuck arguing with the Long Ranger pilot about which helicopter is better... ;)

Good times, good times,...
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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #65 on: May 17, 2006, 10:39:27 PM »
OH OH and oh rats,
I just got here and in looking at this thread I think I've found a former boyfriend, but then maybe not---If it IS you dear, I see your EGO is still intact!

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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #66 on: May 18, 2006, 03:54:21 AM »
Way to put it in perspective Skygal!!
I think we needed that!



Uhm....uh-oh. I hope you weren't talking about me though... :-[
now I am a little nervous....
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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #67 on: May 18, 2006, 04:13:01 AM »
Can't we all just get along?   :'(
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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #68 on: May 24, 2006, 02:25:25 AM »
OH OH and oh rats,
I just got here and in looking at this thread I think I've found a former boyfriend, but then maybe not---If it IS you dear, I see your EGO is still intact!

Leggo my ego!

Of course, now there are half a dozen guys in here wondering just which of us is the guilty party.

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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #69 on: June 04, 2006, 01:28:05 AM »
DON’T GET A 172RG!!!!  Not worth it. Maintenance sucks on them and yet they are still used as the primary commercial pilot trainer. They have a lower useful load than a 172 fixed gear 2 people full fuel your at gross. Performance wise they are crappy. They drop like a rock in the dirty configuration and on hot days they drag there butt (way underpowered).

If you want a really good high wing airplane that has retractable gear and cruises get a Cessna 210. They can haul a ton of gear or people. Try and get one with the continental 550 engine and you will cook over the ground (150kt easy). Doesn’t have to be the pressurized kind but it’s an option and more expensive. I would dare to say they are as great as a 310 only with 3 differences. 20 knots slower than the old 310, only 1 engine to worry about maintenance and it sips the gas, slightly lower useful load by maybe 50lb. Other than that they are great!

I have time in both aircraft. Would love to own a 210 but you couldn’t pay me to keep a 172RG.


You know that feelin' you get in the pit of your stomache when you hear about a crash/emergency landing involving an airplane with your fingerprints under the cowl?
We had a Cutlass RG land gear-up only a few hours after I had the LG actuators out for inspection. Scraped up the belly a little, prop strike... My heart fluttered for a day or so until word got back that the pilot had merely forgotten to extend the gear. The warning buzzer was working for the inspection, and later it tested ok, so eventually pilot error was settled on.
The shop manager had to inspect my working area, and though he didn't inventory 'em, told me to make sure all my tools were there.
Another thing that sucked about it: after all that work on the 500 hr actuator inspection, had to do it all over again.
There was another incident on our other RG, where the actuator end of the gear leg simply broke. This time, they were flying dual and the instructor was able to keep his wits about him, reaching outside with his foot to pull the gear down and locked.
Come to think of it, the RGs gave us a LOT more trouble than our fixed gear models. The pilots appreciated it, but didn't have to worry about the maint. costs.

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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #70 on: June 04, 2006, 05:53:28 PM »
Hy!
C172 is not bad, but what's about a SR22, I can't get out of my mind this plane!!!! ;) ;)
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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #71 on: June 04, 2006, 08:06:30 PM »
Hy!
C172 is not bad, but what's about a SR22, I can't get out of my mind this plane!!!! ;) ;)

If you can find one for me for $40k to $60k I'll take it!

Does anybody know anything about the RV homebuilt series??



@velojym:
I know the feeling. Had 2 helicopters crash that I signed off on last. Both pilot errors, but the time between the crash and when they find out what happened...not my favorite... :-\
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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #72 on: June 04, 2006, 08:32:27 PM »
If you can find one for me for $40k to $60k I'll take it!

try their site. they have a pre owned section. give a call. maybe it's your lucky day!!!  |:)\

.......I sometimes read tooooo fast. sorry to hear that velojym.  it must not be easy....
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I give that landing a 9 . . . on the Richter scale.

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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #73 on: June 04, 2006, 08:51:20 PM »
@ velojym: sorry to red that. I’ve been in that road too many times. Once there was a fatal accident. That was not only one night I could not sleep well. After all it was absolutely not my fault. But it took time to find out. It was a fault by the manufacturer. A big one. And this people tried everything to get rid of that problem. The would not care if an engineer in Austria goes to jail as long as they could keep the problem away. Hard time those.
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Re: Thinking of buying a C-172...
« Reply #74 on: June 04, 2006, 09:11:36 PM »
Hy!
C172 is not bad, but what's about a SR22, I can't get out of my mind this plane!!!! ;) ;)

If you can find one for me for $40k to $60k I'll take it!

Does anybody know anything about the RV homebuilt series??



@velojym:
I know the feeling. Had 2 helicopters crash that I signed off on last. Both pilot errors, but the time between the crash and when they find out what happened...not my favorite... :-\


Thanks. Though I knew the pilot walked away (and we fixed the plane), I still missed a couple meals.


I know a few guys who built RV-6s, and they seem to love 'em. They go together very much like my CH801, and I understand the performance is very good, as is their economy.
Chuck may have to try one. ;)