eever so fake that is...the flames would have engulfed the whole wings, thats where the fuel tanks are!
This brings up a question in my warped little mind... Why DO the put the fueltanks right on top of the engine? Can that be? ???
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Firegirl on January 28, 2006, 02:24:05 AM
Here's another picture............... I want your thoughts on this one! What the heck?!
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Post by: Mike on January 28, 2006, 04:39:38 AM
I am not sure if this is a real picture (but it can be, I've heard about these things before, usually in conjuction with an accident story...)
Coming from a guy who has flown helicopters professionally for 10 years now: I have to say I think this is a pretty dumb thing to do in a helicopter. One windgust and you're sucking the flag into your tailrotor...
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: FlyingBlind on January 28, 2006, 12:04:17 PM
About the first picture ,fake ,cause if the engine gets on fire (explodes) goodbye Wing and half of the plane ,as said before : the fuel tanks are ABOVE the engine. And about the second picture....i agree with Mike...Goodbye rotor and helicopter
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on January 28, 2006, 10:54:37 PM
Could it be a picture of a helicopter meshed with a picture of a skydiver attached to that flag?
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Post by: SkyKing on May 02, 2006, 07:59:33 PM
I found this on the internet. Is this the work of a computer nerd or did it really happen? Does anybody know?
If it's a real picture it definetly belongs here at "There I was..." ;D ha ha
Good job but shopped.
A large part of the airflow is OVER the wing, and it's "heavy" under the wing. The flames look like they are in free air, neither going over the wing or up toward it.
Also, there would be a HUGE amount of smoke from such a poor fuel-air mixture.
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: SkyKing on May 02, 2006, 08:01:54 PM
Here's another picture............... I want your thoughts on this one! What the heck?!
The helo pic is for real, and this type of ad is getting more popular, taking over from the string banners just like skytyping took over from skywriting (before the Save-the-Mosquito folks killed the "pollution for pay" business).
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: SkyKing on May 02, 2006, 08:07:35 PM
I am not sure if this is a real picture (but it can be, I've heard about these things before, usually in conjuction with an accident story...)
Coming from a guy who has flown helicopters professionally for 10 years now: I have to say I think this is a pretty dumb thing to do in a helicopter. One windgust and you're sucking the flag into your tailrotor...
That would have to be one heck of a gust. If you look carefully, you can see the weight at the bottom of the line. Also notice how much pull he has going there -- he's got a LOT of drag going there.
I was at a trade show in Las Vegas a couple of years ago and there were a couple of these guys flying around. Nobody noticed the three fixed-wing guys.
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Mike on May 03, 2006, 05:47:33 PM
Nope, I still stand by it. I still think there are smarter things you can do with a helicopter. I know of somebody, in Las Vegas actually, who got the banner in his T/R. I am not sure how (something on take-off) but it almost killed him. He is flying again now but it took a long time to recover....
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Roland on May 03, 2006, 06:55:03 PM
We did banner flights in the army. Well in this case you call it flags. To me it is more dangerous flying back with an empty rope on the hook with no or too less weight on it. Speed matters in both cases.
The fire on the engine on the big plane is a fake and not even a good one. The aircraft lands with high speed and therefore it is impossible to have the flames in front of the engine. This is not possible even if the engine is running on ground with no speed. There is still a mass of air going through tat engine. Sky King mentioned the missing smoke trail.
On modern aircraft an engine on fire cannot take out a wing so easily. The placement of fire protection sections and distance of the tanks to the engine they help in this case.
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Firegirl on May 06, 2006, 05:16:55 PM
Well, I guess if I ever get my helo license (which I am planning on btw) I won't be doing any banner flying . . . ;)
I wonder when I'll see one of them flying around though. Did this become illegal or something? "Cause I've never seen a banner tow with a helicopter in real life before...
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Roland on May 07, 2006, 07:32:16 PM
I don’t think it’s illegal but I know it’s expensive. ;D
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Post by: fliboye on May 13, 2006, 05:55:30 PM
looks real would have scared me to death ;D
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Post by: fireflyr on May 14, 2006, 03:49:22 PM
Yeah, this ones real, I read about it a while back and if memory serves me right, it was being towed or pushed when the incident happened-- wasn't a flight accident.
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Post by: chuckar101 on May 14, 2006, 08:11:13 PM
I'm guessing the linesman who was towing it got a nice long talking too.
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Post by: Roland on May 15, 2006, 05:59:11 AM
An invitement without sitting down for coffee. :-\
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Post by: Plthijnx on May 15, 2006, 01:54:30 PM
rumor has it that the crew had finished working on the bird, hooked it up to the tow then went on break and the doofus on the tow forgot to set the brake and when they came back....voila!
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: C310RCaptian on May 15, 2006, 04:09:59 PM
Yes that is a real picture and I know exactly where it is at. It is located at the Memphis international airport in TN. There is a couple of those concrete ditched that run around the place. I have actually parked at one with the tail of the Cessna 172 overhanging it. There have been quite a few incidents like that. That plane was coming out of Pinnacles maintenance hangar. Pinnacle Airlines (or Northwest Airlink as it is better known) is based there.
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: fliboye on May 15, 2006, 06:09:43 PM
i know this one is real tooooo!!!!
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Post by: fliboye on May 15, 2006, 06:11:26 PM
as so eloquently put, another one of those freight dogs at 100' and a 1/4 mi you can doo it
hehehehehehehe ::)
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Plthijnx on May 15, 2006, 08:58:47 PM
that's a doozie! fuel truck??? yeah i can see it now "Um Yeah! just top 'er off and we'll be on our way!"
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: SkyKing on May 16, 2006, 04:50:17 PM
"Harold, she said to keep our seat belts fastened until we get to the terminal!!!!"
"Doggonnit, Louise, for the fiftieth time . . .EVERYONE ELSE is off the plane and they can't get it out of this ditch until we get off too!"
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: fliboye on May 17, 2006, 01:02:51 PM
Departure time??????? oh no its a twister
we are in kansas toto and she is a wicked witch ;)
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: AeroWitch on May 27, 2006, 04:10:44 AM
The first picture: this is a fake. I found it awhile back on Snopes.com (here's the link (http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/fire01.asp)). As a graphics artist, I suspected that it was a clever Photoshop job when I first saw it - there are numerous .jpg artifacts throughout the picture EXCEPT in the flame, plus the flame is not being reflected on the aircraft nor lighting the tarmac.
The last picture: this is not a tornado. Rather, this is a thundershower with a microburst and a developing wall cloud. This is not to say that it couldn't BECOME a thunderstorm...most wall clouds do have tornadic rotation. :o
-- Me --
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Mike on May 27, 2006, 05:12:52 AM
That's some cool info there, Thanks!
Hey guys! How about a new "is this a real" picture? Anybody got anything else??
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: SteepTurn on May 30, 2006, 11:13:29 AM
I am not sure if this is a real picture (but it can be, I've heard about these things before, usually in conjuction with an accident story...)
Coming from a guy who has flown helicopters professionally for 10 years now: I have to say I think this is a pretty dumb thing to do in a helicopter. One windgust and you're sucking the flag into your tailrotor...
... that's why helicopters should not be used for air traffic, it's too dangerous. They only should stay on the ground as examlpes for failed experiments from sick minds ;-)
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: fliboye on June 02, 2006, 04:44:03 PM
took this one driving through Las Vegas NM.
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Firegirl on June 06, 2006, 04:24:52 PM
Hmmm...looks pretty similar to the ones we see in Las Vegas, NV ;)
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Post by: fliboye on June 07, 2006, 09:22:55 AM
even with the trailer in front. Been there ::) :o
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: james anderson on August 17, 2007, 12:02:00 PM
Looks like a doctored image!!!!!!!!!!
Tom http://www.blogestates.com/blog/jacob
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on August 17, 2007, 03:45:27 PM
About the first picture ,fake ,cause if the engine gets on fire (explodes) goodbye Wing and half of the plane ,as said before : the fuel tanks are ABOVE the engine. And about the second picture....i agree with Mike...Goodbye rotor and helicopter
As it's already been mentioned, engine exploding doesn't mean much for the wing going bye bye.
Looks like it's at least supposed to be a compressor stall, and those do make for some impressive fireballs with engines of that size. They can lead to large amounts of flame from the front and rear of the engine for a short time.
Related to later in the thread: that particular aircraft is on takeoff, not landing. Engine would be at high thrust and thus it makes for some interesting effects with flames as well.
Unfortunately, I cannot find any good pictures of a compressor stall in forward flight at this time (although I have seen some before). We had a 1900 that had a penchant for compressor stalls on the #2 engine for a while, but the PT-6 isn't nearly as impressive when it has them... simply a loud bang and surging in the power output from the engine.
Here is an example of a C-17 in reverse thrust: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1132131/M/
However, it's misleading as a normal compressor stall at high output can leave some impressive signs.
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on August 17, 2007, 10:56:24 PM
OK, how about this new Canadair product, the Super CRJ950???
Real or fake? Hehe ::cowboy::
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Post by: AirScorp on August 18, 2007, 12:58:18 AM
Naw! Wings too large!
But I would like to see it rotate!
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Post by: BrianGMFS on August 19, 2007, 01:30:55 AM
Damn!! I don't think I could fit that on my ramp at work to clear customs ::rofl:: ::rofl:: .... I got a lot of brand new CRJ's since the factory is "just" up the road in Montreal and they stop in Burlington when they come into the States.
Brain
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: arandomguy on August 22, 2007, 03:56:57 PM
roostercruiser, i'm pretty sure thats real, i saw one fly over, only took 15 mins to completely pass tee hee
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: tundra_flier on August 22, 2007, 11:27:36 PM
Isn't there a custom shop in Hollywood making those stretch planes? ::rofl:: If it was painted entirely black I might believe it.
Phil ::cowboy::
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: PiperGirl on October 11, 2007, 03:27:13 PM
Real or fake pic?
Here's the story:
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Family on holiday in Australia for a week and a half when husband, wife and their 15 year old son decided to go scuba diving. The husband is in the navy and has had some scuba experience. His son wanted a pic of his mum and dad in all their gear so got theunderwater camera on the go. When it came to taking the pic the dad realized that the son looked like he was panicking as he took it and gave the "OK" hand sign to see if he was all right. The son took the pic and swam to the surface and back to the boat as quick as he could so the mum and dad followed to see if he was OK.When they got back to him he was scrambling onto the boat in an absolute panic. When the parents asked why, he said "There was a shark behind you" and the dad thought he was joking but the skipper of the boat said it was true and that they wouldn't believe him if he told them what it was. As soon as they got back to the hotel they put the pic onto the laptop and this is what they saw.
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on October 11, 2007, 09:10:53 PM
...the image displayed is in the same vein (as the World Trade Center picture hoax): tourists engaged in a fun activity happily posing for a photographer, blissfully unaware of the mortal danger looming behind them (complete with a fabricated backstory to explain the ghoulish juxtaposition to viewers).
Like the tourist photograph (tourist atop the WTC on Sept 11) from 2001, this image of scuba divers with their backs to a menacing shark approaching from just a few feet away is a digital manipulation.
I must admit, Snopes.com is quickly becoming a welcome addition to my shock-proof Bull$hit detector.
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Frank N. O. on October 16, 2007, 12:38:57 AM
I just found this, that's a toughie since the frame around the doors does look practical for a helicopter conversion, and the shaft being offset inside could be the curved window. Btw it's a old VW model that was rear-engined.
Frank
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: G-man on October 16, 2007, 01:04:56 AM
I was just wondering about what appears to be duct tape on the tail rotor. ::loony:: ::loony:: ::loony::
Actually you can have tape on blades...I would not put any on the TR balde though. When I flew in Hawaii, we put blade tape on the leading edge of the main blades for erosion control...It needed to be changed every 50 hours or so. Occasionally, a peice of tape would get a "nick" in it and slowly start to peel away---we would land and pull it all off for the rest of the day.
I also flew a Hiller 12E many many years ago. It had old wooden blades that were balanced by wrapping duct tape on the outbourd edge of the main blades...One blades tape started coming off one day and destroyed lift.....I got it on the runway, (only just), and had insufficient power to hover, so slid all the way back to the ramp, where the electrics proceeded to catch fire....Never flew a Hiller 12 again.......
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on October 20, 2007, 08:32:06 PM
Mythbusters tried to destroy an A-Star by taping coins to the main rotors. I don't think the SFPD allowed them to tape the tail rotor.
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on October 23, 2007, 06:36:28 PM
From the "Excessive Cuteness" Files!
This PUPPY has been born in Japan with a large, clear, love-heart-shaped pattern in his coat. The Chihuahua was born in May as one of a litter to a breeder. Shop owner Emiko Sakurada said it was the first time a puppy with the marks had been born out of a thousand she had bred. She had no plans to sell the puppy, which has been named "Heart-kun". (He loves you)
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Frank N. O. on October 23, 2007, 07:23:21 PM
No idea if the mark is faked or not, but regardless then that dog looks so cute, awwwwww :)
Frank
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: happylanding on October 24, 2007, 05:58:48 AM
Oh, that dog is lovely!! :-)
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Post by: PiperGirl on October 24, 2007, 12:42:38 PM
quite cute! For it to be that defined is very unsusal. If it is real, I'm sure that the dog would have a very high price tag if the owner ever wanted to sell it.
Well, that's a first!!!!!! Heart or no heart, he's still as cute as can be!
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on October 25, 2007, 03:01:38 PM
He'll catch a Muskie just as good as any other "dog" like him.
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on November 05, 2007, 03:47:25 PM
Hehe. I checked Snopes before I posted those pics. Yes its a real dog. Might not catch as big a Muskie as you'd like Gulfstream, but worth a try! >:D ::loony:: ::thinking::
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: Oddball on December 16, 2007, 08:50:07 AM
that pic of the engine on fire looks fake. have a look at the top of the cowling on the port engine the fire is not even coming from inside the fan section but rather from the outside of it. (budding AAIB employee ;D )
Title: Re: Is this a real picture?
Post by: airtac on December 16, 2007, 04:28:28 PM
