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Offline RagDragger

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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2007, 01:24:43 AM »
Ok, typical day, let's see....
Right now I'm a one man band towing over college campuses, college football games and pro football games in Indiana and Ohio.  So the typical day goes something like this:
Wake up, smack alarm, then sleep for another 20 minutes.  Roll out of bed, put in contacts, wonder what city I'm in as I gather clothing out of my beat up suitcase to take a shower.  Finally remember I'm in ______.  Take hot shower, consider a shave, then figure, "Screw it, I'm a banner pilot, nobody cares."  Check weather on computer, no t-storms and VFR, cool.  Jump in rent-a-wreck and drive to airport.  Ponder what direction wind is and will be in 30 minutes.  Set banner up, fight tangled bridle lines for 20 minutes while local lineman/airport bum/occasional know-it-all quizzes me about airplane performance, tow speeds, "Do you take off with that thing?", etc.  Double check weather, get airplane fueled, check oil and get handheld radio set up in cockpit.  Hand prop airplane, climb into cockpit while engine pops, farts, coughs and backfires till the impulse coupling that still needs replacing finally gets out of the way and lets the engine start.  Strap self into cockpit, taxi to active runway and runup.  Realize the wind has shifted and I'm picking downwind, again.  Mutter curses to the weather gods under breath.  Takeoff, toss hook out, make banner pick attempt.  Miss.  Go around for another try, see that I've knocked the rope off the pick poles.   Swear bitterly.  Shoot another 20 minutes in the butt while I land, taxi to the banner, reset the rope, reset the hook, and take off again.  Make successful banner pick, make radio call "on the rag" and departing.  Fly to campus, circle for half an hour, then "keep moving around."  Circle campus, interchanges, malls, etc. for 4 hours while leg gets sore from holding in right rudder and arms tire from fighting the turbulence to keep level.  Grin uncontrollably 'cuz I'M A PILOT NOW, dude!    Have mild heart attack when aux tank runs dry 30 minutes early due to so much full throttle time climbing out of downdrafts and switch to main.  Fly back to airport, cut banner loose, cheer when it lands in the right place.  Land, tie down, guesstimate pick and drop times.  Text boss and tell him "Banner went, nothing bent. Later."  Drive out to banner, sock it up.  Go out to dinner, drink beer, chase college girls to little luck, go back to hotel alone.  Swear and fill out and fax in paperwork to boss.  Go to bed after late night Family Guy rerun.  Repeat 3-4 times, then move on to next city.  I love my job!             
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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2007, 03:34:29 PM »
AH YESSSS RAGDRAGGER,
By the time you're old and grizzled the tales of an average day will be tinted by the rose colored glasses of memory and you'll be able to regale novice aviators by the hour ::unbelieveable::
Thank your lucky stars that you are single---- I'm sure some sweetheart out there will come along and think your life is SOOOOOOO romantic that she'll want to share it--until the definition of "Gypsy Pilot" becomes clear--then of course, you will get to choose, her or aviation--I chose aviation and in retrospect, the alimony payments weren't that bad.
Here's the good part though, I haven't had to hear her say "I've got a headache" in 25 year and I still love to fly ::wave::

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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2007, 08:58:40 PM »
Single? How could you tell?   ;D Intend to remain that way and skip the whole divorce process.  Yes, I'm a selfish bastard, but I'm happy and I'm not tossing that away for anyone.  I'm fair about it though, any woman who gets beyond about 2 dates with me is informed, in no uncertain terms, that I've got a mistress.  She's got a funny name, she's kinda ugly, and she's the real jealous type.  And she'll always be the most important thing in my life.  Women are #2.  Maybe I'm nuts, but it seems like a good policy.   In the meantime, I'll have a lot of fun.  ::cowboy::     
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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2007, 02:50:49 AM »
Actually Ragdragger, if you ever think you might want to get married and don't want go through all that relationship crap and a divorce then just go out, find a woman you dispise, buy her a house and that will save you a lot of time ;D

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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2007, 05:32:34 AM »
Actually Ragdragger, if you ever think you might want to get married and don't want go through all that relationship crap and a divorce then just go out, find a woman you dispise, buy her a house and that will save you a lot of time ;D

Bin there--done it....  ::sick::  twice..   :-[  :-\
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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2007, 08:35:04 AM »
Actually Ragdragger, if you ever think you might want to get married and don't want go through all that relationship crap and a divorce then just go out, find a woman you dispise, buy her a house and that will save you a lot of time ;D

Pretty close to what a professor told a class I was in once...

"The next time I have an urge to get married I'm just going to find the person I hate the most in the world, buy them a house and be done with it."

He was just a little bitter.

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In a world that keeps on pushin' me around
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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2007, 06:37:36 PM »
I think that the first time I heard this quote it was attributed to either Ted Nugent or Tom Petty.   ::silly:: ::silly:: ::silly::


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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2007, 08:29:27 PM »
I think that the first time I heard this quote it was attributed to either Ted Nugent or Tom Petty.   ::silly:: ::silly:: ::silly::


ROCK ON!!! ::drinking:: ::drinking::

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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2007, 10:05:10 PM »
Well, since the fire season part of showing up at work has been so ably described here, maybe I'll give the scientists' version a shot.

In the off-season, I've been fortunate to do some work for varied aerospace - defense - research companies.  The contracts are pretty short, usually -- a week, to maybe 4 or 5 weeks. 

So...  first, we show up at the hotel lobby and meet with the clients.  Depending on the project, sometimes the weather is THE BIG deal.  One company simply cannot gather data if there is even ONE cloud in the sky.  So...  if the weather is acceptable, then we head for the airport.  Usually we're given a description of the area(s) to be flown...  then our job involves trying to figure out if this is even feasible, possible, legal, etc.  This can be a quick chore, or an enormous headache.  Usually phone calls to Center, or other ATC facilities are in order, and sometimes it involves HOURS of coordinating with the military to work in their airspace.  Faxing becomes a big deal here...  with our proposed routes, etc.  Papers fly back and forth....

All in all, I have been totally impressed with how well ATC, civil or military, works with us.  We have asked them for some seemingly insane things.  Sometimes, the projects are so large, and complicated, that we have formal briefings with the governing agencies.  This happens when the airspace is very busy and/or when we are just one of many aircraft taking part in an exercise.  Working in restricted areas almost always results in these larger briefings.  The biggest one I have been involved in was held in a college auditorium, doing an international cloud study.  There were hundreds of people in that one.  One other had such complicated airspace requirements, a special military liaison met with us every morning and told us EXACTLY where we could fly, and at EXACTLY what times.  (We had no vote on that one...).

Sometimes it takes only one phone call...  every job is different.  One client planned out a huge ocean survey but never thought to clear it with the Navy...  that took a lot of work but we did finally figure out their schedule and they let us into their areas when they were not super busy.  Of course, we get plenty of radio comments once the project starts, about how SLOW we are...  obviously, they are not too used to Minivans plodding along!   

Sometimes we go through all these contortions, and then the other a/c break down, and we have it all to ourselves!  That is a little funny, I have to admit. 

So...  once we finally get to the flying itself, we can be involved in flying straight lines..  long or short...  or circles....  or racetracks, etc.  We have all the scientists on board on the intercom, so as they read their data, they tell us to make minor corrections, etc.  Sometimes they change coordinates every 3 minutes, so fast fingers come in handy with the GPS units.  Other times we drone along in relative silence, listening to them discuss the headier concepts they are trying to establish.  The back of the airplane may have scanners, cameras, probes, lasers and/or radars installed...  and many, many floor-to-ceiling racks of computers.  Pitch angle can be a huge deal, and it can be a very trying thing to keep the airplane platform as still as absolutely possible.  Most clients don't like any roll in their data, and that is the hardest for their computers to correct for, so we may do rudder-only directional corrections.  One client requires cross-track errors of 8 feet or less...  you see what fun that is on a rough day.  Each one is different. 

Sometimes, one project's equipment is installed in the nose, and another, separate bunch of gear is installed in the aft of the Minivan.  That gets funny, trying to listen to two simultaneous projects going on, and making corrections for each of them, as need be.  It's cool, though, because the scientists are always funny and really easy to work with, so it gets pretty entertaining.  We fly with between 2 and 6 people, usually...  so, the conversations can get pretty silly by the end of the day, when everyone is getting cross-eyed and rummy. 

Once we get all the data they want, or we use up our good weather, or ATC's limits, we head back to the airport.  On landing, sometimes we hang out and wait while they check the data on their computers, to check the results.  Often, we take a short break, and go up again for another segment.  Sometimes, the data is so complicated, they have to analyze it overnight, so then we refuel, put the airplane to bed, and head to the hotel.  If it involves wacky airpsace, I try to call ATC and visit with them to make sure it went alright for them.  One of the hardest places we routinely fly is right off the ends of the runways at LAX!  I thought they were joking, the first time I heard that...   but, nope, that is one prime area for one certain company.  And, believe it or not, ATC there is incredible, and works with us to make it all happen.  I'm so impressed with the abilities of these people!!  But, after the relative isolation of fire season flying, it takes about a day for my heart rate to drop back down to normal on seeing a windshield that is ALWAYS full of airline aluminum.  And, it is...  ALWAYS full of airplanes.  I can hear the grey hair sprouting..... 

So...  some jobs are LOW altitude...  some at 25,000 feet...  some over the desert..   or, oceans....  in military areas, or not...   without a cloud in the sky, or trying hard to stay within the anvils of thunderstorms...  it's a great variety.  Which makes it all fun, and interesting!

I've probably left out big pieces here, but...  you'll have that with a pea brain like mine.  Often, we do SERIOUS debriefings over a few cold ones, and Pepe' (my trusty stuffed skunk) is always along.  He is very well-known to many clients now, and they always ask if he will be there, too.  He likes to ride along on the tops of the computer racks in the back of the airplane, and more than once, I have heard a frustrated scientist trying to troubleshoot computer glitches, muttering and asking Pepe "So..  what do you think?"

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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2007, 11:38:45 PM »
Oops, I already forgot -- some jobs are in daylight and some are 100% at night..  on one ocean job I ended up with the "night shift"...  and one desert project, also.  Fun, fun, fun!!!   :D
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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2007, 12:32:21 AM »
I guess I'll give it a shot.

Life as a flight instuctor.  Wake up, shower ,shave, and get to work on time.  Student shows up ten minutes late.  Brief student on plan for day, and then explain plan twice more, cause student isn't prepared or didn't understand.  Go fly and cheat death, accidents, and screaming at student whole flight.  Land, debrief and do same thing four or five times a day.

Also each student is foreign so every time you have to decipher a different accent and sometime a different form of english.  No time for lunch.  Do this all day.  End up with about a ten hour work day.  get paid for about seven of those.  Go home repeat next day.  Do this for a few months, then put in more time to do checkride paperwork.  Send student to checkride, get a pass a thank you, and no more student.  After students all pass, schedule empty till find more students.  Empty schedule means no pay.  But still love the job cause I am actually being paid to fly.

WOW I did that!

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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2007, 08:23:41 AM »
Wow, a ton of reading here, thankfully this forum unlike others have a feature to mark what posts you've read instead of just showing them as new for a certain time. I've been offline, totally, since saturday morning since I had a problem with a damaged part on my old computer motherboard and I was too afraid to start it again in case it ruined my hdd and/or it's content which I don't have a back-up off. Long and complicated story short then I now finally have the new parts (new motherboard, more/faster memory and a much stronger/newer/faster cpu (with a good cooler instead of the weak original one)). I've only just got it up and running and with internet security software installed but I can at least communicate now, although the sad message from my best fried about a two week hospital stay due to her heart-problems was less than happy news, although at elast she's still alive. I still gotta get my graphics-programs, media-players, flightsimulator, other games etc. installed but it's working and running stable so the biggest worry is over.

I'll read all the posts that've been made since I last checked, which for instance is every reply to this thread, and then get back to you  ::wave::

Frank
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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2007, 02:49:16 PM »
Ok, I finally got that read thrue and it gave me some good indications on how your jobs go. I must say though that the radio-skills needed for wildland fire-fighting jobs sounds really high, although I know that practice and knowing who and what you work cam help a long way.

After hearing about how many days/weeks many pilots are away from home I understand the idea about the hammock back in the Sea Duck ::rofl::

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Re: How's a normal workday as a pilot for you?
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2007, 06:02:54 PM »
I think that the first time I heard this quote it was attributed to either Ted Nugent or Tom Petty.   ::silly:: ::silly:: ::silly::


ROCK ON!!! ::drinking:: ::drinking::

It was Rod Stewart.....

I'll take your word for it, and I stand corrected.   ::drinking::
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