Roost Air Lounge => Current Strip => Topic started by: Artoo on May 26, 2011, 04:03:02 PM
Title: Bear with me
Post by: Artoo on May 26, 2011, 04:03:02 PM
I watched a few clips of Tumbling Bear's shows and it's some really impressive stuff |:)\ but he narrates from the cockpit, and I just want to know at what point do aerobatic pilots get over saying "WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: Mike on May 26, 2011, 04:51:36 PM
He explained to me how he gets that airplane to tumble but I wasn't able to follow 100%. My favorite part is when he goes straight up and then tumbles on top while disappearing in the smoke. All you see is a little yellow tumble around in the smoke until the plane "falls" out at the bottom. Very cool!
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: Fabo on May 27, 2011, 02:47:13 PM
Lomcovák.... or Talířek, maybe, as it seems done from vertical... First shown in 1964 by Ladislav Bezák in Zlin 226 Trener, it is apparently some kind of negative snap roll, or so I have been told, ending either in reverse spin or tailslide.
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: tundra_flier on June 04, 2011, 09:13:43 AM
I've heard that Lomcovak tanslates to "Headache" :)
I've seen the description of how to do it. as I recall:
1. pull up to 45 degrees. 2. let speed bleed off to near stall, slipping with right rudder, left aileron. 3. near stall, apply full right rudder, right aileron, up elevator to enter a snap roll. 4. at 180 degrees roll, fully invertered reverse the elevator to full down, apply full throttle. The aircraft should swap ends so it's going up, backwards at full power. :O 5. Hang on tight till things stabilize to an inverted flatt spin. 6. Recover from inverted flat spin into vertical dive.
Never tried it from the cockpit, and could never get the timing right with an R/C plane. ;)
Phil
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: Oddball on June 04, 2011, 09:46:01 AM
a club mate tried to explain how to do one on a R/C model................pull up and put everything into the top left or right corners lol
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: Mike on June 04, 2011, 06:41:28 PM
I dunno . . . .
Any manuever where you "stabilize" into an "inverted" flat spin seems to be something I would probably try to avoid for my whole aviation career......
::sick::
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: G-man on June 04, 2011, 06:56:50 PM
Almost sounds similar to when I learned to hover a helicopter....
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: Mike on June 05, 2011, 05:20:01 PM
yeah, I remember those days . . . ;D
spinning out of control, all over the place in the meadow, the feeling I'll never get the hang of this ever . . . . .
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: Frank N. O. on June 07, 2011, 12:00:52 PM
I found a couple of short clips on YouTube too, looks nifty. Also sounded like the female presenter in one of the videos herself was a pilot. Is is also true that some of the se civilian propeller planes can pull as many g's as a supersonic fighter-jet? At least ones without thrust-vectoring.
Frank
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: Mike on June 07, 2011, 06:39:16 PM
I found a couple of short clips on YouTube too, looks nifty. Also sounded like the female presenter in one of the videos herself was a pilot. Is is also true that some of the se civilian propeller planes can pull as many g's as a supersonic fighter-jet? At least ones without thrust-vectoring.
Frank
I think the female presenter is his wife. And yes, she is a pilot as well. She owns a super-sweet Turbo-Commander. As for the G's, I think 6 or so is not unheard of. I can ask the bear though....
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: spacer on June 07, 2011, 09:40:06 PM
I get nervous enough doing simple stalls as it is. ::bow::
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: Jupiter on June 07, 2011, 10:15:02 PM
I found a couple of short clips on YouTube too, looks nifty. Also sounded like the female presenter in one of the videos herself was a pilot. Is is also true that some of the se civilian propeller planes can pull as many g's as a supersonic fighter-jet? At least ones without thrust-vectoring.
Frank
I think the female presenter is his wife. And yes, she is a pilot as well. She owns a super-sweet Turbo-Commander. As for the G's, I think 6 or so is not unheard of. I can ask the bear though....
+6/-3 is what our aircraft's rated for (aerobatics from '30s), but I've seen modern VLA's with rating of up to +9/-6, so also fully aerobatic...
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: Stef on June 09, 2011, 10:17:37 AM
Wow, as much as I would want to hitch a ride on an aerobatics plane one day, I think I would puke within 10 minutes max. I don't know why my brother doesn't get sea/car/airsick but I do. Quite unfair! Recently I heard that seasickness is associated with allergies or histamine intolerance etc... Anyone know more about this? ???
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: Fabo on June 09, 2011, 03:54:21 PM
Wow, as much as I would want to hitch a ride on an aerobatics plane one day, I think I would puke within 10 minutes max. I don't know why my brother doesn't get sea/car/airsick but I do. Quite unfair! Recently I heard that seasickness is associated with allergies or histamine intolerance etc... Anyone know more about this? ???
I get sick when I'm a passenger in a vehicle that's controlled in a maner I find unsafe, especially if I don't know/trust the operator of the vehicle.
Frank
Title: Re: Bear with me
Post by: Stef on June 28, 2011, 10:46:47 AM
Oops, totally forgot to reply to that one. Yeah... Well, actually it'd be awesome to fly again. But I am sure I would most definitely puke in a ride like that. How about we hook up for a a beer first? :-)
