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Inflight Entertainment => The missing link => Topic started by: Frank N. O. on February 18, 2007, 01:37:51 PM

Title: "Real Life Comics" webcomic, strip about pilots
Post by: Frank N. O. on February 18, 2007, 01:37:51 PM
I was reading thrue the archive of another long-running webcomic, Real Life Comics and found this strip, I think this might describe the real artist while the rest of the comic are fictive characters and storyline, at least to some extent. Another strip showed the artist couldn't order a soda because he place didn't serve anyone under 21, even though it was a soda and not alchohol he wanted.

Here's the strip I found: http://reallifecomics.com/archive/020325.html
I thought it was pretty funny, although it could be seen from different angles.

Edit: Another one: http://reallifecomics.com/archive/020328.html

I hope it's ok to post this link here even if it's another webcomic.
Frank
Title: Re: "Real Life Comics" webcomic, strip about pilots
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on February 26, 2007, 03:51:50 PM
HAHAH---Hey!
Title: Re: "Real Life Comics" webcomic, strip about pilots
Post by: Mike on February 26, 2007, 06:20:15 PM

Edit: Another one: http://reallifecomics.com/archive/020328.html

I hope it's ok to post this link here even if it's another webcomic.
Frank

I wonder which category Chuck would be ?  ....hmmmmm....... ::whistle::


BTW:   NO! It's not ok to post the competition !!!  ::complaining:
(just kidding, it's all good!)
Title: Re: "Real Life Comics" webcomic, strip about pilots
Post by: Frank N. O. on March 05, 2007, 03:53:00 AM
Is there even such a pre-flight check? And if so, wouldn't that there in real life be extremely dumb/dangerous? http://reallifecomics.com/archive/021010.html

Frank
Title: Re: "Real Life Comics" webcomic, strip about pilots
Post by: TheSoccerMom on March 05, 2007, 04:18:16 AM
Water in the fuel can settle out onto the bottom of the fuel tank / bladder, and be caught in place by internal ribs or wrinkles (in the case of a bladder), and by shaking the wings, the wisdom goes that you nudge all those blobs of water down to the lowest point (drain/s).  You shake the wing pretty hard, then let it sit for an hour or so, then drain the fuel.

For a million bucks, I couldn't tell you if it makes any difference, but, there ya go!

 :D
Title: Re: "Real Life Comics" webcomic, strip about pilots
Post by: TheSoccerMom on March 05, 2007, 05:02:41 AM
P.S.  Looking at the wing surface during a strong but steady shake is also a way to check for internal structural damage.  I can't recall (it's been so long ago) but I did read somewhere that a pilot found this doing a preflight on a small rental airplane..  but I can't recall the details.

Come to think of it, I can't recall much.   :D

 8)
Title: Re: "Real Life Comics" webcomic, strip about pilots
Post by: Baradium on March 05, 2007, 08:42:12 AM
Jet A dissolves water easily, so with jet fuel you do have to let stuff settle for an hour or so (or so they've told us).

The sump is ideally the lowest point in the system you are trying to sump.  The problem is, cessnas have a rib underthe middle of the tank (or maybe a few anyway) and over time the tank will sag around it.  Water can then be left in the new depression and not sump out. 

We had a 152 with the flight team with this problem (the others didn't).  Anyway, this particular cessna ended up having a fuel cap go bad.  It wouldn't let fuel out but would let water in when it rained.   You'd sump the plane and not get any water, but around climb out after a touch and go the engine would try to die.  The turns around the pattern would be enough to get the water out of the trough that had formed in that plane.  I think they got over a half gallon of water out of it that wasn't sumping out once they finally figured out what was going on.   That plane we'd rock the wings really good before each flight...  the other ones we tended to do that with too, but they didn't have that problem so it didn't make a difference on how much water you got out.

I'd like to note that I've noticed a LOT of people miss belly sumps on cessna 152s and 172s.  Some of them have that sump plugged instead of actually having a sump there, but it seems most people don't know that there *can* be one there.     

As far as Av gas and water, I don't think water even tries to dissolve in avgas... IE, it'll come out rapidly if it was suspended at all.    A good way to test this would be to get a bottle and put some water and some gasoline in it.  Shake it up and see where the water goes.


As far as jet fuel and sumping... we don't sump our planes... self defeating if we are going to fly the plane immediately after fueling 99% of the time.  Guess it's a difference thing with turbine and piston ops.    I'm sure the DA-42 twinstar will have water seperators on it (standard equipment on automotive diesels).
Title: Re: "Real Life Comics" webcomic, strip about pilots
Post by: happylanding on March 05, 2007, 09:52:02 AM
I'll be honest, but it sounds new to me. even if I drain after refueling, waiting at least 5 minutes before doing, I was never told I need to shake the wings and never did..........
Title: Re: "Real Life Comics" webcomic, strip about pilots
Post by: Baradium on March 05, 2007, 10:15:29 AM
I'll be honest, but it sounds new to me. even if I drain after refueling, waiting at least 5 minutes before doing, I was never told I need to shake the wings and never did..........

The old guy who was talking about the cessna issue didn't seem to think it affected pipers, so might be a "don't need to" type thing for them.   

I don't know nearly as much about this as I might sound like I think I do...     :-\
Title: Re: "Real Life Comics" webcomic, strip about pilots
Post by: Frank N. O. on March 05, 2007, 11:37:36 AM
http://reallifecomics.com/archive/030421.html  :o
Also look at the previous one.

Frank
Title: Re: "Real Life Comics" webcomic, strip about pilots
Post by: Fabo on March 05, 2007, 08:21:22 PM
http://reallifecomics.com/archive/030421.html  :o
Also look at the previous one.

Frank


Are you aware that you are killing me in laughter Frank?

I seriously consider taking the ramp.guy job at the loal airport  ;D
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