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« Reply #75 on: March 19, 2006, 03:38:43 AM »
This morning I was running late to work, so I text messaged my boss letting him know I would be a few minutes late. And after I stopped at 7-11 for a coffee (yes even when I run late I GOTTA stop for coffee!) I sent another text... "Maverick is supersonic. I'll be there in 30sec!" When he saw me, he started cracking up.  :D

Awesome! You're the kind of aviation nerd we're looking for for the forum. Well done Callisto!!

Thanks Mike! I’m glad I was bored at work one day and found you guys! What better home would an aviation nerd have!  ;D

I was under the assumption that Goose broke his neck. Thinking he hit the canopy because it didn't break away because there was no rush of air blowing the canopy off. In a forward flying ejection the canopy would be ripped off due to the air rushing in. The wind wasn’t rushing in because of the flat spin

How fast could some one drown? Maverick got to him quick enough... But who's to say? We are dealing with Movie Time… not normal time.

Oh.. and the green "ink" in the water, I figured it was to locate the pilots quicker. But I heard it was a shark repelent too? Any one know if that's true?
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« Reply #76 on: March 19, 2006, 04:52:50 AM »
You know how in movies helicopters always start up and are airborne within 10 seconds or less. I think they just cut out the part where they both splashed into the water, then Maverick tried to figure out where his buddy is who I am sure didn't land right next to him, had to swim over to him and by that time a person can easily drown.

God! Listen to me! I am such an aviation nerd.... he he :D

Actually, have any of you ever seen anybody drown? I have. It can happen pretty quick actually...

I can ask about the green dye. Some of my friends used to be NAVY seals. If you ever get your hands on that stuff, don't play with it. Those same guys played around one day at a campfire showing a couple of little kids how this stuff works by using just a little dye... Next morning they got woken up by a hazmat team because some scared lady thought the pond had nuclear waste in it and they got in trouble (I guess the lady saw too many "Simpsons" episodes...)

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« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2006, 09:51:29 AM »
I was a pilot long before Top Gun came along, and always figured that the only reason to buy it is for the flying scenes.

This movie was NOT WORTH ART SCHOLL'S LIFE.


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« Reply #78 on: March 19, 2006, 10:05:16 AM »
You know how in movies helicopters always start up and are airborne within 10 seconds or less. I think they just cut out the part where they both splashed into the water, then Maverick tried to figure out where his buddy is who I am sure didn't land right next to him, had to swim over to him and by that time a person can easily drown.

God! Listen to me! I am such an aviation nerd.... he he :D

Actually, have any of you ever seen anybody drown? I have. It can happen pretty quick actually...

I can ask about the green dye. Some of my friends used to be NAVY seals. If you ever get your hands on that stuff, don't play with it. Those same guys played around one day at a campfire showing a couple of little kids how this stuff works by using just a little dye... Next morning they got woken up by a hazmat team because some scared lady thought the pond had nuclear waste in it and they got in trouble (I guess the lady saw too many "Simpsons" episodes...)

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...with friends like this... no wonder I make cartoons !!!

You're overanalyzing a moving comic book.  ;)

The first real joke is how the canopy could have been there in the first place.  During the eject sequence, the canopy is flang into a galaxy far, far away well before the seats fire.  The absolute last place the thing would be is hovering over the cockpit.

The second joke is how running into the canopy would be a problem, when the Martin-Baker egress system used in the F-14 Flying Turkey is designed to GO THROUGH a canopy which fails to eject (and in some aircraft, the canopy isn't ejected at all, there is just a fracturing charge that breaks up the plastic before the seat goes through it).

The helicopter was there so soon because they had a copy of the script!

The packet is both marker dye and shark repellent.  It tastes like someone else's spit, but is non-toxic.  Considering the stuff that sharks have been known to eat, I don't think it would slow one down much.


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« Reply #79 on: March 19, 2006, 12:35:05 PM »
I guess Top Gun is for you guys as Cliffhanger is for me. When you mountaineer the way I do, you notice 'hey, he actually has LESS equipment on his belt than in the previous part of that same conversation' and a second later that same belt is LOADED with shiny, unused, expensive stuff. Not to mention the freakingly unbelieveable climbing techniques.
I don't think they intended to shoot an aviation movie, but just an action flick with aviation bits 'n culture in it. Same with Cliffhanger (or Backdraft). But it's always good for me to witness some mountains, or climbing action, or people getting shot. (did I just said that out loud?)

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« Reply #80 on: March 19, 2006, 03:58:43 PM »
Yoshida, I got to watch the aerial scenes in Cliffhanger being shot, from the ground of course... ;D

They did the air to air stuff over Southwestern Colorado.  I was working on the line one Saturday and got to watch a DC-9 and Jetstar chase the B-25 camera ship all over the place.  It was pretty cool.

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« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2006, 07:32:25 PM »

. . . You're overanalyzing a moving comic book.  ;) . . .

. . . The helicopter was there so soon because they had a copy of the script! . . .


Thanks for clearing up the shark repellant thing. I had no idea.

I like tyour line The helicopter was there so soon because they had a copy of the script! HA HA!
I will use that next time!!

And of course I am overanalyzing the movie!!! ;D It's fun!

Another good one to overanalyze is "Fire Storm" for wildland firefighters. HA HA That one is realisitc as well!
But as we said before in this already very long thread, it's all about the feeling you get from the movie and that you enjoy yourself. If you want realisitc, watch the history channel!!! ;)
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« Reply #82 on: March 20, 2006, 04:20:03 AM »
Fire Birds is another realistic movie.  Long on bad acting and jargon misuse and short on storyline.
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« Reply #83 on: March 20, 2006, 04:52:06 AM »
True that Gulf!
Wow, being a chopper jokey I was very disappointed. It doesn't even have that "good feeling" you get with Top Gun. With Top Gun I am willing to see past the flaws because it was just a great and entertaining movie....

But this thread was intended to be a tribute to the true classic movie Top Gun!!
How 'bout we start another thread about bad aviation movies: like "unfortunate mistakes in aviation movies"
or
"wow, that was a bad movie!"
or something, he he   ;)
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« Reply #84 on: March 20, 2006, 07:27:03 AM »

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Enjoy!

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« Reply #85 on: March 20, 2006, 10:37:21 AM »
OK just one comment and Ill go back into my shell:

Fighter pukes make movies,

Attack pilots make history!


And SAR pilots make pickups when fighter pukes and attack pilots can't keep the pointy end out of the weeds.


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« Reply #86 on: March 20, 2006, 10:55:04 AM »

They also said that Maverick not being able to reach the ejection handles and Goose having to do it for him is realistic because the pilot sits further away from the center of the flat-spinning plane and has therefore higher centrifugal forces acting on him than the RIO who sits closer to the center.

Well, maybe you guys knew all that already but I learned something last night!

Real aviators tighten their straps before ACM.

BTW, if you can't reach the overhead loops ("Primary Eject Sequence Initiation Lanyards") you reach down and yank the Alternate Eject Sequence Initiation Handle.  It doesn't give you the face-protective curtain, but you're still going to get your loud ride.  There is no place in the cockpit of a two-holer that you can't reach the loops and you can't reach the backup handle.

BTW again, the (vastly superior) ACES II seat doesn't have overhead loops or face curtain, it only has the arm-fire handle on the left side of the seat.  If you're in the seat, you can eject.


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« Reply #87 on: March 20, 2006, 11:41:25 AM »

Hey guys! Check this out:

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Enjoy!

Wow,
They sure tear up TOP GUN on this site----which matters not to me, I enjoyed the movie for what it was , fantasy!

I caught a couple (like throttle movement) during the the movie but I just chalk that up to artistic license.

You can rip up any movie if you are in involved in that particular field but that shouldn't take away from the essential essence of the endeavor which is to simply entertain us---if I want accuracy, I watch documentories.

So, on that basis, I give TOP GUN (TOPGUN) two thumbs up!  "Experts" bedamned.

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« Reply #88 on: March 20, 2006, 02:19:56 PM »
Yoshida, I got to watch the aerial scenes in Cliffhanger being shot, from the ground of course... ;D

They did the air to air stuff over Southwestern Colorado.  I was working on the line one Saturday and got to watch a DC-9 and Jetstar chase the B-25 camera ship all over the place.  It was pretty cool.
Oow that's true, it had some fancy flying in it as well. I don't wanna know about the mistakes in that, or with the helicopter scenes. All I wanted to point out is, if you watch a movie with baseball scenes from a baseball perspective you're bound to catch some errors. But they're there to make the story work.
Most important thing is that when you watch a movie, you should enjoy it because else, frankly, it's a waste of time. Common folks buy shit like a jetfighter flying upside down for way too long, but I can understand why you say 'man, that's ridiculous!' I know how you feel, from watching Vertical Limit. Everything to do with climbing in that movie has nothing to do with climbing at all. But who cares.

That doesn't take the fun out of discussing it all with some pro's or enthousiasts. ^_^


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« Reply #89 on: March 20, 2006, 05:11:53 PM »

Hey guys! Check this out:

http://www.moviemistakes.com/film1312

Enjoy!

Wow!
What blows me away is that there are people out there who actually have the time to look for this and then the time to point that stuff out and post it. Things like "the wine bottle keeps rotating" are totally lost on me. I'd never catch that in a million years (probably 'cause I don't care) ;)
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