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Offline Ralph432

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Brooders vs. Extroverts
« on: July 20, 2009, 08:05:04 PM »
Found this article in the latest Air & Space mag:

The thing is, helicopters are different from airplanes. An airplane by its nature wants to fly and, if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces and controls working in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in the delicate balance, the helicopter stops flying immediately and disastrously. There is no such thing as a gliding helicopter.

This is why a helicopter pilot is so different a being from an airplane pilot, and why in general, airplane pilots are open,. clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts, and helicopter pilots are brooders, introspective anticipators of trouble. They know it anything bad has not happened, it is about to.

Harry Reasoner
Approach Magazine, November 1973

Is it still true?

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Re: Brooders vs. Extroverts
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2009, 09:05:39 PM »
Helicopter pilots are a distinct segment of the general population.
 
In addition to flying skills, Helicopter pilots are selected for their personalities and for a distinct "pilot persona." These characteristics make them safer Helicopter pilots.
Helicopter pilots tend to be physically and mentally healthy. Helicopter pilots tend to be "reality based," because by the very nature of their work they are constantly testing reality. There are those, however who would dispute this claim.
Helicopter pilots tend to be self-sufficient and may have difficulty functioning in team situations without CRM and other training. They have difficulty trusting anyone to do the job as well as they can. Helicopter pilots tend to be suspicious, even a little paranoid. In moderation, this quality serves them well within their environment and is, in fact, a quality that managements look for in the pilot personality. Outside the cockpit, this quality shows up in the tendency of many Helicopter pilots to set two or three alarm clocks-- even though he or she may generally wake up before any of the alarms go off. The suspicious/paranoid tendency also affects the way Helicopter pilots function in their private lives, as well.
Helicopter pilots tend to be intelligent but are typically not intellectually oriented. They like "toys"-- boats, cars, motorcycles, big watches, etc. They are good at taking things apart, if not putting them back together. Helicopter pilots are concrete, practical, linear thinkers rather than abstract, philosophical, or theoretical. On a scale that ranges from analytically oriented to emotionally oriented, Helicopter pilots tend to be toward the analytical end. They are extremely reality- and goal-oriented. They like lists showing concrete problems, not talking about them. This goal orientation tends towards the short term as opposed to the long term. Helicopter pilots are bimodal: on/off, black/white, good/bad, safe/unsafe, regulations/non-regulations.
Helicopter pilots are inclined to modify their environment rather than their own behavior. Helicopter pilots need excitement; a 9-to-5 job would drive most helicopter pilots to distraction. Helicopter pilots are competitive, being driven by a need to achieve, and don't handle failure particularly well. Helicopter pilots have a low tolerance for personal imperfection, and long memories of perceived injustices.
Helicopter pilots tend to be scanners, drawing conclusions rapidly about situational facts. Helicopter pilots scan people as if they were instruments; they draw conclusions at a glance rather than relying on long and emotion-laden converstaions.
Helicopter pilots avoid introspection and have difficulty revealing, expressing, or even recognizing their feelings. When they do experience unwanted feelings, they tend to mask them, sometimes with humor or even anger. Being unemotional helps Helicopter pilots deal with crises, but can make them insensitive toward the feelings of others. The spouses and children of Helicopter pilots frequently complain that the pilot has difficulty expressing complex human emotions toward them.
This emotional "block" can create difficulty communicating. How many incidents or accidents have occurred due to poor communications? The vast majority of Professional Standards cases will be caused by poor communication.
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Re: Brooders vs. Extroverts
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 08:44:46 PM »
Wow. You put a lot of thought into this reply. I'll bet it's something you have thought for some time. Your answer explains my relationship with my son. He flies helicopters and I fly fixed wing. No problems but we don't communicate very well. Oh well...

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Re: Brooders vs. Extroverts
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 09:10:52 PM »
Wow. You put a lot of thought into this reply. I'll bet it's something you have thought for some time. Your answer explains my relationship with my son. He flies helicopters and I fly fixed wing. No problems but we don't communicate very well. Oh well...

I did not write the piece---I was given it some years ago after being part of a study by Stanford medical students. They were trying to create a psychological test that would be given to students to help identify which careers they may be suited towards. I am always amazed at how close this matches my lifestyle and personaility... Kinda scary really.
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Re: Brooders vs. Extroverts
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 03:30:18 PM »
Wow. You put a lot of thought into this reply. I'll bet it's something you have thought for some time. Your answer explains my relationship with my son. He flies helicopters and I fly fixed wing. No problems but we don't communicate very well. Oh well...

I did not write the piece---I was given it some years ago after being part of a study by Stanford medical students. They were trying to create a psychological test that would be given to students to help identify which careers they may be suited towards. I am always amazed at how close this matches my lifestyle and personaility... Kinda scary really.

Whew!  What a relief!  I was worried about you G-Man, until I read this.   ::sweat::  I was beginning to think that if you actually had written that piece I would have to re-classify you as a True Thinker of All Things Human.   ::thinking::  I am so glad to find out that this is NOT the case!  Hehe.   ::drinking::

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Re: Brooders vs. Extroverts
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2009, 03:35:05 PM »
Wow. You put a lot of thought into this reply. I'll bet it's something you have thought for some time. Your answer explains my relationship with my son. He flies helicopters and I fly fixed wing. No problems but we don't communicate very well. Oh well...

I did not write the piece---I was given it some years ago after being part of a study by Stanford medical students. They were trying to create a psychological test that would be given to students to help identify which careers they may be suited towards. I am always amazed at how close this matches my lifestyle and personaility... Kinda scary really.

BTW...  What the heck were you doing hanging out with a bunch of medical students from Stanford?  Other than partying, I mean...   ::whistle:: ::drinking::
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Re: Brooders vs. Extroverts
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 05:31:13 PM »
BTW...  What the heck were you doing hanging out with a bunch of medical students from Stanford?  Other than partying, I mean...   ::whistle:: ::drinking::

Not partying thats for sure... Back in the early 90's I flew for KRON, (the San Francisco NBC station), and they asked the station if they could "analyse" their pilot for their survey.

I have picked up some others along the way.....


"The average helicopter pilot, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feeling as love, affection, intimacy and caring. These feelings just do not involve anyone else."


Helicopter pilots are usually first-born, or only sons. In the case of many female aviators, they took the place of the son that never was. All seven of the original Mercury astronauts were first-born sons. Twenty-one of the first twenty-three astronauts to make space flights were first born son. If the aviator is not the first born, he (she) is the functional equivalent due to some unacceptable quality of the chronologically first born.  Regardless of gender: • Adventurous • Courageous • Skillful • Competent • Master of complex tasks • Self-confident be easygoing • Unusually close to father (who is often a pilot himself) • Little desire for psychological insight • Practical logician • Heterosexual (Female Helicopter pilots are more like male Helicopter pilots than they are like females in the general population) • Controller (Male Helicopter pilots usually also marry first born, controlling woman) • Extremely physically and psychologically healthy • Alloplastic (Rather change environment than self) • Self-Sufficient • Short-term goals preferred over long-range planning • High achievement needs • Inflexible • Seeks out novelty and responsibility • Direct • Intelligent (Average pilot IQ equals 125, placing them in the 95th percentile for intelligence superior range) • Tends be non-intellectually orientated • Energetic • Low tolerance for imperfections  In summary, flying satisfies their need for achievement, individual initiative, novelty, excitement, and responsibility. It is not known if the characteristics peculiar to the pilot are required for the task, or if the job attracts people with these traits, or if both factors are operative. The generalizations about Helicopter pilots may also be true of other professions (particularly first born finding).  The difference between a successful aviator and the aviator who fails is often slight. Even when a pilot “fails” there is likely to be an absence of underlying psychopathology.
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Re: Brooders vs. Extroverts
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 06:28:39 PM »
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and they asked the station if they could "analyse" their pilot for their survey.

EGADS!!!  You mean you actually let them analyse you without a Court Order from a Judge?!?!?   ::eek:: ::unbelieveable:: ::eek:: ::unbelieveable:: ::eek:: ::unbelieveable::

Talk about living dangerously!   :o

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Re: Brooders vs. Extroverts
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2009, 09:01:28 PM »
You mean pilots are human and have feelings like the rest of us?!?! :o
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Re: Brooders vs. Extroverts
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2009, 03:32:08 AM »
Oddy, Oddy, Oddy!!!!!     ::banghead::

WOT have you been drinking??   ::silly::

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Re: Brooders vs. Extroverts
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2009, 08:11:35 AM »
HEH HEH HEH nothing yet S'Mom off out celebrating tonight
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