Roost Air Lounge => Current Strip => Topic started by: fireflyr on August 01, 2006, 10:48:35 PM
Title: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: fireflyr on August 01, 2006, 10:48:35 PM
HAAAAHA!! Been there done that :-[ :-[ Talk about embarassing! (I thought YOU untied the tail......)
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: spacer on August 02, 2006, 12:08:01 AM
No, I thought YOU untied it!
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Ted_Stryker on August 02, 2006, 08:43:20 PM
Great one guys!!!
I love the way you worked in Star Trek into it! :)
Since this year is Star Trek's 40th, there are some huge going's ons all across the planet, the largest celebrations being in San Franscisco, Las Vegas (at Star Trek The Experience in the Las Vegas Hilton), and Chicago... but there are planned parties and events clear to Dusseldorf and Moscow!
I wonder if any of those Trek fans would be hitching a ride with Chuck on a flight around then...hmmmm ::) ;D
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Mike on August 03, 2006, 08:49:26 PM
Thanks guys.
Stef was sneaking that "tractor beam" in at the very end. The original strip didn't have it. But that's one of the great advantages of having two people working on a strip, we feed off eachother. It made it a lot more funny didn't it?!
Hey Fireflyer! I heard a smoke jumper make a comment about the type of aircraft you're flying the other day. It cracked me up since I've never heard it before but one flew over just after he said it and I can totally see it: "It looks like a flying shopping-cart !!" HA HA HA :D
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: fireflyr on August 03, 2006, 11:17:35 PM
HAAAAHAAA-----ROFL!!!!! ;D MAN, I never heard that one before but it's true---buy the guy a beer and send me the bill. |:)\ |:)\
Oh, by the way, I only flew them for the money---don't actually like anything about the damn thing. >:( Probably be back flying a Commander next year or ?????? something else. 8)
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Mike on August 03, 2006, 11:26:50 PM
Really?
I thought they fly nice. Isn't that what everybody keeps saying? Lots of maintenance but at least they are great in the air???
I understand though. I just do this for the money as well. I prefer the AStar but any helicopter will do. I choose the job based on money and not based on type...
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: fireflyr on August 04, 2006, 03:09:06 AM
I thought they fly nice. Isn't that what everybody keeps saying? Lots of maintenance but at least they are great in the air???
I understand though. I just do this for the money as well. I prefer the AStar but any helicopter will do. I choose the job based on money and not based on type...
Poor acceleration on takeoff, poor payload (with full fuel and 2 pax, I was grossed out), cramped interior, and being really noisy were not endearing qualities for an air attack airplane----I'll pick a normally asperated Commander over a turbocharged mixmaster anytime, single engine ceiling be damned! (guess the Forest Service feels the same way)
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Stef on August 05, 2006, 11:59:02 AM
I love the way you worked in Star Trek into it! :)
Since this year is Star Trek's 40th, there are some huge going's ons all across the planet, the largest celebrations being in San Franscisco, Las Vegas (at Star Trek The Experience in the Las Vegas Hilton), and Chicago... but there are planned parties and events clear to Dusseldorf and Moscow!
I wonder if any of those Trek fans would be hitching a ride with Chuck on a flight around then...hmmmm ::) ;D
Hehe, to be honest, I wasn't even sure if the Klingons use tractor beams... I like the various series a lot, but my favorite one is "Enterprise", although I have only sean seasons 1 to 3 so far. I wouldn't go as far as studying the Klingon language though. Had a drill instructor at the army who could speak Klingon!! Haha! How well-fitting is that! ;D
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Ted_Stryker on August 06, 2006, 06:59:52 PM
I love the way you worked in Star Trek into it! :)
Since this year is Star Trek's 40th, there are some huge going's ons all across the planet, the largest celebrations being in San Franscisco, Las Vegas (at Star Trek The Experience in the Las Vegas Hilton), and Chicago... but there are planned parties and events clear to Dusseldorf and Moscow!
I wonder if any of those Trek fans would be hitching a ride with Chuck on a flight around then...hmmmm ::) ;D
Hehe, to be honest, I wasn't even sure if the Klingons use tractor beams... I like the various series a lot, but my favorite one is "Enterprise", although I have only sean seasons 1 to 3 so far. I wouldn't go as far as studying the Klingon language though. Had a drill instructor at the army who could speak Klingon!! Haha! How well-fitting is that! ;D
Hehheh... yes... that would indeed be very appropriate for a DI!! :)
Klingons do have tractor beam technology.... they just don't use it often. Normally they blow up whatever they are chasing instead.
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: happylanding on August 15, 2006, 08:46:27 PM
things that happen? fortunately it didn't happen to me yet! ;D But I once was trying to contact Lugano tower (120.25) on the eme frequency, without noticing the "slight difference".It was the first time I was taxiing by myself and I was already damning the radio, sure it had some problems............OOOPS! :) But you make me remember (and in this case it was not me the pilot) that once the twr was asking the pilot ready to take off if he had done his external check. "why? sure" was the reply. "Well, you still have your remove before flight pitot cover on....". :P
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Roland on August 17, 2006, 08:46:44 AM
Oh the do happen, they do. That brings us to the point that one of the most important inspections is the walk-around-inspection!!!
Every time one enters an aircraft it is to be done. Even on very short stops. I can tell stories one looong evening long from occurrences which happened by not properly done walk-around-inspections. And only a few ended so simple like the one in the strip. Mostly the aircraft was heavily damaged, sometimes people got killed. And it has mainly to do with “routine”.
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Ted_Stryker on August 17, 2006, 03:10:48 PM
Just goes to prove that we can never be complacent nor presumptive when making so-called "routine" inspections!
Even when done thoroughly there can still be surprises. I had a clean walk-around inspection, had a perfect run up test, and ended up having to abort a takeoff on an IFR training flight once. I had no Airspeed indicator readings! The problem: a ladybug had crawled into the pitot tube opening and got herself lodged way back inside it! No way to detect the issue, and it took a lot of pressure from an air compressor to blow the thing out of the dissassembled pitot-static system on the wing!
Talk about things bugging you!! ;D |:)\
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Mike on August 18, 2006, 03:27:28 PM
I have seen people do a thorough prefilght of every part of the engine, even make me replace zip-ties and then try to start the thing with the blade still tied down. One guy took off with all his seatbelts hanging out banging against the side of the fuselage and one guy forgot to disconnect the APU (see second book)... Not to mention a fuel truck hitting the a rotorblade while we were inside just to pay our bill. (Looked away for just 5 min!)
I always tried to teach my students to take a good look around the cockpit, especially on a rented aircraft. You never know what the other guy did or forgot and it's usually nothing in the engine. (Unless they just did a 100hr or something, I rarely ever found something wrong with the engine)
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Ted_Stryker on August 18, 2006, 03:46:40 PM
In keeping with that good advice, Mike, I'd like to take this chance to remind people that a post-flight inspection can be helpful too!
I have, on more than one occassion, forgotten my cell phone, or suction-cup pen holder that I had stuck to the pilot's side window before takeoff.
Fortunately, I fly out of a really great FBO, who has been wonderful about retrieving and holding such items for me post-flight. (Ok... I have to put in a shameless plug for them... it's Skyline Aeronautics out of KSUS, Chesterfield, Missouri. I gave out numerous copies of the first Chicken Wings books, and one CFII MEI there was a recipient. http://www.skylineaero.com :) )
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Frank N. O. on August 20, 2006, 02:29:59 PM
Funny strip and a good safety lesson as well, and some good real world experiences to learn from in the posts here too |:)\ I wonder how a ladybug could get in, isn't that what the cover is for? Or did it crawl in bewteen the time it was taken off and the plane was started?
Frank
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: fireflyr on August 20, 2006, 03:51:31 PM
Funny strip and a good safety lesson as well, and some good real world experiences to learn from in the posts here too |:)\ I wonder how a ladybug could get in, isn't that what the cover is for? Or did it crawl in bewteen the time it was taken off and the plane was started?
Frank
Not all pilots use pitot covers---I only use one if the A/C is so equipped---many are not.
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: happylanding on August 20, 2006, 04:53:20 PM
talking about ladybugs, you make me remember - an it has nothing to do with aviation - that last year there was a bush near my house that look like a condo for ladybugs, since there were hundreds of them during the entire Summer season! mates, too bad I did not take any picture, since it was incredible, something magic. :)
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Ted_Stryker on August 21, 2006, 03:49:36 PM
Funny strip and a good safety lesson as well, and some good real world experiences to learn from in the posts here too |:)\ I wonder how a ladybug could get in, isn't that what the cover is for? Or did it crawl in bewteen the time it was taken off and the plane was started?
Frank
Good point! The plane was indeed so equipped, but it was a rental, and was too little utilized. The plane was tied down on the ramp often without the pitot cover on. I assure you, however, after I was done with the plane post-repair, the cover went on! :)
It's an easy thing to overlook, and I've even seen people stick a pitot tube cover on a hot tube, or leave it in place and then take off. One thing is certain.... a hot pitot tube and a pitot tube cover don't go well together! Most of the covers are made from a cheap fake leather/vynil, and they melt onto the hot metal tube, creating a real mess for the mechanic to deal with.
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Ted_Stryker on August 21, 2006, 03:51:49 PM
talking about ladybugs, you make me remember - an it has nothing to do with aviation - that last year there was a bush near my house that look like a condo for ladybugs, since there were hundreds of them during the entire Summer season! mates, too bad I did not take any picture, since it was incredible, something magic. :)
Wow... I know that some consider ladybugs to be good luck, but they were a real pain for my next door neighbor. They set up shop last season all around the back of his house! You don't dare kill them as they stain and smell like crazy too! So long as they don't get inside my house, cockpit, pitot/static system, etc., I'm okay with leaving well enough alone! :) :)
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: fireflyr on August 21, 2006, 11:06:13 PM
talking about ladybugs, you make me remember - an it has nothing to do with aviation - that last year there was a bush near my house that look like a condo for ladybugs, since there were hundreds of them during the entire Summer season! mates, too bad I did not take any picture, since it was incredible, something magic. :)
Wow... I know that some consider ladybugs to be good luck, but they were a real pain for my next door neighbor. They set up shop last season all around the back of his house! You don't dare kill them as they stain and smell like crazy too! So long as they don't get inside my house, cockpit, pitot/static system, etc., I'm okay with leaving well enough alone! :) :)
Ladybugs are little hellonwheels aphid eaters----leave em' alone and they'll protect your flowers!
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Ted_Stryker on August 22, 2006, 02:39:06 PM
talking about ladybugs, you make me remember - an it has nothing to do with aviation - that last year there was a bush near my house that look like a condo for ladybugs, since there were hundreds of them during the entire Summer season! mates, too bad I did not take any picture, since it was incredible, something magic. :)
Wow... I know that some consider ladybugs to be good luck, but they were a real pain for my next door neighbor. They set up shop last season all around the back of his house! You don't dare kill them as they stain and smell like crazy too! So long as they don't get inside my house, cockpit, pitot/static system, etc., I'm okay with leaving well enough alone! :) :)
Ladybugs are little hellonwheels aphid eaters----leave em' alone and they'll protect your flowers!
Well, that's good to know.... now if I had flowers! I've got a hedge along the front of my house, grass, and trees. If it requires more care than what mother nature can do without my attention, it doesn't survive with me. I could kill a plastic plant! ;D
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: fireflyr on August 22, 2006, 09:51:53 PM
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Well, that's good to know.... now if I had flowers! I've got a hedge along the front of my house, grass, and trees. If it requires more care than what mother nature can do without my attention, it doesn't survive with me. I could kill a plastic plant! ;D
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I can relate to that, after years of having a reputation as a plant killer, I hired a gardener----place looks awesome and I have more time for gin and tonic when I get home. :D
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: happylanding on August 23, 2006, 04:28:08 PM
Fireflyr, I can understand the point. I was able to kill even a cactie........ :P
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: fireflyr on August 25, 2006, 02:37:01 AM
Back to the strip...Anyone ever forget the chocks before start up? On a check ride? :-[
Oh yeah, several times, and it's soooo embarassing to have to shut down and ask the right seater to remove the chock when you're suppossed to be scrambling on a fire! :-[
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Plthijnx on August 26, 2006, 05:38:58 PM
chocks - yes, on a checkride - no. jeez that'd be an almost guaranteed bust!
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on October 24, 2006, 08:24:36 PM
I passed the ride just fine, but the check pilot gave me a look like I was the dumbest thing she'd seen all day.
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: TheSoccerMom on October 31, 2006, 11:35:33 PM
well...... you don't ever have to worry about THAT as long as I am still kicking!!! heh heh!!
;) ;) ;) ;) :D :D :D
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: TheSoccerMom on October 31, 2006, 11:38:38 PM
Ooh ooh! I just went from a newbie to a fledgling... OH BOY!!
I have to go preen now.. I think I feel some feathers coming in.
::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: tundra_flier on November 01, 2006, 05:23:42 AM
I thought they fly nice. Isn't that what everybody keeps saying? Lots of maintenance but at least they are great in the air???
I understand though. I just do this for the money as well. I prefer the AStar but any helicopter will do. I choose the job based on money and not based on type...
Poor acceleration on takeoff, poor payload (with full fuel and 2 pax, I was grossed out), cramped interior, and being really noisy were not endearing qualities for an air attack airplane----I'll pick a normally asperated Commander over a turbocharged mixmaster anytime, single engine ceiling be damned! (guess the Forest Service feels the same way)
Hmmm...sounds suspiciously like my C-150 ;) :D
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: tundra_flier on November 01, 2006, 05:38:25 AM
Funny strip and a good safety lesson as well, and some good real world experiences to learn from in the posts here too |:)\ I wonder how a ladybug could get in, isn't that what the cover is for? Or did it crawl in bewteen the time it was taken off and the plane was started?
Frank
Not all pilots use pitot covers---I only use one if the A/C is so equipped---many are not.
My plane has the little flip up pitot cover that opens as soon as the plane starts moving? I always flip it up during my preflight and take a peek. Once, there were a bunch of little legs in there ??? So I tapped the side of the pitot and a little spider dropped out! :o Some how he'd wiggled his way past the cover.
I've also re-written my preflight check list, goes something like this: 1. dip tanks (not going anywhere without fuel after all) 2. Check sumps. 3. Remove Covers (winter only) 4. Remove tiedowns 5. remove chocks
I've found I forget things far less this way because removing, untieing etc doesn't break up the flow of my preflight that way. I should also mention that I once forgot to remove the insulated cowling cover untill I looked out to clear the prop with my hand on the starter! ::) I was in the habit of leaving it on till right before I climbed in the cockpit to keep the engine as warm as possible. Now I remove it with the rest of the covers, the engine's not going to cool that much in the couple min. it take to do the rest of the pre-flight.
Phil
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: tundra_flier on November 01, 2006, 05:44:43 AM
Back to the strip...Anyone ever forget the chocks before start up? On a check ride? :-[
Oh yeah, several times, and it's soooo embarassing to have to shut down and ask the right seater to remove the chock when you're suppossed to be scrambling on a fire! :-[
Never forgot to pull the chocks, but I was starting taxi out once and realized I'd left the trunk of the car open. That's where I was stashing the chocks, cowl plugs, step ladder etc. Had to call ground, tell them I was 'delaying taxiing a minute', shut down, crawl out of the plane (6 foot, 230lb pilot in an old C-150, I don't 'jump' out!), shut the trunk and get going again. :-[ Probably relieved a lot of stress as the tower guy laughted about that one! ::)
Phil
Title: Re: TIED DOWN!!!
Post by: Baradium on November 03, 2006, 01:07:10 AM
Back to the strip...Anyone ever forget the chocks before start up? On a check ride? :-[
Oh yeah, several times, and it's soooo embarassing to have to shut down and ask the right seater to remove the chock when you're suppossed to be scrambling on a fire! :-[
Never forgot to pull the chocks, but I was starting taxi out once and realized I'd left the trunk of the car open. That's where I was stashing the chocks, cowl plugs, step ladder etc. Had to call ground, tell them I was 'delaying taxiing a minute', shut down, crawl out of the plane (6 foot, 230lb pilot in an old C-150, I don't 'jump' out!), shut the trunk and get going again. :-[ Probably relieved a lot of stress as the tower guy laughted about that one! ::)
Phil
Ohhh...you hadn't told me about that one...it's recent....You've only had a vehicle with a trunk for the last year or so ;D
