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Offline Mike

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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2007, 12:52:02 AM »
Quote from: G-man on October 24, 2007, 12:34:54 AM
Me and LaFawnduh leave first thing in the morning to join Panaca Jane on the Harris Fire in San Diego. My mechanics will be burning the midnight oil to get her back in one peice...

Actually, "Panaca Jane" is in Kentucky of all places because they have fires over there too, but you'll see all her sisters!  ;)
I'll be down there by Friday the latest! (Nobu HAS to be back, he's going on vacation, the lucky bastard)
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2007, 06:55:31 PM »
Best of luck to all of you down in SoCal. |:)\ we'll be looking for pics :) hope the winds die down for you a bit.
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2007, 10:04:50 PM »
FEMA is the bunch who will gladly turn away private help.
After Katrina, there were a bunch of EAA flyers who were shuttling supplies in, while tractor-trailer rigs of ice and other stuff were sent away by FEMA and their roadside goombas.
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2007, 02:39:21 AM »
Quote from: G-man on October 23, 2007, 09:08:11 PM
Quote from: Frank N. O. on October 23, 2007, 07:37:30 PM

And now for the obligatory dumb question: What's FEMA? It's probably not related to SEMA (car-show).

Frank

FEMA is a government organisation that comes in after disasters to help "re-build"..It stands for "Find Every Mexican Available". ::whistle::

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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2007, 05:25:35 AM »
Here are some pics, I am right on the border by Tecate, Barret lake and Potrero areas on the Harris fire. The structures lost were all in mountainous areas as opposed to home close together.

Harris/Lyons Vally Helibase:



LaFawnduh



And the news reported we were grounded---right....This was during a slop over that started running towards the helibase---at one point we had upto 9 medium helicopters in a daisy chain....







Tanker drop



One lucky home-owner:



"Timothy"



Burnt home:



Someone had a sense of humor--telling the military to use pink paint for visibilty....



And finally---here is what San Diego Sheriff pilots ride on when the helicopters are fighting fires....

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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2007, 06:29:12 AM »
Dang, G-Man!  You're near Tecate?  I just drove past you this evening returning my co-pilot to San Diego and back.  If you weren't busy and if I didn't have family matters to attend to, I'd drive out to say hello this weekend.  Afterall, I'm just down the hill to the east in the Imperial Valley. ::eek::

Quick question:  That appears to be a Martin Mars.  Might you know which one it is, and where are they mooring it???  That is an awsome plane, and I would love to have a closer look at it!

Now gimme a few minutes, and I'll post some pics of what I saw of the fires these past couple days from up above.  I think about all you guys everytime I pass overhead...
« Last Edit: October 27, 2007, 06:52:43 AM by Rooster Cruiser »
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2007, 07:02:30 AM »
The major winds that fanned the flames of all these fires died down a few days ago.  However, the fires are still there, and the pall of smoke from them is lingering over one of the largest population areas in the United States.

Smoke 1:  Yesterday (Oct 25) I needed to fly into John Wayne Airport in Orange County, CA.  When I got near, the smoke was so thick I had to get an IFR clearance and shoot an ILS approach into SNA.  I took this picture of what is locally called Saddleback mountain, which is the largest peak of the Santa Ana mountains, gloomily looming through all the smoke.

Smoke 2:  Being vectored to final approach course at SNA.  I could barely see the ground, even though surface visibility was being reported as 4 miles.  I could see way farther than that in this pic, but I certainly couldn't see very many landmarks!

Smoke 3:  After departing SNA and getting back up on top of the smoke at 9000ft, I took this pic of the plume of smoke rising above the Santa Ana mountains.
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2007, 07:29:04 AM »
I took these on Oct 26 in the afternoon...

Smoke 4:  Fire threatens the world famous Palomar Observatory, including the Hale Telescope which is encased in the biggest dome visible in this pic.

Smoke 6:  An unidentified airliner flies northeast over Mount San Jacinto, a.k.a. Mount Baldy to the locals of Ontario, CA

Smoke 7:  Another view of a smoke-shrouded Mt San Jacinto
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2007, 02:11:32 PM »
HEY!, When did they bring the Martin mars down---I'd love to see that--wondering where they could have been scooping?
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2007, 12:18:07 AM »
From the tanker website, it sounds like one Mars is down in the states, and is in Lake Elsinore....

Hope you have your Halloween outfit all picked out..... 

is it true you're dressing up as an AIR ATTACK PILOT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?     ::rofl::

teeeeeeeeeee   heeeeeeeeeeeeee................................   ::whistle::
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2007, 11:50:11 AM »
Quote from: TheSoccerMom on October 29, 2007, 12:18:07 AM
From the tanker website, it sounds like one Mars is down in the states, and is in Lake Elsinore....

Hope you have your Halloween outfit all picked out..... 

is it true you're dressing up as an AIR ATTACK PILOT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?     ::rofl::

teeeeeeeeeee   heeeeeeeeeeeeee................................   ::whistle::
Nope--gained a couple of pounds so I'm thinking Jaba the Hut ;D ::rofl::
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2007, 04:42:22 AM »
I've read some news about a fake FEMA press conference and now someone has lost their job, is that directly related to the fires or something else?
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/briefing-costs-fema-spokesman-new-job/20071029163509990001

Frank

P.S. I actually thought that plane in one of the pictures was a Hercules, man am I embaressed since I've never heard of one being a firebomber in the first place, but I just looked at the tail and proportions.
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2007, 02:06:32 PM »
Actually Frank, the C130 Hercules or its civilian equivilant, the L188(?) have been used extensively in firefighting.  Hawkins and Powers in Greybull Wyoming had one that had a spectacular crash on video some years ago.

Only four Martin Mars aircraft were ever built.  They are flying boats with no landing gear, and they were built for the US Navy during WWII by the Glenn L Martin aircraft company.  They were the largest production flying boats ever built.  The Navy used them primarily to run high priority parts between the mainland US and Pearl Harbor naval station in Hawaii during the war.  Only two of them are currently operated by the Coulson Flying Tankers company in British Columbia. http://www.martinmars.com/  Those two are the Phillipine Mars and Hawaii Mars.  Go to their website for more info.
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2007, 05:16:53 PM »
Quote from: Rooster Cruiser on October 30, 2007, 02:06:32 PM
L188(?)

L100. L188 is Electra if I am not mistaken.
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2007, 07:15:49 PM »
You're right Fabo.  I don't know what the civilian equivilant is called.  Maybe the L130?
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