Roost Air Lounge => Aviation related topics => Topic started by: Baradium on September 03, 2006, 08:38:49 AM
Title: You know what's tough? (somber, smile killer)
Post by: Baradium on September 03, 2006, 08:38:49 AM
Listening to the CVR recordings from flights that did not make it home.
In college, I took a CRM (Crew Resource Management) class and we watched quite a number or analysis of crash, all of them had the CVR tapes included.
Company training also has a few videos of course, and there are also the ones that they show on TV sometimes for documentaries.
It's to make sure we are aware of exactly how things can add up. So we can listen to the guys having their every day conversations, not knowing that they won't have them again. Trying to save an aircraft all the way to the end or having a few moments to realize that there's nothing left you can do. And then there are the ones that never saw it coming.
http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/accident_incident/preliminary_data/ If you would like to keep up with initial data on accidents. I try to keep up sometimes.
As much as I sometimes don't neccessarily enjoy it, I try to keep up with various accidents and what caused it. It's always better to learn from the mistakes of others than to repeat them yourself... especially when you might not get a second chance.
Safe flying everyone.
-Ryan
Title: Re: You know what's tough? (somber, smile killer)
Post by: Frank N. O. on September 03, 2006, 10:37:56 AM
That attitude fits very well with the saying: Learn from other pilots' mistakes, you won't be able to try them all (or something like that).
There were some strange ones, like a water-skiier that forgot to unlock the brakes and flipped, I'd figure that's on the checklist or am I assuming to much? I didn't know glider-pilots had parachutes on either, referring to a mid-air with a glider and it said the highest injury was minimal and the text that the glider pilot bailed out.
Thanks for the post and links, it may be sad, but it has helpful sides as well at least |:)\ Frank
Title: Re: You know what's tough? (somber, smile killer)
Post by: Baradium on September 03, 2006, 09:39:49 PM
I didn't know glider-pilots had parachutes on either, referring to a mid-air with a glider and it said the highest injury was minimal and the text that the glider pilot bailed out.
Thanks for the post and links, it may be sad, but it has helpful sides as well at least |:)\ Frank
I don't believe chutes are required, he just made a choice that paid off (chutes aren't cheap either).
I thought the pictures were posted here of that midair. It's a bit impressive. A guy on another board I'm on does maintenance on the hawker that hit the glider... pieces of the glider went through the #2 engine when they collided so the pilot was injured, with most instruments on that side of the cockpit busted out with only one engine and damage to the airframe and landing gear. Was a female pilot too...
Now, that'l get your attention :o-----someone did a damn fine job of getting that airplane back on the ground |:)\
My opinion of hawkers went up a few notches after this incident...
Title: Re: You know what's tough? (somber, smile killer)
Post by: TheSoccerMom on September 28, 2006, 01:31:27 AM
I saw a few other posts that included a report from the local sheriff's office... they described the pilot as being cut badly and covered with blood... yes, that is one fine job of flying it right to the stop... very impressive! The report said she and the copilot went through all the emergency checklists and performed superbly, despite her injuries, and not knowing what had actually happened to their aircraft.
This is just what one initial report said; it would be fascinating to know all the details, but it seems obvious that they did a phenomenal job.
What an example of performance under pressure!!!!!
