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You’re flying long-haul in economy-class for 20 hours, non-stop.  If you take the blue pill, you’ll fly in a conventional cabin; if you take the red pill, you’ll fly in a cabin like the one in the article.  This is a choice I leave to you.

The Blue Pill (A Conventional Cabin)
3 (42.9%)
The Red Pill (The Sleeper Cabin)
4 (57.1%)

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Author Topic: New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled  (Read 11735 times)

Offline Morpheus

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Re: New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2008, 09:39:45 AM »
Problem is that is and A380. … I just doubt it would be economical for a smaller aircraft.


I think that’s actually more of an advantage. Wide-bodies, like the A380, are the planes that travel the longest routes, which is precisely where more comfort is needed. 

Its already bigger and most of the set ups have the regular seats having a lot more ammenities then a conventional airliner set up. 


True, it has more amenities and roomier seats than other planes, but it doesn’t come close to fully-reclining seats in coach.

But I'm no engineer and only really care about the seats in the front.

Hehe, well, the seats in the front are already as good as can be; too bad they cost an arm and a leg!

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Re: New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2008, 07:51:05 AM »
Problem is that is and A380. … I just doubt it would be economical for a smaller aircraft.


I think that’s actually more of an advantage. Wide-bodies, like the A380, are the planes that travel the longest routes, which is precisely where more comfort is needed. 

Its already bigger and most of the set ups have the regular seats having a lot more ammenities then a conventional airliner set up. 


True, it has more amenities and roomier seats than other planes, but it doesn’t come close to fully-reclining seats in coach.

But I'm no engineer and only really care about the seats in the front.

Hehe, well, the seats in the front are already as good as can be; too bad they cost an arm and a leg!
Chukar's whole idea is to get PAID to sit up front  |:)\ |:)\

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Re: New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2008, 05:31:54 PM »
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Chukar's whole idea is to get PAID to sit up front   

Yes, but not to be paid PEANUTS to sit up front!   ::banghead:: ::complaining:
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Re: New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2008, 12:35:49 AM »
I can't believe three people have voted for the blue pill... 

I guess that, if there was a third choice with a seat made of nails, it would be the winner ::loony::


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Re: New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2008, 07:02:39 AM »
well morpheus if the bed of nails could cure some of my pains through acupuncutre i would vote for it.
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Re: New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2008, 07:32:56 AM »
Good point there, Oddball  ::thinking::

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Re: New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2008, 12:14:30 PM »
I can't believe three people have voted for the blue pill... 

I guess that, if there was a third choice with a seat made of nails, it would be the winner ::loony::



let's say the airlines have done such thing, i prefer sleeping then one of the next things happens:
1.falling of that ladder,break my neck.
2.surviving the ladder,fall of with the whole thing down at the guy sleeping under me.
3.hearing that screaming guy that fell of the ladder and broke his neck.
4.getting killed by the the guy above me.

and the nails seat not such a bad idea, think about the weight of it!  :P
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Re: New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2008, 08:27:36 PM »
let's say the airlines have done such thing, i prefer sleeping then one of the next things happens:
1.falling of that ladder,break my neck.
2.surviving the ladder,fall of with the whole thing down at the guy sleeping under me.
3.hearing that screaming guy that fell of the ladder and broke his neck.
4.getting killed by the the guy above me.

and the nails seat not such a bad idea, think about the weight of it!  :P

Okay. ::banghead:: 

In conventional cabin layouts, passengers have the luggage bins right on top of their heads; those bins are literally hanging from the cabin ceiling, full of heavy baggage.  Now, I don’t hear of many incidents in which a luggage bin—or luggage, for that matter—fell on top of someone’s head, breaking their neck. 
::knockedout::

There’s something called engineering, that keeps bridges from falling down or tunnels from caving in; however, it’s not a flawless art and, sometimes, things do go wrong.  ::unbelieveable::

Just one question: How have you managed to avoid ladders all your life? ???

You have to let it all go—fear, doubt and disbelief.  Free your mind.
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Re: New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2008, 09:41:49 PM »
Don't take me as an engineer, i have nothing to do with engineering or physics,i never learned any of these or something related, I'm only thinking with my logic,which can be flawed (and that's wouldn't surprise anyone),but as i see it,the luggage is spread enough to have less pressure, and I'm pretty sure there are some enforcement within the "floor" of it.

As for the ladder,just look at it,the regular home-ladder "shelves" are connected in TWO points,have a special form to less the bending,while the one in the sketch have only ONE connection,which looks like could be rotated with enough force,and if it's not made with a hard material and have some enforcement below it, it's gonna bend down and break after a while.

Woo! no spell check needed!
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Re: New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2008, 10:18:52 PM »
Don't take me as an engineer, i have nothing to do with engineering or physics,i never learned any of these or something related, I'm only thinking with my logic,which can be flawed (and that's wouldn't surprise anyone),but as i see it,the luggage is spread enough to have less pressure, and I'm pretty sure there are some enforcement within the "floor" of it.

 |:)\

As for the ladder,just look at it,the regular home-ladder "shelves" are connected in TWO points,have a special form to less the bending,while the one in the sketch have only ONE connection,which looks like could be rotated with enough force,and if it's not made with a hard material and have some enforcement below it, it's gonna bend down and break after a while.

Woo! no spell check needed!

As you rightly point out, my friend, it's a SKETCH; i.e. not the real thing.  In my opinion, the best way to solve this would be for the stairs to be integrated to the luggage bin, as well as the module's structure; that way, they would have more support points.  ::thinking::
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Re: New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2008, 12:20:33 AM »
Hey didn't that already exist in the fifties. I could swear the early airlines offered sleeper accomidations.

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Re: New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2008, 05:29:46 AM »
Hey didn't that already exist in the fifties. I could swear the early airlines offered sleeper accomidations.

Yes, and even earlier than the fifties.  The idea of adding tiers in a passenger cabin dates back to the 1930s; the DC-3 actually began as a sleeper plane named the Douglas Sleeper Transport (DST).  The DST was popular among long-haul air travelers; but, it was ultimately canceled because passenger capacity decreased significantly.  While a DST could carry 14 to 16 passengers, a DC-3—the DST’s regular seating counterpart—had a standard capacity of between 21 and 28 passengers, with a maximum capacity of 32 passengers. 

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