I was reading an old "have you ever noticed......." topic........so....I was getting courious.........
how many among you male pilot actively uses/used the excuse of being pilot to attract women?!? And does it really work?
No... trust me... ;D
Saying you're a pilot these days is like saying you're an accountant. ::)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Frank N. O. on May 28, 2006, 05:02:40 PM
LOL, that's not even neutral but almost a bad thing with all those economic company scandals lately isn't it? :D
Btw, now the topic is up, how do men react when a woman says she's a pilot?
Frank
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Mike on May 28, 2006, 05:06:14 PM
Didn't you see how much Chuck has with this in our strips? ;D ;) (heh heh
I rarely tell anybody I am a pilot. I don't know why really. In the beginning it was because I looked so young and nobody believed me anyways plus I don't really care what people think about me being a pilot, and now it stuck I guess.... I do know some guys though who learned how to fly helicopters to attrack women. I asked one of them if it worked out for him and he said... > > > > > > > > > > "Nope."
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Mike on May 28, 2006, 05:09:45 PM
Btw, now the topic is up, how do men react when a woman says she's a pilot?
Frank
My very first flight instructor (in the little orange 25hp plane) was a ME109 pilot for the Germans in WWII. He still flies to this day. Then, my primary fixed wing flight instructor and my private through commercial helicopter CFI were both girls. So for me it's not unusual...
But I would like to hear from Happy how the "average pedestrian" reacts to her telling somebody she's a pilot as well...
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on May 28, 2006, 05:22:06 PM
Frank and Mike: to reply to your question….it depends. From what I could and can see, there are: a) Men who are pilots and dislike women in cockpit. (I had a really tough time during the courses with an instructor who was alike!!!). b) Pedestrian men who get scared about a woman being a pilot and run away… c) Pedestrian men who see in this a chance to talk about engines and such (even if it is not the same thing!!!), thinking they have found a new beer buddy ;) d) Pedestrian who takes the info easily. But they never ask for a ride! e) Men who are pilots and like the fact that women fly. So, at the end, it happens that outside of the airport I do not usually say anything about the license!
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: fireflyr on May 28, 2006, 07:32:08 PM
e) Men who are pilots and like the fact that women fly. So, at the end, it happens that outside of the airport I do not usually say anything about the license!
I gotta be grouped with (E), I think it's super anytime I meet a woman pilot---I flew copilot for a female captain and had nothing but admiration for her IFR skills. I am not a "women's libber" or even close but I appreciate ability in anyone regardless of sex. My exwife was a terrible pilot, had nothing to with sex--she was just not suited for the task, I mean she wrecked my airplane trying to land downwind---with a boyfriend on board! (partly why she's my EX) If I was young and single (and I am niether) I would be VERY excited to meet an attractive female pilot! |:)\ |:)\ |:)\
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on May 28, 2006, 08:44:21 PM
......My exwife was a terrible pilot, had nothing to with sex--she was just not suited for the task, I mean she wrecked my airplane trying to land downwind---with a boyfriend on board! (partly why she's my EX) If I was young and single (and I am niether) I would be VERY excited to meet an attractive female pilot! |:)\ |:)\ |:)\
But the point is....Is she your ex because A) she wrecked the plane or because B) she had a boyfriend on board?!?!? ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on May 28, 2006, 08:47:42 PM
I was anyhow forgetting something that relates to
b) Pedestrian men who get scared about a woman being a pilot and run away…
I think it is something that happens to us aviators all, anyhow. Do you never hear the question..........."you flight? but.......aren't you scared?". It always make me laugh. As if we did something to s@@t ourselves in the pants not knowing what to do else! I find it a question incredibly stupid!
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Roland on May 28, 2006, 08:56:03 PM
I’ve met some pilots which thought the may attract women by being pilots. Actually that doesn’t work. It’s not the job, which attracts. Maybe not even the person. But the money. ;)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Roland on May 28, 2006, 09:09:59 PM
I’ve met two (yes, two only) female helicopter pilots in my career. The first I’ve met in Port Harcourt, flying S-76, and found her being accepted on the spot. She did her job with high skill and experience and had been a good pal at the bar too.
The second I’ve met on a Spanish island did everything wrong she could do. After a short while friction mounted and she got thrown out. Sad, but I think, it had nothing to do if she was a female pilot or not. It was (is) the personality. As a man she would have been sacked a lot earlier.
What I’m going to tell with that is that it depends on the person ant the personality. The way to approach people and do the job. But isn’t that the case in every profession?
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on May 28, 2006, 09:28:17 PM
I’ve met some pilots which thought the may attract women by being pilots. Actually that doesn’t work. It’s not the job, which attracts. Maybe not even the person. But the money.
I’ve met two (yes, two only) female helicopter pilots in my career. The first I’ve met in Port Harcourt, flying S-76, and found her being accepted on the spot. She did her job with high skill and experience and had been a good pal at the bar too.
The second I’ve met on a Spanish island did everything wrong she could do. After a short while friction mounted and she got thrown out. Sad, but I think, it had nothing to do if she was a female pilot or not. It was (is) the personality. As a man she would have been sacked a lot earlier.
What I’m going to tell with that is that it depends on the person ant the personality. The way to approach people and do the job. But isn’t that the case in every profession?
Well, it’s quite pessimistic, the part that relates solely to money I mean... ;-) I think that being a pilot can be helpful only if you share the same passion (and neither always actually!!!!!). otherwise it’s like scuba diving and having the significant other who doesn’t either like swimming.
On the other side, I do not know if we get any preferential lane, I just have a PPL and I did not study to work in aviation. But it could surely be. I mean, we keep talking about same opportunities between sexes and lately for women is sometimes easier than for men…
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: fireflyr on May 29, 2006, 01:50:22 AM
But the point is....Is she your ex because A) she wrecked the plane or because B) she had a boyfriend on board?!?!? ;) ;) ;)
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I could have forgiven the dalliance with another man and I might have forgiven her for some really stupid flying but to put all that together and then to find out the insurance company had canceled the hull insurance (even after the premium doubled for putting a private pilot on the policy) and I had to eat the wreck was too much for me to handle so I set her free. Makes a good story--yes? ::)
Actually she's my ex because I did the mid-life crisis thing---changed careers, bought a sports car, and found a young trophy girlfriend (now wife of 20 years), but of course, wrecking my f-ing airplane didn't really help matters but I prefer the more entertaining version! ;D
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on May 29, 2006, 07:40:44 AM
I could have forgiven the dalliance with another man and I might have forgiven her for some really stupid flying but to put all that together and then to find out the insurance company had canceled the hull insurance (even after the premium doubled for putting a private pilot on the policy) and I had to eat the wreck was too much for me to handle so I set her free. Makes a good story--yes? ::) Actually she's my ex because I did the mid-life crisis thing---changed careers, bought a sports car, and found a young trophy girlfriend (now wife of 20 years), but of course, wrecking my f-ing airplane didn't really help matters but I prefer the more entertaining version! ;D
yeah, the entertaining version is much better! :D A good story to remember: at least fly another's aircraft and not the husband's! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on May 29, 2006, 07:58:55 AM
I could have forgiven the dalliance with another man and I might have forgiven her for some really stupid flying but to put all that together and then to find out the insurance company had canceled .................................
Sorry Fireflyr, I was reading again what I wrote just 30 minutes ago, and I thought that maybe it could be offensive. I mean, I just got the entertaining part, but was forgetting what it means to end a relationship and all the brouhaha that goes together. that's always sad and takes a fu@@ing and long time to recover. so, if you feel offended by the remarks I did, I beg your pardon!!!!!
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: fireflyr on May 29, 2006, 02:36:53 PM
ME OFFENDED!!!! >:(
NAW, it's just history and I like making fun with it----things always happen for a reason---it's like when life gives you lemons, well, just make lemonade!! ;D
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on May 29, 2006, 08:41:40 PM
NAW, it's just history and I like making fun with it----things always happen for a reason---it's like when life gives you lemons, well, just make lemonade!! ;D
I will remember that......... the part about lemon, considered that my life is quite sour lately!!! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Mike on May 30, 2006, 03:51:54 AM
NAW, it's just history and I like making fun with it----things always happen for a reason---it's like when life gives you lemons, well, just make lemonade!! ;D
I will remember that......... the part about lemon, considered that my life is quite sour lately!!! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
btw: Is this a wedding ring on your finger there in the picture? ("post your picture" thread) You don't have one of those husbands who don't understand and/or don't enjoy flying, do you?!?!? That would be bad :-\
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on May 30, 2006, 09:02:14 AM
btw: Is this a wedding ring on your finger there in the picture? ("post your picture" thread) You don't have one of those husbands who don't understand and/or don't enjoy flying, do you?!?!? That would be bad :-\
Nooo, it is not a wedding ring (or well, it is, but I bought it for myself!) , it must be a kind of...............Bridget Jones' mania :D :D :D :from time to time I buy myself one......(and maybe I should take care, since I'm often mistaken for a married woman!!!!). I could never have a boyfriend/husband who doesn't understand/ enjoy flying! it would be like being with somebody who dislikes an important part of the significant other!! Can you imagine? to have to fight to go flying? Nahhh, too depressing!
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: SteepTurn on May 30, 2006, 09:42:31 AM
Frank and Mike: to reply to your question….it depends. From what I could and can see, there are: a) Men who are pilots and dislike women in cockpit. (I had a really tough time during the courses with an instructor who was alike!!!). b) Pedestrian men who get scared about a woman being a pilot and run away… c) Pedestrian men who see in this a chance to talk about engines and such (even if it is not the same thing!!!), thinking they have found a new beer buddy ;) d) Pedestrian who takes the info easily. But they never ask for a ride! e) Men who are pilots and like the fact that women fly. So, at the end, it happens that outside of the airport I do not usually say anything about the license!
Hy there! Generally, as I told yesterday on the phone: It doesn't work!!! I didn't really try it, but if you're talking to a person.. knowing her/him better allways you're talking about hobbies, or not? replying to the points mentioned here: a) it depends what a woman does in the cockpit... bringing a coffee or some food it's ok ;) d) It's not a question of sex, anyway, people don't ask for a ride... P.S. when you have some passengers aboard seat belts fastened and door closed, try to ask if anybody can find a Users Manual about the plane you're sitting in..... ;D e) ....because during the flight, these women don't create chaos on the roads :-X ...I hope I won't be banned for these lines
enjoy your flights!
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Mike on May 30, 2006, 06:49:43 PM
btw: Is this a wedding ring on your finger there in the picture? ("post your picture" thread) You don't have one of those husbands who don't understand and/or don't enjoy flying, do you?!?!? That would be bad :-\
Nooo, it is not a wedding ring (or well, it is, but I bought it for myself!) , it must be a kind of...............Bridget Jones' mania :D :D :D :from time to time I buy myself one......(and maybe I should take care, since I'm often mistaken for a married woman!!!!). I could never have a boyfriend/husband who doesn't understand/ enjoy flying! it would be like being with somebody who dislikes an important part of the significant other!! Can you imagine? to have to fight to go flying? Nahhh, too depressing!
Oh good! I was worried when you mentioned the "sour life" But it looks like you got your s#%t together!
Unfortunately I can not only imagine how this is since I went through it but only for a very very short period (obvously) One girl once asked: "Can't you do anything else for a living" guess what the answer was? "NOPE" ...and out the door she went.... just to mention one example. something similar happened two more times. And I have finally found a really cool girl who doesn't mind at all. Her dad used to own a plane and she even has a few hours logged. It was worth the wait!! ;D
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on May 30, 2006, 08:24:45 PM
Oh good! I was worried when you mentioned the "sour life" But it looks like you got your s#%t together!
Unfortunately I can not only imagine how this is since I went through it but only for a very very short period (obvously) One girl once asked: "Can't you do anything else for a living" guess what the answer was? "NOPE" ...and out the door she went.... just to mention one example. something similar happened two more times. And I have finally found a really cool girl who doesn't mind at all. Her dad used to own a plane and she even has a few hours logged. It was worth the wait!! ;D
Well, almost got all my s%&% together, but still having some WIP going on! Well, that’s already a big problem. I always think that it’s possible to stay together only if the significant other accepts what he has in front of him/her. And I can see your point of view, and it is one of the things that must be taken into account...... No wonder my former was a pilot: the passion for flight can be a really sticky glue! And it’s unusual for an outsider to understand what it means!
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Mike on May 30, 2006, 10:00:22 PM
Well, almost got all my s%&% together, but still having some WIP going on! Well, that’s already a big problem. I always think that it’s possible to stay together only if the significant other accepts what he has in front of him/her. And I can see your point of view, and it is one of the things that must be taken into account...... No wonder my former was a pilot: the passion for flight can be a really sticky glue! And it’s unusual for an outsider to understand what it means!
Your former was a pilot, huh!?! HA HA HA!! No wonder you like Chicken Wings so much!! ;D Does he remind you of Chuck ? ;) ;D
btw: what is WIP? is this another aviation term I don't know about?
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on May 30, 2006, 10:11:30 PM
"Shallow approach" I don't know if I even want to find out what that means but it sounds like one of Chuck's opening lines in a bar. ::)
It is actually. And it's quite proved that if you just do not use this kind of approach, you can be veeeery successful! ;) ;) ;)
Well then, my little turtle dove," shall we have a Madeira, my dear, my intentions are perfectly clear?" (from an old lecher's poem-quoted by WC Fields)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Sleek-Jet on May 31, 2006, 09:12:03 AM
WC Fields... classy... ;D |:)\ ::) :D
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on May 31, 2006, 11:47:55 AM
Well then, my little turtle dove," shall we have a Madeira, my dear, my intentions are perfectly clear?" (from an old lecher's poem-quoted by WC Fields)
an approach like this and you can approach any woman!! and no chuck final to the story! ;) ;)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: ManuPiper on June 07, 2006, 07:42:20 PM
a) Men who are pilots and dislike women in cockpit. (I had a really tough time during the courses with an instructor who was alike!!!).
Now I really can't imagine which instructor you're talking about. I really can't. Oh wait - it's the same instructor I had! :) But he didn't have an problems with me because I'm a man... haha...
This was an useless post basically ... I just wanted to remind Happylanding of the instructor she had ... :D
-Manuel
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: FlyboyGil on December 12, 2006, 01:32:43 AM
You wanna attract women? Get a girl!! I'm serious. One thing I noticed when dating, or hanging with friends, is that more women stare at me when I'm with a girl. I have a friend that I don't see often (she's an english teacher in South Korea), but when she comes home we go to dinner, almost everygirl in the restaurant always gives me the eye. I have to keep checking that my barn door isn't open, and that the horse isn't coming out!! That rarely happens when I'm not with a girl. So ladies, what's the deal with that? I dress as sharp when I'm out solo on the town, or with friends. As for the Pilot's license, I have yet to impress anyone with it, except for my friend from Korea, whom I have taken flying
Women, go figure
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Baradium on December 12, 2006, 08:56:54 AM
the first question (re being a pilot and attracting women): Nope, but that doesn't say much. I don't try to use it to that effect and I'm not exactly good at the attracting side anyway. ;)
I do have to say that if one wanted to, one could probobly go out to the villages and being a pilot is a pretty big deal to a lot of the natives.
Re: Women pilots.
One of my best friends is a female pilot. I think she's a better pilot than I am, but she'd deny it. It'd be hard to compare though, since we've gone such different directions. I'm flying 1900s and she's going to be flying Seahawks (the naval variant of the US Army Blackhawk helicopter).
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: tundra_flier on December 12, 2006, 08:12:53 PM
I was reading an old "have you ever noticed......." topic........so....I was getting courious.........
how many among you male pilot actively uses/used the excuse of being pilot to attract women?!? And does it really work?
Actually, I try to avoid telling anyone I'm a pilot these days. Typically they assume I'm a commercial pilot, and are then dissapointed. Or they assume I fly a bush plane like a Super Cub or C-185 and are disappointed I can't take them fishing or hunting for gas money. Then proceed to pester me about why I don't upgrade to a bush plane. >:( I usually end that by asking them "why don't you get your liscense and buy your own Super Cub?" Except when my boss tried it, I asked him for a raise ;D
To be perfectly cynical for a moment, I don't really try to attract women these days. 1. I really don't really meet a lot of new people anyway, so there isn't much oportunity. 2. I've discovered that most of the single women in my age range arn't worth attracting (Divorced twice with partial custidy of 2 or 3 kids and living the present boyfriend seems to be the norm.) Of course they probably say the same thing about single men my age too. :P
As far as women pilots go, I'm all for it. Some of my best friends are women who fly (and are happily married as well). And I really enjoy sharing the cockpit with them whether they're PIC, passenger or CFI. So I guess the women pilots I meet tend to end up being buddies rather than a romantic interest. Why spoil a good friendship?
Phil
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on December 12, 2006, 08:43:22 PM
Actually, I try to avoid telling anyone I'm a pilot these days. Typically they assume I'm a commercial pilot, and are then dissapointed.
Hahaha :) that's is good. it's usually the next question that everybody asks, apart from "aren't you scared?" (that sounds like a big stupid thing to say since were we scared, we would not flight, right?!?)
To be perfectly cynical for a moment, I don't really try to attract women these days. 1. I really don't really meet a lot of new people anyway, so there isn't much oportunity. 2. I've discovered that most of the single women in my age range arn't worth attracting (Divorced twice with partial custidy of 2 or 3 kids and living the present boyfriend seems to be the norm.) Of course they probably say the same thing about single men my age too. :P
Ohmygod! that makes me remember that there is maybe a similar cause to my bridget jones status....since everybody I meet seems to be at least, best case, coming out from an important story, that risks to give me the job I'm not really good at of putting together whatever fell apart....and - worse - it makes me think that I'm every year nearer to the "...rdy".......thing that surely means I will encounter always less free spirits of my age. I actually believe I will end the eveing in front of a glass of wine, a ton of chocolate and Chicken Wings so to revive my mood!!!!! :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: tundra_flier on December 12, 2006, 09:19:10 PM
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Ohmygod! that makes me remember that there is maybe a similar cause to my bridget jones status....since everybody I meet seems to be at least, best case, coming out from an important story, that risks to give me the job I'm not really good at of putting together whatever fell apart....and - worse - it makes me think that I'm every year nearer to the "...rdy".......thing that surely means I will encounter always less free spirits of my age. I actually believe I will end the eveing in front of a glass of wine, a ton of chocolate and Chicken Wings so to revive my mood!!!!!
Well let us know the time and date, and I think I speak for most of us, We'll be happy to join you in the chat room with a few drinks to help you mourn. ;) I can honestly say "been there, done that!" And once you get over the hangover it's not that bad.
Phil
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: tundra_flier on December 12, 2006, 09:25:33 PM
You wanna attract women? Get a girl!! I'm serious. One thing I noticed when dating, or hanging with friends, is that more women stare at me when I'm with a girl. I have a friend that I don't see often (she's an english teacher in South Korea), but when she comes home we go to dinner, almost everygirl in the restaurant always gives me the eye. I have to keep checking that my barn door isn't open, and that the horse isn't coming out!! That rarely happens when I'm not with a girl. So ladies, what's the deal with that? I dress as sharp when I'm out solo on the town, or with friends. As for the Pilot's license, I have yet to impress anyone with it, except for my friend from Korea, whom I have taken flying
Women, go figure
Hmmm...your the second person I've heard say that. My sister's coming for a visit in a couple months, maybe we should hit a few bars together. ;)
Phil
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: FlyboyGil on December 12, 2006, 09:51:20 PM
You wanna attract women? Get a girl!! I'm serious. One thing I noticed when dating, or hanging with friends, is that more women stare at me when I'm with a girl. I have a friend that I don't see often (she's an english teacher in South Korea), but when she comes home we go to dinner, almost everygirl in the restaurant always gives me the eye. I have to keep checking that my barn door isn't open, and that the horse isn't coming out!! That rarely happens when I'm not with a girl. So ladies, what's the deal with that? I dress as sharp when I'm out solo on the town, or with friends. As for the Pilot's license, I have yet to impress anyone with it, except for my friend from Korea, whom I have taken flying
Women, go figure
Hmmm...your the second person I've heard say that. My sister's coming for a visit in a couple months, maybe we should hit a few bars together. ;)
Phil
We should hit a couple of bars!!! :D
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: TheSoccerMom on December 12, 2006, 10:03:09 PM
I'M IN!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on December 12, 2006, 11:33:42 PM
About men being "looked at" if they're with a woman.......yes, it can be quite true. I believe it comes from the fact you have a ....say.... glimpse on his behaviour when with a girl and sometimes it strikes too. Anyhow, I've to say that the only time I fell in love, it was looking at my former touching the controls of the plane... :) :) btw, it seems that what you said also works on the contrary side. we have an idiom in italian that says: "married woman, everybody wants her..."
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Mike on December 13, 2006, 01:52:21 AM
Actually, I try to avoid telling anyone I'm a pilot these days. Typically they assume I'm a commercial pilot, and are then dissapointed.
It's the same for me though tundra.
First they don't believe me because I look so young and then try to explain my job to somebody who has never seen a forest fire or been in aviation.... I sometimes just tell them I am a firefighter and leave it at that. That way they can make up their own little "Backdraft" picture of what they think I do ;)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: FlyboyGil on December 13, 2006, 03:17:03 AM
You wanna attract women? Get a girl!! I'm serious. One thing I noticed when dating, or hanging with friends, is that more women stare at me when I'm with a girl. I have a friend that I don't see often (she's an english teacher in South Korea), but when she comes home we go to dinner, almost everygirl in the restaurant always gives me the eye. I have to keep checking that my barn door isn't open, and that the horse isn't coming out!! That rarely happens when I'm not with a girl. So ladies, what's the deal with that? I dress as sharp when I'm out solo on the town, or with friends. As for the Pilot's license, I have yet to impress anyone with it, except for my friend from Korea, whom I have taken flying
Women, go figure
Hmmm...your the second person I've heard say that. My sister's coming for a visit in a couple months, maybe we should hit a few bars together. ;)
Phil
We should hit a couple of bars!!! :D
SOCCER MOM'S COMING!!! ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: tundra_flier on December 13, 2006, 03:41:32 AM
By the way, What does CPT stand for? And who is Bridget Jones? :-\
Phil
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: undatc on December 13, 2006, 04:11:53 AM
By the way, What does CPT stand for? And who is Bridget Jones? :-\
Phil
Bridget Jone's is a fictional character from two movies and a book i think (not sure on the book part). English, hopeless romantic, perputally single, etc etc. Actually i find her character quite attractive... hmmmm....
Yes I watch chick flicks.....
Being that I'm from an aviation school, there are 1500 other guys here that are running around flashing the pilot card so no it doesnt work. Though when i was home and told a few friends, it raised some eyebrows.
However, when i droped the card that I was an ATC student, their initial replay was, "oh your going to go collge to be the guy on the ground with the colored flashlights?" I generally walked away after that. However the few that knew what it was were greatly impressed, though im not sure why, quoting my favorite movie Pushing Tin, "air traffic controllers have the highest rate of depression, alcaholism, divorce and suicide of any profession."
Partly also one reason i have a hard time finding someone is that ATC and aviation is a big part of my life, and a lot of young women i meet have no clue, or think im a total geek/nerd. Their loss.
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: TheSoccerMom on December 13, 2006, 04:28:17 AM
"there are 1500 other guys here that are running around flashing the pilot card...."
;) ;) ;)
Well, GEE. Sometimes you have to flash more than the er, uhm, er... "pilot card"..... Ahem.
:o :o :o :o :o
(Oooh, I hope this doesn't get me thrown in the Penalty Box..... 8) )
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: tundra_flier on December 13, 2006, 04:42:17 AM
"there are 1500 other guys here that are running around flashing the pilot card...."
;) ;) ;)
Well, GEE. Sometimes you have to flash more than the er, uhm, er... "pilot card"..... Ahem.
:o :o :o :o :o
(Oooh, I hope this doesn't get me thrown in the Penalty Box..... 8) )
What then? Like, and ATP rating? :-[
;)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on December 13, 2006, 08:37:34 PM
And why do girls always go for the jerks?
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Frank N. O. on December 13, 2006, 08:47:39 PM
Hmmm, this just gave me a thought the very moment I saw the last reply. This is a kind-of math equation/philosphical piece but I'm not that skilled and it's a spur of the moment thing so please excuse any faults but I thought it could give a good laugh so I'll try.
If Chicks dig jerks. and Chicks don't dig pilots Then Pilots aren't jerks after all :D
This was based on the classic thing about pilots not being attractive to women but with the above statement about jerks, that actually could hint that pilots aren't jerks anyway (again, this is just an attempt at a spur of the moment joke, there's still the matter of the pig vs pilot drunk joke hehe, oh and know that I look it thrue before posting I see that this might not be very friendly against women but it's just an attempted joke without any real insult intended).
Frank
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: tundra_flier on December 13, 2006, 08:59:01 PM
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If Chicks dig jerks. and Chicks don't dig pilots Then Pilots aren't jerks after all
You forgot to factor in mans second law:
Anyone with a beautiful woman when you're not = jerk |:)\
Phil
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on December 13, 2006, 09:07:02 PM
If Chicks dig jerks. and Chicks don't dig pilots Then Pilots aren't jerks after all :D
until it (I mean the relationship) lasts, I agree with you (then they become jerks like any other)! :) Jokes apart, there is a kind of common K I found in several male pilots, from what I could see in the years spent in the aviation field. they are fun, and they are dreamer and often quite romantic too (at the very least, if you do not pass me it, I could say that nobody else will rent an aircraft to take you to the sea for an escapade...). and well, it's a charming mix...
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: fireflyr on December 13, 2006, 11:02:33 PM
However, when i droped the card that I was an ATC student, their initial replay was, "oh your going to go collge to be the guy on the ground with the colored flashlights?" I generally walked away after that. However the few that knew what it was were greatly impressed, though im not sure why, quoting my favorite movie Pushing Tin, "air traffic controllers have the highest rate of depression, alcaholism, divorce and suicide of any profession."
I beg to differ on the rate of alcoholism. I thought pilots were almost *required* to be alcoholics. ;) Heck, that's the argument my roommates tried to use on my to get me to drink, allthough I didn't really care. ;)
Hey Phil, been there, done that.... wait a minute... sorry, wrong line... really.... been there, still there...
However, when i droped the card that I was an ATC student, their initial replay was, "oh your going to go collge to be the guy on the ground with the colored flashlights?" I generally walked away after that. However the few that knew what it was were greatly impressed, though im not sure why, quoting my favorite movie Pushing Tin, "air traffic controllers have the highest rate of depression, alcaholism, divorce and suicide of any profession."
I beg to differ on the rate of alcoholism. I thought pilots were almost *required* to be alcoholics. ;) Heck, that's the argument my roommates tried to use on my to get me to drink, allthough I didn't really care. ;)
Hey Phil, been there, done that.... wait a minute... sorry, wrong line... really.... been there, still there...
However, when i droped the card that I was an ATC student, their initial replay was, "oh your going to go collge to be the guy on the ground with the colored flashlights?" I generally walked away after that. However the few that knew what it was were greatly impressed, though im not sure why, quoting my favorite movie Pushing Tin, "air traffic controllers have the highest rate of depression, alcaholism, divorce and suicide of any profession."
I beg to differ on the rate of alcoholism. I thought pilots were almost *required* to be alcoholics. ;) Heck, that's the argument my roommates tried to use on my to get me to drink, allthough I didn't really care. ;)
Hey Phil, been there, done that.... wait a minute... sorry, wrong line... really.... been there, still there...
Girls DO go for the jerks..... women don't. :-* :-*
But didn't we establish in the humor thread that women are evil? :P
-Ryan
Woman are evil. It's even in the bible.
Jebus said that money is the root of all evil. You need alot of money to be with a girl. Girls therefore are evil!!!!
Sounds like good math to me
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: tundra_flier on December 14, 2006, 03:50:46 PM
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Woman are evil. It's even in the bible.
Jebus said that money is the root of all evil. You need alot of money to be with a girl. Girls therefore are evil!!!!
Actually that's a misquote, what the bible says is "The love of money is the root of all evil" And I believe it was St. Peter, not Jesus that said it. However, the bible also says that "A man can not serve to masters, he will love one and despise the other" So I guess it's impossible to love money and women then? Since if you love women you'll spend the money ;)
Phil
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: TheSoccerMom on December 14, 2006, 08:50:02 PM
Since when do guys have MONEY?????????????
??? ??? ??? ???
I guess I must know too many PILOTS.......... :-\
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: FlyboyGil on December 14, 2006, 09:16:45 PM
Nah, you just know to many guys who have been with evil people, aka women!! :D
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Baradium on December 14, 2006, 09:44:06 PM
Here's the proof again:
Women require time and money (women = time x money)
Time IS money (time = money ---> women = money x money --> women = money^2)
Money is the ROOT of all evil (money = sqrt(evil) (that's square root))
From that we get women = money ^2 = sqrt(evil)^2 ---> women = evil
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: FlyboyGil on December 14, 2006, 09:57:48 PM
To further this, I quote from the movie Paint your Wagon. DOn't judge me for I watch, but these two scenes just stick out! :D
"You can't buy a women for money" Re "you just try getting one without it!"
Pardner "Ben do you feel like you need a drink?" Ben "How did you know?" Pardner "Because I need one too." Ben "And it takes a woman to do it. Bless their hearts!"
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: fireflyr on December 14, 2006, 11:45:00 PM
I did it the old fashioned way-----Found true love and a woman doctor in 1 package ;) That's how I can afford to fly for a (living?)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: tundra_flier on December 15, 2006, 12:13:16 AM
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Pardner "Ben do you feel like you need a drink?" Ben "How did you know?" Pardner "Because I need one too." Ben "And it takes a woman to do it. Bless their hearts!"
Ha Ha! I thought I was the only one to remember that movie! "Paint Your Wagon" starring Clint Eastwood and Lee Marvin married to the same woman as a musical. :o
But I believe the conversation was:
Pardner "Ben do you get the feeling you need a drink?" Ben "How did you know?" Pardner "Because I need one too." Ben "Since when do you drink?" Pardner "Oh...Since right about now" Ben "And it takes a woman to do it. Bless their hearts!"
:D :D :D Phil
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: FlyboyGil on December 23, 2006, 02:23:20 PM
Pardner "Ben do you feel like you need a drink?" Ben "How did you know?" Pardner "Because I need one too." Ben "And it takes a woman to do it. Bless their hearts!"
Ha Ha! I thought I was the only one to remember that movie! "Paint Your Wagon" starring Clint Eastwood and Lee Marvin married to the same woman as a musical. :o
But I believe the conversation was:
Pardner "Ben do you get the feeling you need a drink?" Ben "How did you know?" Pardner "Because I need one too." Ben "Since when do you drink?" Pardner "Oh...Since right about now" Ben "And it takes a woman to do it. Bless their hearts!"
:D :D :D Phil
Well hand me down that can of beans! You were right! :D
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: tundra_flier on December 26, 2006, 10:06:07 AM
Pardner "Ben do you feel like you need a drink?" Ben "How did you know?" Pardner "Because I need one too." Ben "And it takes a woman to do it. Bless their hearts!"
Ha Ha! I thought I was the only one to remember that movie! "Paint Your Wagon" starring Clint Eastwood and Lee Marvin married to the same woman as a musical. :o
But I believe the conversation was:
Pardner "Ben do you get the feeling you need a drink?" Ben "How did you know?" Pardner "Because I need one too." Ben "Since when do you drink?" Pardner "Oh...Since right about now" Ben "And it takes a woman to do it. Bless their hearts!"
:D :D :D Phil
Well hand me down that can of beans! You were right! :D
"out the winder go those beans I've had a lucky day!" :D That movie was also my introduction to the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. ;)
Phil ::cowboy::
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: AirtransRecon on December 29, 2006, 10:35:56 PM
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Three reasons, we're good looking, we got money, and we're well-------never mind! (Damn, I got suckered into admitting it again)
This money you speak of...may I have some that I can complete the trifecta? (whatever that third aspect is)
I think the personalities really play the important parts in a relationship. I want/love to fly. The now ex didn't even remotely understand it. Her passion is based (it seems) on being a corporate whore whose only goal is to rake in as much money as possible durring her life and do nothing exciting with it. Between work and sleep she never did anything. Incredibly frustrating for someone who doesn't like sitting around watching TV, plotting the next move to promotion. Just wasn't going to work from day one and I knew it. Lessons learned. Next girlfriend/relationship, she's gotta fly or at least like getting airborn.
KW
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: TheSoccerMom on January 23, 2007, 12:34:31 AM
It is pretty hard to exist alongside someone, if that person doesn't at least understand how important flying is to you. Even when they do, it can be tough when the job requires you to be gone so much of the time. :-\
And, help me out on this if I am wrong, I think there are some people who simply do NOT understand why we love to fly, and it's really not worth trying to explain such an important, yet difficult to pin down, subject to someone who just isn't going to "get it". I know a few people to whom I just don't mention flying -- it works out easier that way, and is much less frustrating, overall.
Am I the only one who has difficulty in this area? Just curious!
:)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: undatc on January 23, 2007, 05:19:57 AM
No I understand mom....
And as hard as it is for you to explain flying to the opposite sex, try explaining the thrill of watching dots move on a screen to a girl. Usually doesn't work out well. Tower is a little easier to explain, but still tough. I however have pretty much just given up in this aspect of life for the time being, with recent set backs and blunders the whole dating scene for this controller is looking pretty bleak.
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: TheSoccerMom on January 24, 2007, 03:43:47 AM
At least I am not alone. ;)
I laughed about the "moving dots" --- that is COOL STUFF, if you ask me!! But yes, I can see where it could be tough to get across.
As for "setbacks and blunders", ohmygoodness, I am sure I could outscore anyone in the forum as to what NOT to do!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
There IS actually a picture of me under "hopeless" in the dictionary!! ::rofl:: But, since I'm just a dumb PieLutt, it doesn't even bother me. ::whistle::
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: undatc on January 24, 2007, 04:01:31 AM
well, i must be right above or below you in the hopeless dictionary. After my breakup with my ex two years ago, things since havent ever worked out.
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: TheSoccerMom on January 24, 2007, 04:49:35 AM
Well, any joking aside, I think we all can hit some rough patches. It DOES get better, and besides, you're in a good spot, with a good future ahead of you, AND you have a great sense of humor!!
That is more than most people. :)
Keep smiling!! ;)
The S-Mom**** :-*
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: undatc on January 24, 2007, 05:46:52 AM
Thats what I keep telling myself it seems so futile though at times. However I'm almost at the end of this period of life, and about to begin a new one, so hopefully things will change.
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: TheSoccerMom on January 24, 2007, 11:25:56 PM
One thing that we can always count on IS change. I know it sounds so stupid and corny, but things DO get better. They get much better!!!! ;D
I can vouch for that personally, though I'll avoid the gory details because I doubt anyone who appreciates ChickenWings is the same kind of person who would get off on the latest chapter of "As The Stomach Turns". HA!
Life is good, and we have a lot of good fortune to go along with the rocks on the runways. ;)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: undatc on January 24, 2007, 11:30:54 PM
Life is good, and we have a lot of good fortune to go along with the rocks on the runways. ;)
Arent rocks on the runway usually bad? LoL, any who, change is something we can do, and its something I work on quite a bit, its hard though to change when you dont know what you want to change to. Yes be yourself, but that begs the question, what if who I really am isn't who I want to be? Too deep for me, I took several years of philosophy in school, this topic can go on forever.
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: TheSoccerMom on January 25, 2007, 12:49:15 AM
YESSS, it can!! You have it nailed. ;)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: undatc on January 25, 2007, 02:12:55 AM
Yea, I just dont like not knowing my future. Comes I guess form the way I was raised, and also being type A personality, as well as being a controller, I like to know everything and plan everything out, and it drives me nuts not knowing.
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Frank N. O. on January 25, 2007, 03:08:54 AM
Yea, I just dont like not knowing my future. Comes I guess form the way I was raised, and also being type A personality, as well as being a controller, I like to know everything and plan everything out, and it drives me nuts not knowing.
Ditto! At least the last part, but that's due to me knowing that the world isn't as simple as too many people make it out to be and I prefer to make sure I know what I'm doing , especially when it's about something that could have serious consequences and I'm usually a person that takes things slowly, won't allow myself to get rushed since I know how I work the best and the consequences, it is however possible to make people understand it, but it's a complicated explanation, but still possible.
That being said, the only friends I have except the old couple that have been our familyfriends since I was small (but who are badly sick, in their 70s and who we can only rarely visit, less than once a month) are all people from the internet, and the closest of them are in western USA and I'm stuck here. I also never had a girlfriend and probably not just due to the fact that I never get near any since parties, bars etc. just have no interest for me, however I thing women are the most wonderful things on the planet, well maybe some planes can match but no cars. I just noticed however that the plane ticket just went back to the normal price so now any trip this yeas is impossible due to the ticket cost, just one month ago it was barely half what it is now again, I just don't get it! It's the same company, same level, cheapest possible.
Frank
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on January 25, 2007, 09:13:37 PM
Yea, I just dont like not knowing my future. Comes I guess form the way I was raised, and also being type A personality, as well as being a controller, I like to know everything and plan everything out, and it drives me nuts not knowing.
one of the good things in life, and in that I agree with Mom, is change. do not bother if you do not have anything under control (well, I presume you should worry if it is one of the moving dots on the screen...). there are moments in life in which you will have actually nothing under control, and everything seems to slip away. at the end, they will show up as being moments that gave you a sparkle for the best.
Yes be yourself, but that begs the question, what if who I really am isn't who I want to be? Too deep for me, I took several years of philosophy in school, this topic can go on forever.
It can happen. you look yourself at the mirror and do not recognize yourself anymore and you do not understand anymore what the hell you are, what you want, what you believe etc. Luckiily enough, again, when it happens it also has an end. It took me 18 months to reply to all these answer, and some more I will not post here. :) And let me tell, after the "trip in the underground", you come out with all the replies. Until it doesn't spontaneously happen, do not ask. it will be difficult to answer, since the answer are under your nose and in what you dream but we probably tend at not seeing them. they shine too much. If you can see what I mean! :) I was not good in philosophy, but life sometimes ask to stop and try to think hard!
And well, do not forget to add happylanding under the hopeless! It seems quite difficult to find somebody to pair with...since in my (happy)landings I always land alone! :)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: undatc on January 25, 2007, 10:55:43 PM
It can happen. you look yourself at the mirror and do not recognize yourself anymore and you do not understand anymore what the hell you are, what you want, what you believe etc.
I think thats where I am now. I look at myself, and I dont know who I am. I know what I love, and what I want, but how to get there, and how I wound up where I am I do not know. The next several years are going to be so crazy, and traumatic for me, I doubt myself constantly.
I look forward to the end of this period in my life. Which is sad in a way as these are supposed to be the "best" years of my life.
if it can be of any help, Dostoievski helped me a great deal with his "memories of the underground". But remember, while you are there, that it even if they are supposed to be for true the best years of your life, I was told the same thing, the fact you do not feel that, doesn't necessarily mean they are lost. you will get an equilibrium that will give you the chance to appreciate more and fully what comes next. you're almost at the end of your studies, it's a scary, incredibly scary moment, snce it's like when you're going to throw yourself out of a plane (never tried parachuting, but I still presume it could be the feeling). When I was in your shoes I was scared to death, and thought that maybe once I would have finished all was looking for would not have realized, and maybe it was not was I was looking for, or maybe I was the wrong person for the future I wanted, and in the meantime, the love field had thrown me into a nightmare, collapsing, destroying the last piillar of lfe that was stll standing and had given some happiness and equilibrium, makng me feel betrayed by life, by love and with a big deal of sadness and loss and the feeling of responsability to have to cope with. And actually, they aren't always the best years of life. Don't stick to that belief, since they can be hard, but the work you're doing on yourself wll give you - and in that believe me - all the "weapons" necessary to enjoy more, and enojoy fully, what comes next and yourself too. I hope it can help.
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: undatc on January 26, 2007, 03:34:59 PM
if it can be of any help, Dostoievski helped me a great deal with his "memories of the underground". But remember, while you are there, that it even if they are supposed to be for true the best years of your life, I was told the same thing, the fact you do not feel that, doesn't necessarily mean they are lost. you will get an equilibrium that will give you the chance to appreciate more and fully what comes next. you're almost at the end of your studies, it's a scary, incredibly scary moment, snce it's like when you're going to throw yourself out of a plane (never tried parachuting, but I still presume it could be the feeling). When I was in your shoes I was scared to death, and thought that maybe once I would have finished all was looking for would not have realized, and maybe it was not was I was looking for, or maybe I was the wrong person for the future I wanted, and in the meantime, the love field had thrown me into a nightmare, collapsing, destroying the last piillar of lfe that was stll standing and had given some happiness and equilibrium, makng me feel betrayed by life, by love and with a big deal of sadness and loss and the feeling of responsability to have to cope with. And actually, they aren't always the best years of life. Don't stick to that belief, since they can be hard, but the work you're doing on yourself wll give you - and in that believe me - all the "weapons" necessary to enjoy more, and enojoy fully, what comes next and yourself too. I hope it can help.
I identify a lot with this. This is my 6th year in college, and I'll be near 7 when all is said and done. This has been the only constant unmoving thing in life for me. In a few weeks, I'll register for classes, hopefully, for the last time. It's really weird telling people im a senior in college. I remeber, a long time ago, I think i was in sixth grade or so I was in the doctors office getting a check up for something or other, and I asked the doctor, "how many years it took him to become a doctor?" He replied, "well 13 years in primaray school, 5 in college, and another 3 in med school, for a total of 20 years." I turned to my mom with almost tears in my eyes, "I think I'll die if I have to go to school for 21 years." And now looking back, this has been 15 years for me in school. Wow. I wonder quite often if I have chosen the right path. In lab when I'm working traffic everything just flows, one clearence to the next, but when we get more into technical things, I struggle, for instance yesterday we started uncontrolled IFR departures from satalite airports. It wasnt so much phraseology, thats easy, its time management. I have to read N12345 a clearence and a void time, while DAL NWA and DLH are all calling in and AFR needs a turn and an ILS clearence.
It all worked out, though AFR busted the localizer, and had to make a left turn to 250 to reintercept, which also required a pointout to the North Sector, but because of the unique nature of the job, I can be cut loose at almsot anytime in the next several years. If I fail anyone of several tests, I can no longer be a controller. If I cant pass a medical, or a back ground check, I can be a controller. If my trainer at OKC doesnt like me, i cant be a controller. It's really distressing to know all this, and wonder, "has the last 5 or 6 years been a waste?" As if i dont check out, and cant be a controller, my degree is basicly, worthless.
Anyway, I wrote this as I was sitting in micro economics, and the prof was kinda giving me some dirty looks, so I think I'm gonna go back and pay attention to class. Big game this weekend, Sioux & Gopher, I leave in a couple of hours to go to MSP for the game, wish the SIOUX luck!!!
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: fireflyr on January 27, 2007, 12:08:02 AM
AW HECK, you'll be just fine. And even if you busted the controller slot (unlikely happening), an education is never, I mean, NEVER , wasted! And as far as this being the "best of times" ---EVERY day with it's promise of new adventures is always "the best" no matter how many years pass. You just have to always look forward to the promise that every new dawn brings, that's why I get up every day long before the sun rises, so I can welcome the best day of my life, which is every single day that that I do wake up. I'm 65 and I still get excited when the sun comes over the horizon---YIPEE ::cowboy:: Life is one long holiday and the challenge of a hard job just makes you more keenly aware of your successes |:)\
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on January 27, 2007, 12:16:11 PM
AW HECK, you'll be just fine. And even if you busted the controller slot (unlikely happening), an education is never, I mean, NEVER , wasted! And as far as this being the "best of times" ---EVERY day with it's promise of new adventures is always "the best" no matter how many years pass. You just have to always look forward to the promise that every new dawn brings, that's why I get up every day long before the sun rises, so I can welcome the best day of my life, which is every single day that that I do wake up. I'm 65 and I still get excited when the sun comes over the horizon---YIPEE ::cowboy:: Life is one long holiday and the challenge of a hard job just makes you more keenly aware of your successes |:)\
I applaud your words Fireflyr. I will bear them in mind when I risk forgetting!
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: undatc on January 27, 2007, 10:40:51 PM
Thanks for your words friends. I'm having a blast this weekend here in MSP!!! The Sioux in a major upset beat the Rodents (gophers) last night and we play them again here in about 3 hours. Hopefully we can break out the brooms tonight!!!
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Afr1can_Av1ator on March 08, 2007, 05:43:55 AM
I admire anyone who endures the training necessary to become a controller. I spent some time in a control tower waiting for official night in order to take a signal light test for color vision with an FAA inspector (KADS), and I've seen the work that goes into the job. I respect UNDATC for his knowledge, and I hope that one day, he will be watching my back.
In response to comments about knowing who we are, or who we want to become, I have to admit that discovering those answers are a large part of college. On the other hand, I believe in the God of the Bible, and a lot of who I desire to become, and who I have become is based on those beliefs. I don't have all my answers yet, but I have a firm belief that they will be revealed to me in their proper timing. When things are not in my control seems to be when my God has been able to work the most beneficial changes in my life.
In the relational side of life, I don't really see anything happening for me in the near future, but I believe that God has a plan for that too. For the moment, I'm not even sure I would have time for a relationship, so I am content to apply myself to study, and development of skill, study including scripture (go ahead and make fun of me for being a hermit...), and skill including mechanical skill as well as precision flying. I do hope to get married and raise a family some day, but I don't mind if my calling in life is otherwise.
And to answer the original topic: Outside of my University, which has hundreds of pilots, I've been careful who I inform of the fact that I'm a pilot. Many don't really care, and others as was previously mentioned automatically assume I'm an airline pilot or something, and look at me like I'm too young. I've actually been surprised by the number of people who are "impressed" by the fact that I hold a pilot's certificate. I guess it all really depends on the person you meet or talk to and their presuppositions about pilots. I think I've discovered that ultimately it's my Character and personality that define me a whole lot more than my education or learned skills.
I understand that I've introduced some potentially controversial views to this discussion, and I'm willing to take criticism for what I believe.
Learn from the past for hindsight is 20/20, live in the present for tomorrow worries aobut itself, plan for the future for it will take you by surprise if you're unprepared.
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: happylanding on March 14, 2007, 11:39:56 PM
I admire anyone who endures the training necessary to become a controller. I spent some time in a control tower waiting for official night in order to take a signal light test for color vision with an FAA inspector (KADS), and I've seen the work that goes into the job. I respect UNDATC for his knowledge, and I hope that one day, he will be watching my back.
In response to comments about knowing who we are, or who we want to become, I have to admit that discovering those answers are a large part of college. On the other hand, I believe in the God of the Bible, and a lot of who I desire to become, and who I have become is based on those beliefs. I don't have all my answers yet, but I have a firm belief that they will be revealed to me in their proper timing. When things are not in my control seems to be when my God has been able to work the most beneficial changes in my life.
In the relational side of life, I don't really see anything happening for me in the near future, but I believe that God has a plan for that too. For the moment, I'm not even sure I would have time for a relationship, so I am content to apply myself to study, and development of skill, study including scripture (go ahead and make fun of me for being a hermit...), and skill including mechanical skill as well as precision flying. I do hope to get married and raise a family some day, but I don't mind if my calling in life is otherwise.
And to answer the original topic: Outside of my University, which has hundreds of pilots, I've been careful who I inform of the fact that I'm a pilot. Many don't really care, and others as was previously mentioned automatically assume I'm an airline pilot or something, and look at me like I'm too young. I've actually been surprised by the number of people who are "impressed" by the fact that I hold a pilot's certificate. I guess it all really depends on the person you meet or talk to and their presuppositions about pilots. I think I've discovered that ultimately it's my Character and personality that define me a whole lot more than my education or learned skills.
I understand that I've introduced some potentially controversial views to this discussion, and I'm willing to take criticism for what I believe.
Learn from the past for hindsight is 20/20, live in the present for tomorrow worries aobut itself, plan for the future for it will take you by surprise if you're unprepared.
… I always “envy” the people who have that belief, to tell the truth. In fact I think, take it as my opinion, that you have another kind of approach to life, that eases part of the contradictions, and helps when into the problems, and gives you patience, and hope and probably (and I say probably since I just look from the outside…) a certain set of replies already answered to. On the other side, for sure the only forces that can keep you upright are yours and yours only, and when you have to inflate some hope or patience, since you have none left, it’s demanding. Or, certain reply you gave in the past can be overturned in a sec and you find yourself lost again, 36 under, to have to climb up from the beginning...And it always seemed to me that to believers that doesn't happen. But belief is a mystery, right? :)
And...Don’t take it for granted, but even if you do not have time, the day you fall in love, I dare say that time expands and you will see that you can do all you were doing, plus spend time with your beloved. At least, for me it worked…but maybe it was because mine was an overworking pilot?!? :)
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: airtac on April 22, 2007, 03:36:18 AM
Happy, I just read your beautiful post---you make me feel all fuzzy inside ::bow::
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: TheSoccerMom on April 25, 2007, 04:22:06 AM
Hey Airtac....... my cooking would do the same..... is it a date?!?!?!?
::rofl::
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: airtac on April 25, 2007, 03:10:03 PM
Hey Airtac....... my cooking would do the same..... is it a date?!?!?!?
::rofl::
I meant WARM and fuzzy rather than NAUSEOUS and fuzzy ::sick:: of course it's a date because no doubt you're lying about your cooking :-\
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: G-man on April 25, 2007, 04:05:29 PM
OK---This thread is getting way too serious----Just to bring it back to the original question....... :D
I have just met a new woman in my life (we'll call her Wanda), and am trying to impress her as I think she may be the woman for me, however this may prove difficult and any advice you have would be truly appreciated.
I am a 40 year old recovering alcoholic (although I am not doing too good right now), I have been married and divorced three times and have 5 children (two of them born out of wedlock). My sister is a prostitute in downtown San Francisco, and my brother is currently on death row in San Quentin for rape/murder.
My father was killed in a drug deal that went bad and I have never met my mother who left when I was six months old to join a Kabutz in Israel. I just filed bankrupcy after yet another woman had my wages garnished for a child I supposedly fathered in the late 80's, have lost my trailerhome to the bank, and I currently live in a homeless shelter.
My question to you is---should I tell Her that I am a helicopter pilot?
Yours sincerely
G-man
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Frank N. O. on April 25, 2007, 04:25:29 PM
OK---This thread is getting way too serious----Just to bring it back to the original question....... :D
I have just met a new woman in my life (we'll call her Wanda), and am trying to impress her as I think she may be the woman for me, however this may prove difficult and any advice you have would be truly appreciated.
I am a 40 year old recovering alcoholic (although I am not doing too good right now), I have been married and divorced three times and have 5 children (two of them born out of wedlock). My sister is a prostitute in downtown San Francisco, and my brother is currently on death row in San Quentin for rape/murder.
My father was killed in a drug deal that went bad and I have never met my mother who left when I was six months old to join a Kabutz in Israel. I just filed bankrupcy after yet another woman had my wages garnished for a child I supposedly fathered in the late 80's, have lost my trailerhome to the bank, and I currently live in a homeless shelter.
My question to you is---should I tell Her that I am a helicopter pilot?
Yours sincerely
G-man
::rofl:: ::rofl:: ::rofl:: |:)\
Frank
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: TheSoccerMom on April 26, 2007, 12:50:48 AM
So Hey, which would be worse.....fling wing, stuck wing, ATC or being from AK ::thinking::
definitely being from Alaska
and for a moment i actually thought you were serious, and was like holy shit, my life isn't so bad. Then I realized I was tired, and you're playing tricks on my lucid mind. :(
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: airtac on April 26, 2007, 08:30:00 AM
So Hey, which would be worse.....fling wing, stuck wing, ATC or being from AK ::thinking::
definitely being from Alaska
and for a moment i actually thought you were serious, and was like holy shit, my life isn't so bad. Then I realized I was tired, and you're playing tricks on my lucid mind. :(
NO-NO-NO-----SEMI-lucid is as good as it gets for you kid :D
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: airtac on April 26, 2007, 08:42:20 AM
So Hey, which would be worse.....fling wing, stuck wing, ATC or being from AK ::thinking::
Go ahead and tell her you're a fling wing pilot from AK and an agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac, who stays awake nights contemplating the meaning of DOG and she wiil understand---take it from me, I know, I married a Sicilian ::eek::
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: tundra_flier on June 03, 2007, 07:16:12 AM
Alaskan Women have a saying:
"The odds are good...but the goods are ODD!" ::rofl::
Phil ::drinking::
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: airtac on June 03, 2007, 08:38:12 AM
"The odds are good...but the goods are ODD!" ::rofl::
Phil ::drinking::
Better that than the California mantra about the goods are queer ::rofl:: Read in the paper this morning the the prison system here is allowing overnight visits to same-sex partners ::complaining: --perverts ::rambo::
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on June 03, 2007, 08:55:25 AM
So Hey, which would be worse.....fling wing, stuck wing, ATC or being from AK ::thinking::
Go ahead and tell her you're a fling wing pilot from AK and an agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac, who stays awake nights contemplating the meaning of DOG and she wiil understand---take it from me, I know, I married a Sicilian ::eek::
Yikes! I was once married to a northern Italian. They ARE a handful. But then again, so is every woman.
I told my current wife that I was an Oxymoronic, slightly dyslexic Agnostic of Gnostic persuasion (but without Orthodox requirements) and she bought my line Lock Stock and Barrel! Now all I have to do is convince the Roman Catholics that our children are NOT Dyslexic! ::rofl:: ::loony::
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Fabo on June 03, 2007, 01:44:59 PM
Dictionary, anyone?
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: Baradium on June 03, 2007, 09:45:27 PM
Go ahead and tell her you're a fling wing pilot from AK and an agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac, who stays awake nights contemplating the meaning of DOG and she wiil understand---take it from me, I know, I married a Sicilian ::eek::
That's what always make you feel well thinking about pilots. we are a special category and we can remember we are not alone! :) By the way, did you find the meaning of dog?!?
Title: Re: CPT and women
Post by: AirScorp on June 26, 2007, 02:21:44 AM
