Inflight Entertainment => There I was... => Topic started by: Mike on April 25, 2006, 04:50:20 PM
Title: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on April 25, 2006, 04:50:20 PM
So, Frank and I have been talking in the thread "flinging bovine excrement" about a new thread similar to the post your picture and that kind of stuff.
Let's list all the cool stuff you have flown over the years. ANYTHING you got your hands on, license or no license, rating or no rating, just as long as you were at least in the air holding the controls and moved them a little.
Lets see how many aircraft types we can rack up here!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Plthijnx on April 25, 2006, 05:23:42 PM
First plane to ever fly - Beaver then:
C-150 C-152 C-172 edit again: C-172RG C-182 Citabria Cheetah Tiger Tomahawk Warrior Archer Arrow Geronimo Seminole Yak-52 I think that's it so far
edit forgot about a friends' Mooney
2nd edit: forgot i've got a few hours in a C-172RG (thanks Frank!)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on April 25, 2006, 06:18:11 PM
Ok, when it comes to planes:
First plane ever was a little Piper Cherokee (PA 140 I believe) then: C-150 C-152 C-172 C-182 C-210 C-337 C-414 Seminole Archer Decathlon Boeing Stearman (yeah!! 2.5hrs!! what a ride!! ;D)
Diamond Dimona Grob SF-25 "Motorfalke" HB-21 Samburo (not sure on the spelling)
I gotta look up the rest in my logbooks....
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on April 25, 2006, 06:43:16 PM
Yep, I was right, it's called the AVO-68-V "Samburo" motor glider
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: madpilot44 on April 25, 2006, 08:20:28 PM
Ok here is my list (kind of small but hoping to make it bigger and bigger with the years):
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: C310RCaptian on April 25, 2006, 09:18:58 PM
Let’s see:
Cessna: 150 152 170 (on floats) 172 210 (with a massive 550 engine) 310 (both R and C model) 340 (wishful thinking here. My company may trade up. I am hoping they do!)
Beech crap...errr... craft: King air C90 Baron 58 Duchess BE 76
Piper: Seneca II Cherokee 140 A strait tail Bonanza
Lockheed 60 (has an amazing IO720 with 400hp!!!! It was a truck!!!)
If anyone would like to add a plane to my list just give me a call and we will go fly it!!!!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on April 25, 2006, 10:01:10 PM
Wow that's a cool list we already have here! I'm surprised to see that I'm first to list this type:
F-177RG
Yeah that's a short list, but still a wonderful experience and one I hope to have again.
C310: LOL at the Beech name-joke, and a great final line to the post too and I think that one sums it up for most if not all of us here :D
Mike: Cool 2.5 hr ride you got there! Btw how is a Seminole to fly?
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on April 25, 2006, 10:17:30 PM
Let's see...
First plane ever was a Mooney, I think. Had no idea what type. Then:
I think that's it. I tried to put it in chronological order...
Frank, the Slowminole...I mean the Seminole isn't too bad. We always said it had the glide ratio of a chomed set of car keys, but I did like flying it. It flies just like a big Cherokee. It's a great twin engine trainer, but if you want to actually go somewhere, you're better off getting a fast single. You'll get there faster and use less fuel.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on April 25, 2006, 11:34:26 PM
Oh, I forgot the:
V-tail Bonanza (the one that belongs to Harrison Ford even!! who else gets to do that??!!!) C-182RG and the Grumman Tiger
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: C310RCaptian on April 26, 2006, 12:49:23 AM
Do simulators count?? I got to fly the B-2 Sim at Whitman Air Force base for an hour. That was fun. If you ever get to fly one remember not to flair on landing. You will start to climb and finally stall. You have to force it on the runway. It wants to glide forever. That was the hardest part to overcome…besides the night refueling… ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on April 26, 2006, 01:43:49 AM
That's some handy information there buddy! ;) I will remember that for the next time I go fly the B2.
HA HA, just kidding! I actually think it's cool you got to fly that simulator, must have been amazing and it definetly counts since I think you got the closest to flying one of those of anybody here in the forum. But let's not count any playstation simulators here, only "real" and "full motion" simulators!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on April 26, 2006, 02:56:28 AM
Oh, yeah. 182 time. I've got that, too.
Also got to fly one of Northwest's 757 sims in high school. That was an awesome experience.
You mean my Frasca 242 time doesn't count here? ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Roland on April 26, 2006, 06:22:56 AM
Engineer’s hands-on flying on:
B 206 (a lot) B 206L B 205 B 412 AS 350 AS 355F/N (offshore too) AS 365 (a lot) A 109 Power A 119 Koala R 22 S 76A+/B
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Plthijnx on April 26, 2006, 03:39:35 PM
Frank, the Slowminole...I mean the Seminole isn't too bad. We always said it had the glide ratio of a chomed set of car keys, but I did like flying it. It flies just like a big Cherokee. It's a great twin engine trainer, but if you want to actually go somewhere, you're better off getting a fast single. You'll get there faster and use less fuel.
also it has counter-rotating props so it doesn't have a critical engine. although some would argue that you do because if you loose one engine the other one is the only one left and therefore critical.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on April 26, 2006, 06:10:07 PM
I've heard that the critical engine isn't as big a deal as the FAA says it is.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Plthijnx on April 26, 2006, 06:42:11 PM
that depends. the geronimo that used to be an apache can be a bear to turn when doing/practicing critical engine out, well, either engine really. this particular twin has 160 a side and it's REAL un-nerving to point the nose down at low altitudes to gain airspeed and hold blue line. and it will roll when approaching red line. she's a delicate gal to dance with on one engine......
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on April 26, 2006, 07:22:58 PM
I've heard that the critical engine isn't as big a deal as the FAA says it is.
It's not, unless you're low, slow, and turning into it, in which case you'll get to show your spin recovery technique just before the crashing sounds begin-----in which case it becomes a veeeery big deal! :o
I tend to get pretty cautious with the critical engine and try thinking waaaay ahead of the airplane--never stall/spun one yet-- don't want to-- wouldn't be prudent. ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on April 26, 2006, 09:31:40 PM
Wow, a lotta planes, and even another Cardinal RG 8)
There are two things I'm interested in with twins and that is that they have a spare engine in case of engine failure and that I think that having two counter-rotating propellers will make for an easier plane especially with fast changes in power like for an aborted landing for instance however that can still be done with one engine using a gearbox.
One thing I did notice is that the Twin Star is said to have a climb-rate of up to 1700 fpm and the best singles I've seen can on average give maybe 1000-1100 fpm but maybe that's also wing-shape and general drag-coeffient, or is it the massive torque of the diesel-engines (I haven't looked up the "Single" Star (DA-40) yet)?
Critical engine, what does that mean when it's only for planes without counter-rotating props, as I read it? I tried the high-detail Shrike Commander in FS2004 yesterday with one engine and it was pretty even, until I had to taxi on the ground! And while it's a home sim then that add-on plane was said to be made extremely accurately on all counts.
A B-2 simulator, wow! And here I thought it was wild enough to have a magazine publish a 3D view file on the internet of the cockpit.
What's a Frasca?
And the finale about simulator time, I sit in an office chair with wheels on it and use a joystick with small rubber dimples underneath on a wooden desk and car-pedals that all keep sliding around so it's a strain just to try and keep stationary, does that count as a full-motion simulator? :D
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on April 26, 2006, 09:39:48 PM
The critical engine is only a factor on twins without counter-rotating props, which are very common. That way you can use the same engine on both sides, and not one that spins the opposite way. The critical engine is the left engine, because if you lose that one, you have asymmetrical thrust on the right side, which wants to turn the plane to the left and you have left turning tendencies on that right engine that are not on the centerline of the aircraft. Basically, the airplane wants to turn left more if you lose the left engine. On FS2004, did you fail the left or the right engine? It will make a difference.
Frasca is a sim manufacturer. UND uses them for Warrior, Arrow and Seminole sims. They are not full motion, so that's why the time doesn't count on the forum. :)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on April 26, 2006, 10:01:08 PM
Hmmm...where is fireflyers list?? I am sure he'll be able to add some interesting types...
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on April 26, 2006, 10:27:58 PM
Good question, Mike. I also liked his George HW Bush reference, as well.
Strategery!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Roland on April 27, 2006, 06:48:50 AM
One thing I did notice is that the Twin Star is said to have a climb-rate of up to 1700 fpm and the best singles I've seen can on average give maybe 1000-1100 fpm but maybe that's also wing-shape and general drag-coeffient, or is it the massive torque of the diesel-engines (I haven't looked up the "Single" Star (DA-40) yet)?
This rate of climb is magic. 1700 ft/min is the maximum on the graph in the flight manual. It COULD climb it some when, somewhere. Without fuel and no pilot on board or so.
A rough check on the performance-chart gives me a rat climb of 1500 ft/min at sea level, +25°C, 1400 kg weight as best.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Plthijnx on April 27, 2006, 01:26:14 PM
Frank, you can find an excellent explanation Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_engine) on critical engines and flight characteristics...
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: C310RCaptian on April 27, 2006, 03:04:21 PM
About critical engines….. There are actually two types of critical engines. The first being one that causes an undesirable aerodynamic effect. Such as what everyone describes. The second one is where the loss of an engine will result in a critical system failure. Example if the Left engine is only used for pressurization of the cabin, and it quits. You now lost a critical system if operating at high altitudes. Most aircraft nowadays have redundant systems so this usually isn’t a problem (unless you get into some of the larger aircraft). The Wikipedia site only put in that as a little blurb at the bottom.
When P-38 Lighting was first made it was in a world of hurt if you lost either engine. They had counter rotating props but they rotated in the wrong direction. (Inside to outside not Outside to inside) First thing most people would do with them is swap the engines.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on April 28, 2006, 02:04:21 AM
Hmmm...where is fireflyers list?? I am sure he'll be able to add some interesting types...
It ain't that exciting, but here ya go;
Aeronca Champion, Chief, L-3.---Champ was my first love.---N2914E was my baby. Beech Musketeer, Debonair, Bonanza, Baron, Duke, D-18, King Air 90, Beechliner 99. Cessna 120 through 210, 310, 337, 340, Ercoupe.---Go below 60 MPH and you find out why they don't need flaps! Interstate Cadet. Lockheed Harpoon.---almost had an orgasm when th engines started ! Mitsubishi Rice Rocket---scared the crap outa me on landing! Mooney Ranger, 201.---fun, fast and little N-3-N (Navy's Yellow Peril)---a Stearman by another name! PT-13 (Kinner powered)---not really sure if it's running right but who cares! PT-15 (Ranger powered)---Just a PT-13 with a smooth running engine. Piper J-3 cub through Comanche 260, Navajo, Chieftain, Cheyenne I. Republic T-6---biiiig cockpit, lotsa room Stearman.---puking is part of the fun! Taylorcraft---45 HP--Flight in slow motion--talk about float! Ryan Navion.---Ho-Hum but built like an anvil. Vultee Bt-13.---All the noise but none of the speed. Waco UPF-7.---Trucklike describes handling.
Not all were PIC.................
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on April 28, 2006, 03:21:48 AM
OH YEAH, "Critical engine" is the one you wish was running but it ain't---either side or either end! ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on April 28, 2006, 04:26:35 PM
Thank you very much, that was some great info on the critical engine subject, and an interesting fact about the Lightning.
Roland: I do know that the figures of performance is totally dependant on the weather but I did think it was quite a hefty performance for a plane with two such low-power engines but 1500 still sounds nice. That description of no fuel or pilot reminds me of what my dad told me when they took trucks to be weighed for taxes or such in the old days, in the 60s I think, they took out the seats and sat on a box, took off the radiator etc. And in the 80s they said the japanese tested cars with tiny people in the car to get those fast acceleration times that no european testdriver could come close to.
Jim: That's quite the list! Does that Cessna list include a Cardinal as well? The Ercoupe isn't that the plane with mechanical auto-rudder and no manual pedals? And why doesn't it need flaps I can't quite decide on a reason? Is the Mitsubishi really called that? And why was it scary, was it unstable at landing? ROFL, now that I'm writting this I just noticed that you said Puking about the Stearman, I thought you wrote Parking LOL
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on April 28, 2006, 06:05:55 PM
DAYUM Jim!
What do you mean not exciting? I've never heard about half the planes on your list (I am a mainly rotor head though so forgive me...) I like the little notes you put with the types, kinda proves you didn't make this up ;D
Would you mind if I use: "All the noise but none of the speed" for ChickenWings somewhere down the line? That's pretty funny!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Roland on April 28, 2006, 07:17:56 PM
Jim: That's quite the list! Does that Cessna list include a Cardinal as well? The Ercoupe isn't that the plane with mechanical auto-rudder and no manual pedals? And why doesn't it need flaps I can't quite decide on a reason? Is the Mitsubishi really called that? And why was it scary, was it unstable at landing? ROFL, now that I'm writting this I just noticed that you said Puking about the Stearman, I thought you wrote Parking LOL
Frank
Yes Frank, I meant everything from 120 through 210. As to the Ercoupe, it was built to be stall/spin proof and anytime you get slowed up (below 60 MPH) the sink rate becomes pretty impressive because of aerodynamics and drag---matter of fact, if you're on final, it becomes REAL IMPRESSIVE! (something akin to pushing the down button on an express elevator) It's a fun airplane, the engine installation is angled to compensate for P-factor so it takes off nice and straight but it takes a while to get used to not having rudders.
The Mitsubishi MU-2 is a hot airplane, small wings, spoilers, big engines, and gear ala F104 style, and when you come blasting over the fence on a fairly small strip and set it down short with max reverse, the darn thing feels like it's wobbling around a lot on it's soft suspension---I didn't get much time in them because I went to work for another company that was using Beech 99s. The nickname "Rice Rocket" is a rather uncomplimentry one for an airplane that actually is a good performer. The puking comment was about my one and only flight in the Stearman--tried to out-macho the owner doing aerobatics---didn't work!!!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on April 28, 2006, 09:59:19 PM
Would you mind if I use: "All the noise but none of the speed" for ChickenWings somewhere down the line? That's pretty funny!
Mike, knock yourself out---That's just the best way I could describe the BT. Justman Flying Service bought one in 1962 and put it on the line for dual only flights at 21 bucks an hour, we would fly over Petaluma on Saturday mornings with the prop in fine pitch and people would come out to the airport in droves just to see what the hell all the racket was about. Sounds like a T-6 snarling overhead but you're only moving about 120 MPH or so.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on April 28, 2006, 10:33:29 PM
I can tell you what I have NOT flown so far:
I haven't flown my Long Ranger any closer to home today!! :D HA HA :D
I am stuck in Elk City, Oklahoma after departing just west of Little Rock, Arkansas. Made it about 2.5hrs closer but had to eventually give up because of severe weather. But I found an airport with a hangar and a nice hotel. Those things are important, you don't want to have a $600,000 aircraft sit outside in a Tornado with hail and stuff... Maybe I'll have more luck tomorrow. Had to make the NO-GO decision today although it'll delay me for almost a day. (Let this be a lesson to you young guys in case you read this...)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on April 29, 2006, 12:41:57 AM
ELK CITY!!!!
Talk about being in the armpit of nowhere.......... :-X
Oil patch company I used to fly for had a rental center there---I spent a few lonely nights in that hole! :'(
Elk City is one of those places caught by the "Blue Laws" (or used to be) in that part of the world. Used to be, you couldn't go to a bar and just order a drink, You had to go to a state liquor store, buy a bottle which you would then take (unopened) to the bar where they would put your name on it and hold it for you. If you wanted a drink, you would the pay the bar to pour YOUR liquor into a glass of whatever mix you wanted----weird HUH? ??? Feel free to ask for a drink of my Tanguery gin---yeah, fat chance it'll still be there.
Last time I was there, February 1983 I believe, It was like minus 8 degrees F with a 30 knot wind blowing and I had to tip the line guys 40 bucks to preheat my engines, one at a time-----I started the left one first and had to sit in an unheated airplane while they did the right one, like to froze my butt off !
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on April 29, 2006, 01:54:20 AM
no minus 8 degrees but the 30kts winds still seem to be here. Tipped a guy 30 bucks to get my aircraft in a hangar... ..seems like times haven't changed much....
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on April 29, 2006, 12:43:42 PM
Ah so it was the MU-2, I've seen that a few times before and thought it looked interesting, I just googled it and found a picture of the gear and I can see the problem. It does sound interesting. Interesting about the Ercoupe and LOL at the stuntflying :D
Mike: My utmost respect for your decision to stay put instead of taking a great risk flying in bad weather |:)\ I know that many times delays have consequences, but rushing and taking chances you're (any person not just you Mike) are not sure will be safe that can have even greater consequences, at least that's how I make decisions also when driving and I'm still crash-free.
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Sleek-Jet on April 29, 2006, 05:30:58 PM
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on April 29, 2006, 07:53:42 PM
Oh crap--I hate to make corrections, I forgot about 190/195s---I've not flown one either.
But I did fantasize about it one time when Flying had a centerfold 195 and I was reading in bed and Mom walked in just then.........OOPS, I think I said too much.........
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on April 30, 2006, 05:24:16 AM
Elk City is one of those places caught by the "Blue Laws" (or used to be) in that part of the world. Used to be, you couldn't go to a bar and just order a drink, You had to go to a state liquor store, buy a bottle which you would then take (unopened) to the bar where they would put your name on it and hold it for you. If you wanted a drink, you would the pay the bar to pour YOUR liquor into a glass of whatever mix you wanted----weird HUH? ??? Feel free to ask for a drink of my Tanguery gin---yeah, fat chance it'll still be there.
ND has those, too. Not quite as bad as that, but you if you want to buy almost anything besides food or gas on Sunday, you have to wait until noon. From what I understand, the Blue Laws used to be similar to what you described, though. Until 2004, we didn't have a state lottery. Lawmakers (and a majority of the public) didn't think the government should sponsor that kind of "sinful" activity, even though the Native tribes all have casinos and the state lost millions each year to MN, SD, and MT.
Another interesting law....Until just a few years ago, it was still legal to shoot an Indian from the back of a covered wagon, but only as long as he was a member of a "war party", which is three or more Native Americans in a group. The law has since been repealed.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Sleek-Jet on April 30, 2006, 02:40:03 PM
I can't believe I forgot this (or the fact I'm going to admit it on a public forum)...
But I ommited the beloved and much maligned Piper Tri-Pacer... ;D
I've got about 50 hours worth of 3 Pacer time in the logs. |:)\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on April 30, 2006, 02:47:46 PM
Tri-Pacer, lol that's a cute little thing, I think it was such one that the ATC gave my brother a ride in a short while before we got the Cardinal ride with the president of the flyingclub arranged (of course the ATC wasn't on duty when he gave my brother the quick ride). My brother said that besides being bumped around from the gusting winds then it was really narrow and my brother is really narrow and thin unlike me and he had to sit twisted to give shoudler-room to the pilot and there was agreement from all that I couldn't be able to sit in that plane as a passenger.
About the Trinidad then I always confuse that with a Commander when I drive by the parkinglot at Roskilde Airport which has one of the GA ramps right on the other side of the fence. It's especially the fastback low wing shape with the swooping rear sidewindows that trick me but at a standstill it's easy to tell them apart. The Commander is generally more muscular and besides the retractable gear that most Trinidad's don't have, at least not the ones in the fleet of the FBO's at EKRK then it has the mid-placed tail as opposed to the outsticking low tail of the Trinidad, like the Cardinal has compared to the Skylane/Skyhawk too come to think of it.
Mike did you ever find that log-book of sling-wings you've flown? Have you ever flown a Gazelle?
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on April 30, 2006, 04:21:01 PM
I can't believe I forgot this (or the fact I'm going to admit it on a public forum)...
But I ommited the beloved and much maligned Piper Tri-Pacer... ;D
Sleek, you are correct about Tri Pacers being much maligned, I've flown them at max gross, in and out of some pretty small fields and found them to be a very capable and honest handling airplane. I've got a friend (can you believe that?) who has an immaculately converted Tri to Pacer model with a 160 HP engine and it's not only beautiful but performs well too. But even the stock Tri Pacers can be made to look good and don't need to take a backseat to anything else in it's class. The flaps are an excercise of futility, I mean when you reduce power and slow them up, they come down like an anvil anyway! To fly one is to love one. |:)\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on April 30, 2006, 04:26:19 PM
OH, and btw Frank, I'm a pretty big ole boy myself and I've flown them with an equally big ole boy sitting next to me and although you might consider the seating somewhat close, it's workable. ;) Ya'll ever get by this way, I'll try to arrange a ride for you.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Sleek-Jet on April 30, 2006, 04:51:43 PM
Ya'll ever get by this way, I'll try to arrange a ride for you.
It's not for lack of wanting I'm not already in Calfornia. As long as my health can handle it then I wouldn't mind at all learning about planes besides Commanders and Cardinals. I'm interested in learning about different ways of building things and in aviation there are a lot more things to make for each vehicle so a lot of different gizmos to study. The Ercoupe sounds interesting too.
Sleek: Really funny note about the flaps flapping in the wind :D I did thought those could be locked like the main controls?
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Sleek-Jet on April 30, 2006, 11:40:37 PM
The flaps in a Tri-Pacer are actuated by a simple cable system, that pulls them down. They are held up by airpressure and a spring while the airplane is in the air. While it's on the ground, it's just the spring. When the airplane is parked down wind, the flaps can get pushed down by a good stiff breeze, then of course will slam back up when the breeze quits. The best solution is to put an external control lock on each wing. The poor boy way is to leave the flaps in the full down postition, and try to park into the wind.
Oh yeah, there is no control lock on the airplane either. Most people tie the yoke down with one of the seat-belts. ;D |:)\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on May 01, 2006, 06:18:05 PM
Frank, the flaps on Tri Pacer are just spring loaded in the "up" position.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Zaffex on May 13, 2006, 12:43:20 AM
Get ready, the list will shock you with its immense capacity...
1. Cessna 172K
and that's pretty much it. Shocking, isn't it? ;D Well, I did ride in a helicopter at the county fair, but I don't remember what kind of craft it was. Hopefully I'll be able to come back someday soon and expand on this list some. Stay 'tuned for that day!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fliboye on May 13, 2006, 05:41:15 PM
The List is Long and Distiguished ( what movie was this??)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on May 14, 2006, 03:38:23 AM
Hey Mike, I didn't know there was many helicopter models--- :D I'm impressed!
Guys, I think we got us another freightdog----FLIBOYE has Mootoo, Caravan, and Metro time!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on May 14, 2006, 04:04:32 AM
freight dogs are cool . . . ;D
I hope he'll share some stories.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on May 14, 2006, 03:46:20 PM
Freightdogs (one word) always have great stories but whenever we start to relate them, people get that "OH, BS" look on their faces! ::)
Kinda like the look people get when we start telling fire stories----I'm sure you know what I mean Mike. These are two segments of aviation that most folks never get to see and that makes it hard for them to visualize some of the 'interesting' scenarios. ;)
Fliboye, come on down and tell us about yourself. |:)\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Zaffex on May 14, 2006, 08:39:29 PM
Most people don't get to see ANY segment of aviation, except the passenger seats of commercial airliners!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on May 15, 2006, 03:30:24 AM
Most people don't get to see ANY segment of aviation, except the passenger seats of commercial airliners!
Well said. If I had a dollar for every time I started to explain something about my job and then gave up half way inbetween with an "you had to be there, I guess".... I'd have a lot of dollars... ;)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: piet03 on May 16, 2006, 07:47:21 PM
Uhm... C 150,152,172,182,177 Grumman AA-1B,AA-5, Piper 140,180, Paro ,Stinson Reliant, Mousekateer ,Th 55, Oh 58, Ah-1 Oh and a Pietenpol
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on May 17, 2006, 03:24:03 AM
STINSON RELIANT?---PIETENPOL? HEY, those are neat airplanes! |:)\ What engine was in the Pietenpol??? OH, and what's a "PARO"?
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on May 17, 2006, 03:47:47 AM
what in the world is a PIETENPOL? (how do you even pronounce that?) I'd like to see that. Any pictures?
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: piet03 on May 17, 2006, 12:53:11 PM
The reliant was fun but it flies like a Mack truck. Worth it when you taxi in though. Paro= piperArrow . Pietenpol (pete en pole) a great little plane, single engine tail draggin ragwing one wing up on struts (parasol)The first plans built on the market. As I recall the one I flew had an old Franklin.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fliboye on May 17, 2006, 12:58:39 PM
PARO a T- tailed piper arrow or something the earth repulses because it is not really an arrow due to the tail being out of the propwash, and it wont fly till------------------------------ its darn well ready :P pietpol uh idunno something the green giant and sprout made up???
P.S. frieght dogs rock and we don't go missed heheheheh 8)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: happylanding on May 22, 2006, 09:56:38 PM
Not much til now, but it is a list that must grow.... Cessna C152 Piper PA28 Pilatus P3 Cyrrus SR22 ................no more :(
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on May 22, 2006, 11:39:54 PM
The reliant was fun but it flies like a Mack truck. Worth it when you taxi in though. Paro= piperArrow . Pietenpol (pete en pole) a great little plane, single engine tail draggin ragwing one wing up on struts (parasol)The first plans built on the market. As I recall the one I flew had an old Franklin.
Yep, that's a Pietenpol alright. |:)\ The design came out for homebuilders in the 1920s, I believe, and the first ones used the then ubiquitous Ford Model T engine. Performance was pretty anemic and the engine tended to overheat which was of great concern because the radiator was placed high and in front of the pilot---power must have been about 40 HP, and this from a 400 LB engine! I have never been fortunate enough to have seen one in person, much less fly it. :'(
PARO a T- tailed piper arrow or something the earth repulses because it is not really an arrow due to the tail being out of the propwash, and it wont fly till------------------------------ its darn well ready :P pietpol uh idunno something the green giant and sprout made up???
P.S. frieght dogs rock and we don't go missed heheheheh 8)
fliboye--know what you mean---I remember one dark night when Portland OR was calling 600 RVR and I held at the outer marker (tower knew what I was doing) ::) till an Evergreen DC-8 took off--RVR lifted (momentarily)-they called it and cleared me for the approach before it went back down and another ontime UPS delivery was made. Gotta love an airplane big enough to raise the visibility!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Michael Siegel on May 23, 2006, 04:27:58 PM
Title: Have you guys ever seen this?
Post by: Mike on May 26, 2006, 04:18:40 AM
Have any of you guys ever seen one of these planes? It's called a SF-25 "Motorfalke" and that's what I soloed in many years ago... (nice color, huh?!)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Skygal on May 26, 2006, 06:38:42 AM
Mike is that you on the wing and where was the picture taken ???
Never seen the A/C before either---engine type size?
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Stef on May 26, 2006, 08:27:35 AM
Haha! Yup, that sure is Mike! Hey, Mike, how old where you when the picture was taken? 18? I remember how cool it was, when I was taken for a ride in this thing! Cool, but very shaky when it was windy... Still glad you had this little plastic bag with you that one day... ;D
Title: Re: Have you guys ever seen this?
Post by: Sleek-Jet on May 26, 2006, 01:44:26 PM
Have any of you guys ever seen one of these planes? It's called a SF-25 "Motorfalke" and that's what I soloed in many years ago... (nice color, huh?!)
Nice haircut... ;D ;D ;D |:)\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on May 26, 2006, 03:32:55 PM
Yup, that sure is me 12 or so years ago when I was still in school and an aviation nerd. My "long hair" phase ended when I joined the military and found out how convenient short hair actually is, heh heh....
The engine is an actual aircooled VW engine from the original VW "Beetle" (the one with the split rear windows) which was converted slightly to fit the aircraft. 25hp max! Good times....good times....
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on May 27, 2006, 12:23:38 AM
GOOD Grief Mike--25 HP, Wow, the smallest engine I've ever flown behind was a 40 horse T-craft. When you apply full power it's kind of like wishful thinking and a high speed pass down the runway was a sight to behold---for quite a while because it took so long! :-\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Roland on May 27, 2006, 04:42:47 PM
Gees, Mike. What a picture! :D
Ladies and gentlemen, in the rear background of this picture you can se the former company of Diamond. “HOAC”. And the hangars are fife times bigger and longer by now. 12 years is that you say Mike? Never! This must be older. This area in the rear has changed an awful lot. Good to see the “old times”.
And this ugly plain is still flying … It has no power lever but a fuel-to-noise converter lever. If you push the lever in the plane becomes louder. That is all. ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on May 27, 2006, 10:33:08 PM
LOL, is that the plane that was called having Mousepower instead of Horsepower? One of the US magazines I have a few issues of have a page shown headlines from various vintages in the past and one of them was such a thing with a 25 mouspower VW engine, and that almost has to be it. I have to agree with Roland though, if that's just 12 years ago then that's incredible, and here I'm especially thinking of those 6000+ flying hours!
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on May 28, 2006, 03:01:21 AM
Uhmm..yeah...doing the math it's more 14-15 years actually. You're right. Do you recognize the shirt Roland? It has a red Huey on it....
In a way I am kind of glad this one still flying. Oh, the memories.... ;)
@Frank: 6000+ hours comes from flying 600 to 800 hours a year for the last ten years. And it's all REAL hands-on flight time with an average of 4 landings per flight hour (as compared to watching a computer fly you across the atlantic and then maybe make a landing if you don't feel like using autoland...)
Yeah 25hp is pretty exciting going down the runway forever bouncing up and down on that single wheel.... But hey, I was a young kid and I was flying! Nothing else mattered at the time (plus you learn a lot about using and conserving minimum power...) I am still utilizing my sailplane knowledge for my mountain helicopter flights belive it or not.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on May 28, 2006, 03:23:21 PM
Yeah 25hp is pretty exciting going down the runway forever bouncing up and down on that single wheel.... But hey, I was a young kid and I was flying! Nothing else mattered at the time (plus you learn a lot about using and conserving minimum power...) I am still utilizing my sailplane knowledge for my mountain helicopter flights belive it or not.
You are absolutely right, it's nice to have lots of power to get your butt out of trouble but learning to fly low power aircraft REALLY teaches you flight management! |:)\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Roland on May 28, 2006, 08:24:15 PM
AAAAH! That T-shirt, now I recognise it. That is out of a time where we thought that the aviation industry is waiting for us. Let me try to find that Huey and I will post it here.
The secret behind getting this thing airborne is the strong wind here in Wiener Neustadt ;)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Stef on May 29, 2006, 11:05:30 PM
AAAAH! That T-shirt, now I recognise it. That is out of a time where we thought that the aviation industry is waiting for us. Let me try to find that Huey and I will post it here.
Hey, I recognize it too!!! If I remember it right, I think I did the colors on it... Wow, I almost forgot for just how long my artistic skills are already been exploited by my brother! ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on May 30, 2006, 03:48:26 AM
AAAAH! That T-shirt, now I recognise it. That is out of a time where we thought that the aviation industry is waiting for us. Let me try to find that Huey and I will post it here.
Hey, I recognize it too!!! If I remember it right, I think I did the colors on it... Wow, I almost forgot for just how long my artistic skills are already been exploited by my brother! ;) ;D ;D
Hey! >:(
Doesn't your brother pay for the beer everytime we go out? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on May 30, 2006, 08:04:46 AM
AAAAH! That T-shirt, now I recognise it. That is out of a time where we thought that the aviation industry is waiting for us. Let me try to find that Huey and I will post it here.
Hey, I recognize it too!!! If I remember it right, I think I did the colors on it... Wow, I almost forgot for just how long my artistic skills are already been exploited by my brother! ;) ;D ;D
Hey! >:(
Doesn't your brother pay for the beer everytime we go out? ;D ;D ;D
Stef, does he really buy the beer---I don't recall him springing for a round in Winemmucca last year?
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Stef on May 30, 2006, 09:58:31 AM
Stef, does he really buy the beer---I don't recall him springing for a round in Winemmucca last year?
Yes he does! Most of the time... I assume that even with a pilot's salary it's hard to afford enough beer to satisfy a horde of thirsty firefighters!! ::)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: SteepTurn on May 30, 2006, 11:02:11 AM
Hy guys and girls!!
it's a little embarrassing, after all this quite long lists. Anyway, I'll put in mine as well:
-> Triumph Thunderbird Sport (ok, it's a motorbike which isn't intended to fly with... anyway, I did it!! For about 2 sec, I suppose :-\) ..no happy landing!!!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on May 30, 2006, 11:32:20 PM
Stef, does he really buy the beer---I don't recall him springing for a round in Winemmucca last year?
Yes he does! Most of the time... I assume that even with a pilot's salary it's hard to afford enough beer to satisfy a horde of thirsty firefighters!! ::)
No worries about the hordes of thirsty firefighters---they go to upscale bars while we pilots look for the real rat hole dives (to avoid buying them drinks) ::)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on May 31, 2006, 02:47:41 AM
Stef, does he really buy the beer---I don't recall him springing for a round in Winemmucca last year?
Yes he does! Most of the time... I assume that even with a pilot's salary it's hard to afford enough beer to satisfy a horde of thirsty firefighters!! ::)
No worries about the hordes of thirsty firefighters---they go to upscale bars while we pilots look for the real rat hole dives (to avoid buying them drinks) ::)
If I remember that right, you stuck wing guys still make more money than us rotorheads... ...but I am not bitter. (yeah right :()
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on May 31, 2006, 02:49:25 AM
-> Triumph Thunderbird Sport (ok, it's a motorbike which isn't intended to fly with... anyway, I did it!! For about 2 sec, I suppose :-\) ..no happy landing!!!
Not embarassing at all. We welcome everybody.
I don't have any time in a Pilatus P3 nor do I even know how one looks like....
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Turbomallard on May 31, 2006, 03:10:02 AM
Cessna 150, Cessna 152, Cessna 172 (various sub-types), PA-28-140, PA-28-180, Piper Warrior, Piper Archer, Mooney 201, Cessna 172 RG, Navion, Citabria, Pitts S-2B, S-2C, Great Lakes, Twin Commander, Piper Arrow, DA-20 Eclipse, DA-40 Diamond Star (G1000), Cessna 182, Sonex, 737-200 (two hours sim time at United... if that counts), NYP.
TM
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on May 31, 2006, 09:03:35 AM
Cessna 150, Cessna 152, Cessna 172 (various sub-types), PA-28-140, PA-28-180, Piper Warrior, Piper Archer, Mooney 201, Cessna 172 RG, Navion, Citabria, Pitts S-2B, S-2C, Great Lakes, Twin Commander, Piper Arrow, DA-20 Eclipse, DA-40 Diamond Star (G1000), Cessna 182, Sonex, 737-200 (two hours sim time at United... if that counts), NYP.
TM
GEEZ TM, I've got a tiny bit of time in a sonex---had to remove the upholstery and fly it in my stocking feet just to be able get in--and I'm here to tell ya it's the most pitch sensitive airplane I've ever flown, a sneeze would surely have been an aerobatic maneuver---never flown a Pitts though--don't know if I'm good enough (yeah right--false modesty--big ego---typical pilot---"Hell, I can fly the box it came in"!)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: SteepTurn on May 31, 2006, 09:43:17 AM
-> Triumph Thunderbird Sport (ok, it's a motorbike which isn't intended to fly with... anyway, I did it!! For about 2 sec, I suppose :-\) ..no happy landing!!!
Not embarassing at all. We welcome everybody.
I don't have any time in a Pilatus P3 nor do I even know how one looks like....
...then have a look at www.p3flyers.ch
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fliboye on June 02, 2006, 04:50:24 PM
in addition to all the rest we have the Shorts 33 more affectionately known as the box the Metro came in. and no you cant look up in my shorts hehhe LOL. ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: FB41 on June 09, 2006, 04:55:08 PM
Hi Folks... This is my first posting in this forum. Hope it doesn't sound boastful. ;D
Aero (Twin)Commander AC500 A & B AC560 A AC560 E & F AC680
Aeronca AC7 Champ
Beech BE24 Sierra BE55 Baron 55 BE77 Skipper V35 V-Tail Bonanza BE58 Baron 58 BE76 Duchess BE90 King Air 90
Cessna 150, Cessna 152, Cessna 172 (various sub-types), PA-28-140, PA-28-180, Piper Warrior, Piper Archer, Mooney 201, Cessna 172 RG, Navion, Citabria, Pitts S-2B, S-2C, Great Lakes, Twin Commander, Piper Arrow, DA-20 Eclipse, DA-40 Diamond Star (G1000), Cessna 182, Sonex, 737-200 (two hours sim time at United... if that counts), NYP.
TM
What did you think of the Navion? My brother-in-law is thinking of buying one.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Turbomallard on June 18, 2006, 04:56:09 AM
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What did you think of the Navion? My brother-in-law is thinking of buying one.
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I only did three flights/three hours in one and it was about six years ago. I enjoyed it, but it's a design of it's time with some things that we would consider a little unusual today (e.g., the gear switch protection system, hydraulic flaps that have two positions-- up and 45 degrees... and they go down in a snap and throw you forward in the plane). Getting parts can also be an adventure. But, in a nutshell, it reminded me of a 1960s car: Huge, built like a tank, fuel economy be damned. Not sure I'd want one, but that's just a matter of personal preference... I enjoyed the hell out of flying it.
TM
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on June 18, 2006, 05:05:28 AM
Cool. Thanks.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on June 21, 2006, 02:18:03 AM
What did you think of the Navion? My brother-in-law is thinking of buying one.
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I only did three flights/three hours in one and it was about six years ago. I enjoyed it, but it's a design of it's time with some things that we would consider a little unusual today (e.g., the gear switch protection system, hydraulic flaps that have two positions-- up and 45 degrees... and they go down in a snap and throw you forward in the plane). Getting parts can also be an adventure. But, in a nutshell, it reminded me of a 1960s car: Huge, built like a tank, fuel economy be damned. Not sure I'd want one, but that's just a matter of personal preference... I enjoyed the hell out of flying it.
Ditto on everting TM says but that rock-solid handling translates to rock heavy climd ;D A real nice performer of basicly the same desig (actually considered a screamer by some) is the Meyers 200---all the solidness with no vices. Of course it's more money---eh, what else is new? :-\
TM
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: ZAIZAI on July 04, 2006, 11:16:45 AM
In chronological order (I think):
DC-10 (No idea what actual type as I was 10 at the time and the flight crew came and asked if I wanted to sit the flight out in the front after my first visit to the cockpit...)
DHC-Twin-Otter, "SE-KOK" Now in Chicago under new tail number... C-206 (the caravan one...) C-130 (Not sure I am allowed to talk about it...) Antonov AN-2 (~5 hours) Britten-Norman Islander (~20 hours) Shorts Skyvan (~5 hours) SAAB 91 Safir
Most of my flying experience is regarding to skydiving and sitting in the rear as a Jump Master (Cargo/Load master for you strict flying types) but from time to time I had the opportunity to help the pilots (refueling, food, drink or just ferry buddy). That is how I ended up in the cockpit from time to time, being friendly to the jump pilots. Why the C-130 Cmdr let me hold the stick for a while is a bit unclear to me but running through his empty cargohold screaming "Tax Refund!" and jumping off at 15 000 feet might have something to do with it...
What do you guys think, should I go and start my PPL??? Problem is I have driven a lot of twins not sure I would be comfortable with a single...and I hate taxiing.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Plthijnx on July 04, 2006, 02:53:05 PM
...but running through his empty cargohold screaming "Tax Refund!" and jumping off at 15 000 feet might have something to do with it...
That was me running through his hull not the pilot, the para troopers being jump masters at the time was face down on the deck wriggling with laughter as I ran past them...
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on July 08, 2006, 01:39:34 PM
Ah sorry, I must've read too fast but that makes more sense. But did you get to hold the controls before or after the jump (after the jump of course menaing on another flight), I also noted it said empty cargohold, but para troopers laughing, it confused me a little. But it sounds like fun nevertheless |:)\
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: STL206 on July 09, 2006, 05:37:22 PM
Airplanes:
Cessna 152 Aeronca Champ J-3 Cub
Helicopters:
R22 B and BII R44 R and RII BHT 206 BIII and LI Enstrom 280C
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: ZAIZAI on July 10, 2006, 09:32:06 AM
Ah sorry, I must've read too fast but that makes more sense. But did you get to hold the controls before or after the jump (after the jump of course menaing on another flight), I also noted it said empty cargohold, but para troopers laughing, it confused me a little. But it sounds like fun nevertheless |:)\
Frank
...Well two paratroopers and me in the back of a C-130 usually means the hold is pretty empty. Sure one of them is a bit on the chubby side but not that large (hope like h*/l he is not reading this or I'm in trouble). Yea on the ferry flight back to base I was allowed to hold the thing level and make a turn, just for a few minutes though as the crew would get into trouble if anyone "important" found out...
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: cotejy on August 02, 2006, 05:55:59 PM
Wow, I'm impress by your lists guys! As not commercial yet, my list is verry short:
C-150 C-172 Piper Aztec ___________
Someday, I have to add the DeHavilland Beaver to that list. I went fishing with this flying truck (as a passenger) and I was verry impress by the takeoff caracteristics.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on August 03, 2006, 11:29:22 PM
Wow, I'm impress by your lists guys! As not commercial yet, my list is verry short:
C-150 C-172 Piper Aztec ___________
Someday, I have to add the DeHavilland Beaver to that list. I went fishing with this flying truck (as a passenger) and I was verry impress by the takeoff caracteristics.
Hey your list is already longer than the one of most pedestrians out there! I am sure it'll grow.... ;)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: kkrummy1 on August 07, 2006, 12:22:32 PM
HI Guys, Here's another short list.
C 150 C 152 C 172 C 182 C TR182RG C T206 C Skymaster 337 Beech Bonanza V-Tail Beech Musketeer Beech Baron Piper Cherokee 235 Mooney 231
Not a bad assortment I guess for only having 300 hrs.
KK
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: BrianGMFS on August 29, 2006, 01:36:11 AM
Well I'm the noobie in here (my first post) and not a pilot..... But I have flown a Cherokee 140, Cessna 140, 150 and 172. Also I'm a line service tech for a busy Aircraft maintnance and 135 charter outfit in Vermont so I tow dang near anything that comes in our shop.. from j-3's to Challengers.
Brian
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on August 29, 2006, 03:35:39 AM
Well I'm the noobie in here (my first post) and not a pilot..... But I have flown a Cherokee 140, Cessna 140, 150 and 172. Also I'm a line service tech for a busy Aircraft maintnance and 135 charter outfit in Vermont so I tow dang near anything that comes in our shop.. from j-3's to Challengers.
Brian
Don't need to have a license to be an asset on this board, just the love for aviation |:)\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: happylanding on August 29, 2006, 10:53:17 AM
Welcome to the forum Brian and tell us more about yourself! |:)\ |:)\ |:)\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: switchtech on August 30, 2006, 03:01:55 AM
So far, only the Cessna 150 (but 6 different 150's!)
jbs
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: cj5_pilot on August 31, 2006, 01:18:25 AM
Logbook time:
C-150M C-152 C-172N SNJ-5 (T-6 Texan--"J-bird" from Kevin Kegan's American Warbird--aerobatic time!)
Unlogged time:
PA-18-180 (Wheels, skis and floats) PA-28-140 PA-32-300 C-46 Commando C-150C (the Tundra Toy) C-182 C-206 DHC-2 Beaver GCBC Citabria
There are some other types I've flown (handled the controls for a minute) but those are the main ones. I don't think the 30 seconds in the Herc count or the A-10 simulater :P
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on August 31, 2006, 01:56:10 AM
30 seconds in a HERC!!!!----LOG IT YOU FOOL!!, Heck, I'll sign off the dual for ya ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Baradium on August 31, 2006, 02:51:05 AM
C-150 C-152 C-172 C-172RG C-182 PA-28R-201 (arrow) PA-28-140 (cherokees, one with 160 hp conversion) PA-28-180 (cherokee 180) PA-18 (supercub on wheels) PA-44 (seminole) CJ-6a (only an hour total, but it's cool, chinese yak) BE-1900C Beech 1900 airliner BE-1900C-F (1900 freighter)
The two Beeches are SIC time...
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on August 31, 2006, 09:38:56 AM
Wow, there are really a big collection of planes there you guys. I'm really beginning to think that planes are better than cars, and not just since there aren't tailgaters in the air! |:)\
A Herc, that's not a bad machine, I actually saw one fly low some weeks ago, I think it was one of our owns (RDAF), and what kind of A-10 Sim are we talking, A-10 Tank Killer II on a good old Amiga 500 or a real pro one? :D
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: cj5_pilot on August 31, 2006, 02:23:29 PM
Wow, there are really a big collection of planes there you guys. I'm really beginning to think that planes are better than cars, and not just since there aren't tailgaters in the air! |:)\
A Herc, that's not a bad machine, I actually saw one fly low some weeks ago, I think it was one of our owns (RDAF), and what kind of A-10 Sim are we talking, A-10 Tank Killer II on a good old Amiga 500 or a real pro one? :D
Frank
I love C-130s :) Ridden all over Alaska in one years ago..how I got the 30 seconds of time :P The ones based at Kulis in Anchorage seem to use my house as a checkpoint on the way in...they always make their turns right overhead! Even more impressive when the C-17 does it!! The A-10 Sim was at Elmendorf Air Force Base waaayyy back in the mid-eighties when I was a CAP Cadet. Even let me shoot at a simulated tank with the GAU-8 :P
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: BrianGMFS on September 01, 2006, 02:51:37 AM
I get Herks shooting touch and go's almost every day at work... The NY Air Guard has a squadron outside of Albany that has C-130's on Skis for use supporting the Antarctic bases... They fly up to Burlington because the airspace isn't as busy at KBTV than it is around Albany. We call em' the "Ski-130's". We also get P-3 Orion's from Brunswick NAS in Maine as well as New Hampshire and Maine Guard KC-135 Tankers. Add in the Vermont Guard's F-16's flying 2 sorties a day (4-6 jets each flight) and I get a free airshow every day I work. Plus I get all kinds of cool stuff coming onto my ramp for customs (we shareramp space with US Customs) a few weeks ago I had one of only 3 still airworthy Lockheed model 10 Electra's (owned by Air Canada), I also get lots of nice homebuilts, new delivery Challenger Biz Jets, Global Expresses, CRJ's and Bell Helo's (Bell and Bombardier have plants in Montreal and we're the first Customs airport heading south into the US) My shop also does alot of custom avionics work (we did a one time STC to put an autopilot in an Aviat Huskey) and we are also a Cirrus service center. Keeps me busy all day. I wear out a set of sneakers every 2 months I think.
Brian
Title: /D/C
Post by: Mic on September 02, 2006, 02:07:09 PM
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on September 02, 2006, 03:06:01 PM
WOW Mic, That's an impressive list of aircraft, I would love to get my hands on quite a few of those, especially the gliders!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: tundra_flier on September 25, 2006, 09:45:13 PM
Logged time: Antares MA-30 w/Stranger Wing Ultralight Cosmos Ultralight Antares MA-33 w/UFO wing Ultralight Citabria 7GCBC (fun plane, great visibility, got my private in it, did some entry level aerobatics) Cherokee 140/160 (great cross country and IFR plane, boring to fly) C-150C (Fun little plane, but a little cramped)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Herk Fixer on September 26, 2006, 04:26:42 PM
A decent list:
Logged time: Diamond C1 Eclipse (my primary training airplane...a real spoiler!) C152 C172N
Unlogged time: C-130H (10 minutes over Saudi Arabia) Boeing 727 (engine run and taxi qualified as A&P)
Simulators: C-130E (during engine run school) DC-8 A-10 (gee CJ5...also as a CAP cadet in the mid-eighties)
How about interesting ride-alongs?: KC-10 KC-135 C-47 (with the Airborne Reenactment Group in Frederick, OK) C-5B (on my way to the Great Sandbox) 727 (rode jumpseat on a couple of F/O upgrade flights)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: cj5_pilot on September 27, 2006, 12:47:14 AM
A-10 (gee CJ5...also as a CAP cadet in the mid-eighties)
ROFL, does have a way of shaping you, eh? ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Panzerrat on November 22, 2006, 12:22:20 AM
No PPL here, but I've got 1 hour bootleg on a T-tail Bonanza, and three hours or so in a C-150. Two 6' 2" guys jammed into a 150 isn't comfortable. It was still fun.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on November 28, 2006, 08:29:46 PM
One 6'2" guy in a 150 is too much. I'm 6'0", and had a student that was 5'10" or so. We overloaded the 152 trainer with full tanks.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Panzerrat on November 29, 2006, 11:32:10 PM
If the driver needed the yoke, I had to put my feet on the rudder pedals, and vice versa. Once we got up, and he got the throttle where he wanted it, I could splay me knees a bit. There wasn't a full tank, but we must h ave been near the limit.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: want2fly on December 01, 2006, 10:24:31 PM
with only having flown about 25 hours ive only flown two types of aircraft a c-152 and a piper warrior.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on December 02, 2006, 01:50:29 AM
with only having flown about 25 hours ive only flown two types of aircraft a c-152 and a piper warrior.
Which one do you like better?
Ditto question. I have 60 or so all in various C150/C152 and no low wing. So, what kit am I looking to build? A low wing Zenith Zodiac XL!
jbs
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on December 05, 2006, 03:36:33 AM
Speaking of Cessna 150/152s I heard a new excerpt online of Rod Machado's lectures (from his website) and it mentioned maneuvering speed and safety and asked if people there knew their plane's speed and what power setting was needed and he said it varied from plane to plane, and with weight, but it was easy in a Cessna 150 because even with full power you're still under max maneuvering speed lol. Another earlier joke of his on the topic was a C150 pilot calling ATC asking if they had a ground speed reading on him, and the ATC answered: just barely lol.
How do those kitplanes mentioned fly compared to a smaller Cessna for instance? Is it more unstable or does that vary from design to design as I would expect?
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on December 05, 2006, 09:06:21 PM
How do those kitplanes mentioned fly compared to a smaller Cessna for instance? Is it more unstable or does that vary from design to design as I would expect?
Depends on how well they're built. :D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: switchtech on December 06, 2006, 01:35:44 AM
How do those kitplanes mentioned fly compared to a smaller Cessna for instance? Is it more unstable or does that vary from design to design as I would expect? Frank
Like Gulfstream Driver said - depends!
The Zodiac XL should be roughly comparable. It should be a little faster and more responsive, so it will be a little more challenging to fly. But it's still a fairly stable design, assuming it's well built, and by all accounts makes for a great Light Sport Aircraft (and since I'll be going for a Light Sport Pilot's license - it'll be a good match :) . My plan is to build it well, of course! :o
But first I'll go to the work shop and make sure I can build it well!
jbs
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: FlyboyGil on December 09, 2006, 12:27:00 AM
What I have flown
Piper Warrior (unlogged) Piper Cherokee(unlogged) Pretend Flight In a Lancaster Bomber. (It was stuck to the plinth at the time, so it had problems getting airborne!!) C 172 Alot of training in that one N.A. Harvard (Texan) for about 20 minutes. I took control, and was able to log the time! C 180 float plane. Float flying is fun!!
My first official lesson or lesson #1 was in C-172 on 9/11. Regardless to say, I didn't go up that day. Even here in Canada, our airspace was closed for the week. I was in Thunder Bay at the time, and there was alot of static airplanes at the terminal.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: digits on January 06, 2007, 05:57:02 PM
hi,
my verrrrry big impressive list:
HR20 (PIC) R300 (Dual) R200 (Dual, aco)
greetings, digits
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on January 06, 2007, 09:02:20 PM
R300 = Robin 3000 (4 seats) (http://www.propeller.be/img/vliegtuigen/oofwa/1.jpg)
R200 = Robin 2000 (2 seats, acro) (http://www.propeller.be/img/vliegtuigen/oojbo/6.jpg)
so, no exotic planes ;)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on January 06, 2007, 10:23:02 PM
Wow I was actually right for a change :D Actually to most of us then Robins probably are exotic ::rofl:: They do look nice though :) The 4-seater, is that the one formerly/also known as the 400DR or something like that? The one with the bent outer wing-tips for better low-speed control?
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: digits on January 06, 2007, 10:27:47 PM
Wow I was actually right for a change :D Actually to most of us then Robins probably are exotic ::rofl:: They do look nice though :) The 4-seater, is that the one formerly/also known as the 400DR or something like that? The one with the bent outer wing-tips for better low-speed control?
Frank
i don't know about the 400DR, but it has wingtips indeed. don't know whay :D i'll try to take them off next time and see what happens ::) ::cowboy::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: happylanding on January 06, 2007, 10:42:40 PM
Wow I was actually right for a change :D Actually to most of us then Robins probably are exotic ::rofl:: They do look nice though :) The 4-seater, is that the one formerly/also known as the 400DR or something like that? The one with the bent outer wing-tips for better low-speed control?
Frank
Did you mean winglets, Frank? Winglets reduce induced drag (drag created by lift), and actually produce a thrust vector, slightly increasing true airspeed. They're pretty cool, actually.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on January 08, 2007, 06:02:20 PM
Well I don't think they can go under the term winglets but here's a picture of a DR400 so you can see for yourself, and yes winglets are great, I just don't think it's possible to fit some on my dreamplanes sadly.
Well I don't think they can go under the term winglets but here's a picture of a DR400 so you can see for yourself, and yes winglets are great, I just don't think it's possible to fit some on my dreamplanes sadly.
i think this is another type. the wings on the R300 are not "bend" in the middle.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on January 10, 2007, 04:26:10 PM
Well I know that bent-wing model as a DR400 so it's highly possible the 300 uses different wings since I'm not sure what the differences between the models are from that manufacturer except they all look like simple and nice planes :)
Btw, aerobatics in danish is usually also called luft-akrobatik (air-acrobatics) and since the Robin to my knowledge is french then it's highly possible there is no equivalent to the aviation-specific term "aerobatics".
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: digits on January 10, 2007, 10:40:14 PM
one more obvious difference between R300 and the pic of your DR400: the R300 has its elevators "on top" of its tail, the DR400 on the bottom of its tail.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: switchtech on January 11, 2007, 02:06:52 AM
Well I know that bent-wing model as a DR400 so it's highly possible the 300 uses different wings since I'm not sure what the differences between the models are from that manufacturer except they all look like simple and nice planes :)
Btw, aerobatics in danish is usually also called luft-akrobatik (air-acrobatics) and since the Robin to my knowledge is french then it's highly possible there is no equivalent to the aviation-specific term "aerobatics".
Frank
I'm sure the French do the same, of course everything seems to be done the reverse of english, so instead of air-acrobatics, they probably say acrobaties aériennes
or something like that (and thanks babelfish ;)
jbs
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mic on January 11, 2007, 05:25:41 PM
You're right !
Usually "acrobaties aériennes" means evolutions done without any ... serious ! When a pilot do some evolution without authorization (no mention on the licence) or in a non authorized area ... and often on a non approved plane !
When it's done correctly, fully patented pilot, into a aerobatic mentioned area and with a aerobatic certified aircraft, it is called "voltige" in french.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on January 18, 2007, 09:14:23 PM
DonYan: Haha, good one! I only know english, danish, swedish and german, sadly not much more than a few words in french, spanish and italian and that's only because they sound similar to the basic old european languages that are related to the ones I know. Did you guys/gals here know that it's way back from the times of knights that set why people in some countries drive on the left side, it's to show your weapon when meeting another night, to show if you're respectful or hostile. Sweden only changed to driving on the right in the late 60s.
I still haven't found out why stuck-wing pilots sit on the left and sling-wing pilots sit on the right ::rofl::
Speaking of planes, I wonder how one does a crosswind landing in an Ercoupe with it's auto rudder function ::thinking::
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on January 18, 2007, 09:32:16 PM
The Ercoupe is designed to land with a side load. You come down final and land crabbed into the wind.
Stuck-wing are airplanes, sling wing are helicopters, i.e. the wings fly around the airframe. Mike would know better, but I think helicopter pilots sit on the right side because that side has the forward moving blade. Not sure why that's important, but that's what I've heard.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on January 21, 2007, 12:14:19 AM
I don't know for sure on the V vs straight tail but I appreciate and like your sense of humor, so just wecome to the coop. ::wave:: ::wave::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on January 21, 2007, 01:54:06 AM
Thank You, Frank. I only heard "fixed wing" and "rotary wing" terms. Don´t know about Boeing V-22, could be "tilt wing" or "tilt rotor". ::loony:: Also heard nothing more of NASA X-Wing research vehicle, nor it´s classification. ::thinking::
DonYan |:)\ the Blogg = my.opera.com/DonYan/ (go to Maule)
Well as Gulfstream explained then Stuck Wing is another version of the term Fixed Wing, I think it was Mike, the older of the two brothers that makes the comic and who flies helicopters for a living who first told me the term. He's also the one that said Sling Wing instead of Rotorcraft/helicopter. And a V-22 is normally called a tilt-rotor yes, although the blades are actually rigid like a propeller and not flexible like helicopter rotorblades but they probably thought tilt-propeller sounded funny, and they would be right hehe. Earlier experimental planes that came before the V-22 actually did tilt the whole wing with the rotor/propellers on the end.
I just looked at your page, those are some nice Maule pictures, especially the ones that look like one that flies thrue a very low gate and then does a very fast climb right after, wow! I also seem to remember it was a Maule that was used in the start of the movie The Cannonball Run when Burt Reynolds and Dom Deluise stop (land) in a small town square to get some beer, the title on the nose said "Maule M-5" and it did a climb-out from the narrow city-street at a similarly steep angle as in your photographs, sends chills down my spine everytime I see it, wild!
I must agree that also thought the Bonanza was a Beechcraft, I've even seen a V-tail in person here in DK, oh yeah that reminds me DonYan, I actually saw one of the few danish registered Maule's fly right over my head on the island a few weeks ago, I first thought it was a Cessna 172 or such but the engine didn't sound like it, much more strong sounding, and the tailplane wasn't as square as the Cessna's usually are, and when I looked it up online I found the very plane I'd seen and it was a Maule that's registered at a aviation photo company, which also explains why it was so low. First time I'd ever seen a Maule in person.
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on January 21, 2007, 07:30:13 PM
I must say DonYan, you are very good at writting posts that really makes one feel part of the events, very well-written and full of life |:)\
I've seen the Maule site and read some of the history, and I must say I'm amazed at that plane. Also flying out of the hangar wow! No wonder if was used in the movie, here's a screenshot of that btw: http://outnow.ch/Media/Img/1981/CannonballRun/dvd-film.ws/12?w=720&h=405
It sounds like you really enjoy life to the fullest, but still has both firm on the ground so to speak (by that I mean you're wise), I'd prefer to stay in the skydiver plane also on the way down hehe. I saw on the Maule site that it has a negative flap setting, I wonder if that's to aid to descend fast, like the swiss Pilatus Porter PC-6 that can almost beat a skydiver back down to the ground after dropping them off, and I imagine after reading the other site that the Maule can probably descend just as fast |:)\
And I can sadly agree on the dangers of road-traffic, people here are just going crazy and since I'm not a speed-enthusiast I can't really get much pleasure out of driving anymore since this country is just too small to be able to find a quiet place to drive, all roads, large and small have fast drivers on them, which is why I'm trying to go into aviation this year. Of course everything in life is dangerous, but in different ways and on different levels.
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on January 23, 2007, 02:53:32 AM
It's always a pleasure to hear aviation stories from the person who experienced it, and who also clearly enjoyed the experience |:)\ I was wondering, does anyone here have an idea if there's a clear difference between landing a taildragger and a tricycle gear plane? I assume the touch-down point would be where the difference would be clearest but then again, maybe with all the differences from plane to plane, even of the same make and model, then maybe this question can't really be answered?
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on January 23, 2007, 08:31:17 PM
There's a significant difference in tail-draggers and trikes. Think of a tail-dragger as a car going in reverse all the time and think about how unstable your car is. Now imagine that your car in reverse has a castoring wheel for directional control. The wheels that control which direction you're going always "want" to be in the front, so putting them in the back causes problems. Also, when landing a tail-dragger, you have very little control over the airplane while the tail settles down. This is why you need an endorsement to fly taildraggers.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: TheSoccerMom on January 24, 2007, 03:32:54 AM
Good mental picture, there. :D
I had an instructor compare ground control in taildraggers, to the difference between pushing a shopping cart forward (goes where you want), to the unwelcome results you get when you push it backwards (and knock over that 8-foot-high pyramid of oranges in the produce section).
It did help when we got in the airplane.... but, he was STILL screaming..... ::rofl::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on January 24, 2007, 02:00:39 PM
There's a significant difference in tail-draggers and trikes. Think of a tail-dragger as a car going in reverse all the time and think about how unstable your car is. Now imagine that your car in reverse has a castoring wheel for directional control. The wheels that control which direction you're going always "want" to be in the front, so putting them in the back causes problems. Also, when landing a tail-dragger, you have very little control over the airplane while the tail settles down. This is why you need an endorsement to fly taildraggers.
::wave:: Hi Erik, One little aside on the subject, I teach tail dragger students how to wheel land the airplane in really bad crosswinds because the higher touchdown speed (with the tail in the air) gives you better directional control at speed rather than take the chance of floating along at stall speed just above the runway with very little command.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on January 24, 2007, 06:33:02 PM
There's a significant difference in tail-draggers and trikes. Think of a tail-dragger as a car going in reverse all the time and think about how unstable your car is. Now imagine that your car in reverse has a castoring wheel for directional control. The wheels that control which direction you're going always "want" to be in the front, so putting them in the back causes problems. Also, when landing a tail-dragger, you have very little control over the airplane while the tail settles down. This is why you need an endorsement to fly taildraggers.
::wave:: Hi Erik, One little aside on the subject, I teach tail dragger students how to wheel land the airplane in really bad crosswinds because the higher touchdown speed (with the tail in the air) gives you better directional control at speed rather than take the chance of floating along at stall speed just above the runway with very little command.
Good point. I've got about 1.5 hrs in a Decathalon, but only for spin training. I wasn't allowed to land it. So, I don't have an endorsement and am not really up on all the intracacies of landing tail wheels.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: undatc on January 24, 2007, 07:15:18 PM
Good point. I've got about 1.5 hrs in a Decathlon, but only for spin training. I wasn't allowed to land it. So, I don't have an endorsement and am not really up on all the intracacies of landing tail wheels.
Ahh our decathlons. You know a guy crashed on last year, and prop struck the other one we had all within about 3 weeks of each other leaving only one left. We were talking about picking up an extra 300, but I don't think UND would fork out the bucks for one. And apparently I just heard that we canceled our order for two VLJ's. Wonder why....
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on January 24, 2007, 07:21:35 PM
Good point. I've got about 1.5 hrs in a Decathlon, but only for spin training. I wasn't allowed to land it. So, I don't have an endorsement and am not really up on all the intracacies of landing tail wheels.
Ahh our decathlons. You know a guy crashed on last year, and prop struck the other one we had all within about 3 weeks of each other leaving only one left. We were talking about picking up an extra 300, but I don't think UND would fork out the bucks for one. And apparently I just heard that we canceled our order for two VLJ's. Wonder why....
The same guy did in both planes?
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: undatc on January 24, 2007, 07:31:10 PM
no i think they were different guys, but all the same, lost 2 of our 3 within a month.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: TheSoccerMom on January 24, 2007, 10:14:14 PM
Tailwheel instruction is getting harder and harder to find, at least that is the situation in the northwest part of the country. It seems that between the insurance requirements and the prevalence of nosewheel airplanes, it's just less and less common to see many taildraggers. I know there are still strong pockets here and there, and I would guess Alaska would of course have more "than average", but I'm not up on the specifics. It must be scarce in the east, too, as a high-time tailwheel guy I know here gets calls from people as far away as D.C. to ask for instruction when they buy some fancy, high performance pilot-ego-thumper.
Jim (Fireflyr) mentioned the wheel landing as allowing more definite control in the touchdown phase; that is always how it was taught to me, too. The rule they hammer into you ("You gotta FLY the airplane right from the second you move out of the chocks") really is true. It really IS "alive". Tailwinds can get challenging, more so than in a nosewheel. I think the most "interesting" landing I ever had in a large tailwheel was with a quartering tailwind, fairly strong, and not so much landing as "feeling through" that "no-man's-land" during the transition to get the tail down, and then feeling when to add in reverse because it was a short strip. Yeah, reverse... that adds some fun!!! :P
I can honestly say I'm sure I've taken multiple years off the lives of several instructors in tailwheels. :-[ I'm not happy they were each screaming to get out of the airplane, but, hey, aviation's supposed to be an adventure, right? (Though, I may have boosted parachute sales, come to think of it.)
If I could WISH for a nice little daydream, it would be to have something like a Citabria, or a Husky, and have ALL the good instructors I know show up to give me unlimited instruction. I'm so rusty now that I'm not sure I could FIND the tailwheel, much less keep control of the little devil. >:D But, it DOES make you work, and makes you a much better pilot, in my humble opinion. I always tell people to go get the endorsement, if they can.
8)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: TheSoccerMom on January 25, 2007, 12:59:39 AM
Two... the DC-3 with the turbine conversion... a great airplane!! ;)
And, sometimes more fun than others! ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: tundra_flier on January 26, 2007, 01:51:19 AM
Speaking of irrreplacable birds, a DC-4 went down between Fairbanks and Nenana last week. Had an engine fire, and the extinguisers failed to put it out. They were carrying 3,000 gal of heating oil at the time. :o The pilot decided to ditch it in the tundra rather than risk losing a wing trying to nurse it back to an airport. No one hurt, but I hear one of the flight crew quit as this is the second time he's had an engine fire that couldn't be extinguished. ::drinking:: Can't say I blame him, especially hauling fuel.
Here's some photos, just scroll down till you see it. This guy has a lot of great stuff on his site.
http://www.ruudleeuw.com/tmp-photos-6.htm
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: TheSoccerMom on January 26, 2007, 05:01:39 AM
I believe that was old Tanker 153; it had many years of service fighting forest fires as a heavy airtanker. There have been some pretty heartfelt comments from the guys who flew her on hearing this news... very sad to learn she had gone into the trees, though of course everyone was impressed the crew put it down so well and got out of it fine. Which is what counts most. |:)\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fireflyr on January 26, 2007, 11:44:53 PM
YIKES ::eek:: 3000 gallons of fuel with a wing on fire!!! That'll get your full attention quicker'n a Ethiopian on a Big Mac!!! That precautionary landing was an act of extreme cool ::bow::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: tundra_flier on March 20, 2007, 04:33:53 AM
Speaking of irrreplacable birds, a DC-4 went down between Fairbanks and Nenana last week. Had an engine fire, and the extinguisers failed to put it out. They were carrying 3,000 gal of heating oil at the time. :o The pilot decided to ditch it in the tundra rather than risk losing a wing trying to nurse it back to an airport. No one hurt, but I hear one of the flight crew quit as this is the second time he's had an engine fire that couldn't be extinguished. ::drinking:: Can't say I blame him, especially hauling fuel.
Here's some photos, just scroll down till you see it. This guy has a lot of great stuff on his site.
http://www.ruudleeuw.com/tmp-photos-6.htm
Hello, Tundra_flier: Great pilot, saved the crew! |:)\ How did they stop the fire on the ground? ??? Saw the photos, plane in one piece and fire out
Don Sorry I took so long to respond. I heard that it did continue to burn for quite a while on the ground. I'm guessing, snow, cold temps and fuel exahaustion eventually put it out. At least before it reached the cargo. I also heard one of the fuel bladders came loose on landing and slammed into the cockpit and would have been a very bad situation for the crew if plane hadn't turned sideways before stopping.
Phil
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Baradium on March 20, 2007, 05:10:49 AM
I also heard one of the fuel bladders came loose on landing and slammed into the cockpit and would have been a very bad situation for the crew if plane hadn't turned sideways before stopping.
Phil
I believe that web site updated saying that the F/O was trapped for a short period when the fuel bladder came loose.
If it didn't, then I read it somewhere else. ;)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: TheSoccerMom on March 28, 2007, 03:05:21 AM
Okay Frank, I'm gonna give this a shot. But seeing as how I usually can't recall what I did 2 days ago, well, this might be an imperfect attempt!
Plus, the Douglas products in the jumpseat only, also P-3 there, oh and C-130, cockpit seat AND strapped into the back with feet hanging off the open ramp doors.... yippee, skippee on THAT one..... fun stuff... But, I guess drooling down the backs of the pilots' necks doesn't count here.
=========================================================================================== Slowest groundspeed over a long course: 28 knots. Engine failures in single-engine airplanes: two (one to a horse pasture, one to a road right behind a logging truck). Near-misses: Eight, but that's only the ones I saw. Gear-Up Landings: None, whew (insert sound of knocking on wood between ears). Highest cruise altitude: FL330 (what a tailwind). Lowest cruise altitude: Couldn't tell you, was busy looking outside. Favorite radio call: "Hey, trade you airplanes!" from Southwest B737, to Twin Otter. Crazy moment: Night training flights for the military where we couldn't ask who was onboard. Crazy moment #2: Being chased by Customs due to above-mentioned military not telling Customs we were supposed to be where we were.... Most ironic parking spot: Next to Air Force Two -- all that security, and us without even a door on the darned airplane.... Plus a bunch of other fun and crazy moments.... ;D ===========================================================================================
And, a smattering of simulators, and if you need to know which ones, just look for the groaning instructor reaching for the aspirin.
Frank, I have had a LOT of fun in my flying life so far, and some hairy times, too, but when I walk into work in a few weeks, I'll get to look around at some of the most experienced, amazing pilots I have ever had the pleasure to know.... I wish I had known this was going to turn out to be a job... maybe I would have had a PLAN. (Or, what the hell, maybe not!!) But, I just wanted to learn to fly because it was so much FUN. So, I am much more limited than these guys and gals I know, but on the good side, I can always learn from them if I just try to.
Cheers!
S'Mom 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: FlyboyGil on March 28, 2007, 03:26:29 AM
Plus, the Douglas products in the jumpseat only, also P-3 there, oh and C-130, cockpit seat AND strapped into the back with feet hanging off the open ramp doors.... yippee, skippee on THAT one..... fun stuff... But, I guess drooling down the backs of the pilots' necks doesn't count here.
=========================================================================================== Slowest groundspeed over a long course: 28 knots. Engine failures in single-engine airplanes: two (one to a horse pasture, one to a road right behind a logging truck). Near-misses: Eight, but that's only the ones I saw. Gear-Up Landings: None, whew (insert sound of knocking on wood between ears). Highest cruise altitude: FL330 (what a tailwind). Lowest cruise altitude: Couldn't tell you, was busy looking outside. Favorite radio call: "Hey, trade you airplanes!" from Southwest B737, to Twin Otter. Crazy moment: Night training flights for the military where we couldn't ask who was onboard. Crazy moment #2: Being chased by Customs due to above-mentioned military not telling Customs we were supposed to be where we were.... Most ironic parking spot: Next to Air Force Two -- all that security, and us without even a door on the darned airplane.... Plus a bunch of other fun and crazy moments.... ;D ===========================================================================================
And, a smattering of simulators, and if you need to know which ones, just look for the groaning instructor reaching for the aspirin.
Frank, I have had a LOT of fun in my flying life so far, and some hairy times, too, but when I walk into work in a few weeks, I'll get to look around at some of the most experienced, amazing pilots I have ever had the pleasure to know.... I wish I had known this was going to turn out to be a job... maybe I would have had a PLAN. (Or, what the hell, maybe not!!) But, I just wanted to learn to fly because it was so much FUN. So, I am much more limited than these guys and gals I know, but on the good side, I can always learn from them if I just try to.
Cheers!
S'Mom 8) 8) 8)
What no jet? And you call yourself a pilot :P :P :P :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: TheSoccerMom on March 28, 2007, 03:29:57 AM
Only jet is the Falcon... I lucked out and flew with a nice guy who always let me fly...
And I knew I would forget something, forgot all about the Pilatus PC-12...... a sweet machine for sure....
And HA HA, No, I can't call myself a PILOT, because all my buds start hitting me then, and throwing things across the room!! Heh heh!!!
::wave::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: undatc on March 28, 2007, 03:44:05 AM
Soccer,
My uncle flew on P3's for the Navy for awhile, some interesting stories there, but... question for ya, as you flew the Neptune. The jet/rocket engines on them, did you just use them on short feilds or what? I was kinda lost when I was looking it over in Tillimook. I think I've had almost as many near misses, and I'm only at a fraction of the time you're at ::knockedout::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: TheSoccerMom on March 28, 2007, 03:52:26 AM
On fire missions, they use the jets for takeoff and for the drops themselves. They really suck the fuel. I got to fly it back from a fire, and land it here in Boise. That Captain was killed shortly thereafter on a fire. :'(
Yeah, near-misses aren't much fun but I guess they're better than the alternative!!! Had a super close one in the pattern with a student, and the other bad ones were on fires. I owe my life to a tanker pilot who screamed at me, he was right behind me in tight and we were on final for a drop, and I would have gotten a Cessna into the butt end of my Baron.
I don't know who was madder, him or me... when we landed, he was going to find the guy and KILL him, and I was still in shock.. I never even SAW the airplane. He put it at less than 20 feet.
And people wonder why I look 94 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
:D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: undatc on March 28, 2007, 04:17:20 AM
On fire missions, they use the jets for takeoff and for the drops themselves. They really suck the fuel. I got to fly it back from a fire, and land it here in Boise. That Captain was killed shortly thereafter on a fire. :'(
Yeah, near-misses aren't much fun but I guess they're better than the alternative!!! Had a super close one in the pattern with a student, and the other bad ones were on fires. I owe my life to a tanker pilot who screamed at me, he was right behind me in tight and we were on final for a drop, and I would have gotten a Cessna into the butt end of my Baron.
I don't know who was madder, him or me... when we landed, he was going to find the guy and KILL him, and I was still in shock.. I never even SAW the airplane. He put it at less than 20 feet.
And people wonder why I look 94 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
:D
Interesting, I once set TCAS off in an MD80, thats a good story. Though it wasn't my fault, it was Bismark's tower controllers fault.
Something you might find interesting, in ATC and NTSB reports when talking about a crash, they talk about the crash itself as, "the closest point of approach"
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on March 28, 2007, 12:53:12 PM
wow! look at those types, mom!! that's "the real flying experience" where you actually have to fly all your hours (not much flight directors and autopilots in there,huh?!)
I like the middle part, maybe we should make another thread out of that! ::wave::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 28, 2007, 03:20:25 PM
On fire missions, they use the jets for takeoff and for the drops themselves. They really suck the fuel. I got to fly it back from a fire, and land it here in Boise. That Captain was killed shortly thereafter on a fire. :'(
Yeah, near-misses aren't much fun but I guess they're better than the alternative!!! Had a super close one in the pattern with a student, and the other bad ones were on fires. I owe my life to a tanker pilot who screamed at me, he was right behind me in tight and we were on final for a drop, and I would have gotten a Cessna into the butt end of my Baron.
I don't know who was madder, him or me... when we landed, he was going to find the guy and KILL him, and I was still in shock.. I never even SAW the airplane. He put it at less than 20 feet.
And people wonder why I look 94 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
:D
What was the Cessna doing on the fire?
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 28, 2007, 03:28:29 PM
No...Reporters would have been on the ground saying, "Wow, look at those three Cessnas flying so close together. Let's take some pictures and make up a really scary misleading story about them."
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: TheSoccerMom on March 28, 2007, 07:24:15 PM
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What was the Cessna doing on the fire?
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Usually when we have a BAD DAY with another aircraft, it's a transient airplane who sees smoke and says "OOOH, cool, let's look!" and then they try to kill all the rest of us. ::complaining: In THIS case, however, it was a government patrol plane, sent out to just cruise the National Forest just south of the Forest where our fire was. When this happens, one dispatch office is supposed to call the adjacent areas and say "Hey, we got a start up on Mt. So-and-so, we're sending a lead and tanker out there, they'll be on Victor 124.55 (whatever)." "Border fires" are a red flag... (right Mikey?) ...usually one area uses one air-to-air freq and so you run the risk of bumping into other folks out there, but on different freqs. So, you always have the other guys' freq's.
Make sense? Anyway, when we got the fire call, I asked dispatch to be sure they called the adjacent forest, because it was obviously right near the border. They DID, yet their patrol plane just happened to be near the ridge, saw the wisp of smoke from behind the mountain, so thought they'd "just come over and make sure where it was". Well, that's a fine idea when you know there are NO OTHER AIRCRAFT responding. They flat SCREWED UP.
It was a nice little fire, early morning so no wind, we dry-ran it and then came around for the drops. The tanker was right behind me, and we were on short final, when it happened. I never saw them... the tanker guy right on my butt said they would have taken off the tail of the Baron. He just happened to catch a flash, and he just screamed "TURN! NOW!" and I was so shocked and so startled, I just rolled hard left. Thanks to the slippery little Baron, we all missed each other. We came around, did the drop, reported it on the radio, went back to base, and I was in much more of a daze than the tanker captain, who was positively going to go find whomever was in that "%^%#%^^^ airplane", and kill them with his bare hands. Which seemed like a very nice idea, to me. "Yup.. sounds good." And boy, this guy could have done it in about 2 seconds.
They had been told our victor frequency, but were just listening to their own frequenecy. They knew what they did, but never did contact us or apologize, or anything. They flew back to their airport and so the murder never took place, but boy, I have no doubt it would have.
There are too many instances of being "surprised" like this... as Jim and Mike and all the other fire guys know all too well. Last summer we even had some idiot who kept trying to circle right at the edge of the column, but he sure picked the bad side, and so about got run over by it. I called the military guys we were flight-following with, told him we had a single-engine low-wing and he needed to get the HELL OUT NOW. The controller got on and harped at an airplane (whom he had been talking to earlier and felt could only be the same guy). We never heard any response, but suddenly the guy flew away. Grrr-rrrrr.
So... I still love that tanker pilot. :-*
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: TheSoccerMom on March 28, 2007, 11:26:19 PM
Hola DonYan!! ::wave::
Wow, you are right, the Angel got her? (his?) wings clipped!!! Oh dear, can that be right for a CHICKEN group?? Hmmm....
Yes, that guy saved my butt-ski for sure. AND, the folks in the other plane, too. He would have probably passed right over our flaming ball of wreckage. (OOoh, a new spot for the drop!) ;)
I ran into him a few years ago, on a busy ramp, and he introduced me to his new copilot. While shaking the guy's hand, I nodded toward Steve and said "You know, he saved my life." And the copilot laughed, and said "Yeah, right." So I said, "No.. he really DID. He saved my life." And the kid just guffawed and said "Oh sure... yeah."
Steve just stood there with a big grin, as if to say "New guys!!!" ::) and just kept grinning. He never said a word, just gave me a big bear hug and kept grinning. ::angel::
I am guessing the kid figured it out before too long..... or else quit. 8)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: TheSoccerMom on March 28, 2007, 11:43:24 PM
HA HA!!!!!! That's a good one!! Well, this would be a pretty mellow version of dear Steve that day!!
You probably could have heard the roaring stream of obscenities all the way from your place! ::eek::
:-*
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: TheSoccerMom on April 02, 2007, 01:02:32 AM
Oh, I forgot one... it was only for a few minutes... but it was worth remembering.....
The lovely Stearman...... |:)\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Franz on May 13, 2007, 12:52:33 PM
Hi there, I've got some gliders to add to this list:
K 7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Schleicher_Ka_7) Ka 8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Schleicher_Ka_8) ASK-13 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Schleicher_ASK_13) ASK-21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Schleicher_ASK_21)
DG-1000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DG_Flugzeugbau_DG-1000) (only 20 min, but with a Flight Instructor who likes doing some acro in the back seat ;D 8) )
And two or three minutes of trying to hold a DR400 (http://www.apex-aircraft.com/en/robin/remo/index.htm) straight and level.
Edit: Put in some links
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: airtac on May 13, 2007, 03:58:16 PM
I don't know any of those models so I'm impressed |:)\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on May 13, 2007, 06:15:16 PM
Welcome Franz, nice list of aircraft there ::wave::
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: happylanding on May 13, 2007, 07:20:31 PM
Welcome among the chickens and chicks Franz! |:)\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on May 15, 2007, 10:46:32 PM
A shame more people don't know about that great flight adventure but at least now us here will see it thanks to you and can give them a salute for a well done recordflight |:)\
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Franz on May 17, 2007, 01:46:44 PM
Bienvenido, don Franz. Here in México, sailplanes are non existant, and general aviation almost dissapeared. It survives with Skydive lessons and very few air taxis...Nobody followed a record flight during the last months, paragliders crossing México from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of México, over the NeoVolcanic chain.
As you must know, sailing with soft wings over high mountain ranges, requires high concentration/planning to avoid accidents. They all ended the flight last week safely, lots of photos from very remote (abandoned) places and cultures. The Central Sierra Madre is the Mexican continuation of the USA Appalachians.
That is definetly true. Although I have not yet flown in mountainous areas, I'm going to do so as soon as I get an opportunity. And you are right, from what I have heard from people who have been flying in the Alps, you should be properly prepared.Have a flight with an expirienced pilot from that area and a map marked with all the spots where you can land if you have to. I think it's a lot of fun to fly fast and right next to a ridge using its lift and watch people climb up those mountains. 8) ;D
[img]http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3972/volcanpopocateptlka7.jpg[/img]Here is the Popocatéptl active volcano, 5,426 metres (17,802 feet) altitude. Below the Paraglider is the high plateau dessert.
It seems the first time they connected over high dessert areas, asnd it seems arecord fligh in the hisytory of Paragliders. Here in this country no media gave a HOOT!!! Only the Poli university public TV channel 11 (canal Once) reported the ending of this successfull private venture. I only have this link, in Spanish: http://www.lineadelavida.com/travesia/showroom.htm
And a photo of where the flight ended: Gulf of México:
[img]http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/781/madeitqa6.png[/img] Hasta la vista, DonYan
Is is really sad that there is hardly anything in the media about GA as long as there are no accidents. Another example for such a record is a flight of 3000 (three thousand) km in the Andes with a glider four years ago. There were like two sentences on the bottom of the page in in the newspaper, but that was it.
Well, a Salute |:)\ to the crew. I wonder how much more difficult it is to fly long distances in a paraglider. In a "normal" glider you have a bunch of instruments, a radio, GPS, parachute, . . ., but in a paraglider? I think that is very close to having your own wings.
Cu (I like that because it is a) short fo see you and b) an abbreviation for Cumulus, the kind of clouds all glider pilots like because they mark thermals) all Franz
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on May 17, 2007, 10:00:37 PM
Boy, it's been a few years since I tallied a list of what I've flown. Lemme see if I can remember them all...
Great Lakes Ford Tri-Motor (actually, a Bushmaster) Pilatus PC-12 Swietzer 232 Blanik Citabria Pitts S2B
I'm always looking to add new experiences to my logbook, sooooooooo.... does anyone here have a P51 that I could mooch a ride from? Heck, I'll settle for a T28! Hehe. Only kidding, but I'd love to add a few warbirds into my log entries.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: FlyboyGil on May 18, 2007, 12:04:14 AM
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I'm always looking to add new experiences to my logbook, sooooooooo.... does anyone here have a P51 that I could mooch a ride from? Heck, I'll settle for a T28! Hehe. Only kidding, but I'd love to add a few warbirds into my log entries.
Warbirds rock!! I had 20 minutes on a Harvard (T-6 Texan down south). Not a really a warbird as it's a trainer, but still. THAT FLIGHT ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Once I get things straightend out here, get 200 hours, I'm definatley going for training on one!!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: undatc on May 18, 2007, 04:39:19 AM
Ok, its been awhile since I updated my list as well;
Northwest Pinnicale Mesaba Delta Alaska Skywest
the list goes on...
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on May 18, 2007, 05:23:52 AM
I'm always looking to add new experiences to my logbook, sooooooooo.... does anyone here have a P51 that I could mooch a ride from? Heck, I'll settle for a T28! Hehe. Only kidding, but I'd love to add a few warbirds into my log entries.
Warbirds rock!! I had 20 minutes on a Harvard (T-6 Texan down south). Not a really a warbird as it's a trainer, but still. THAT FLIGHT ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Once I get things straightend out here, get 200 hours, I'm definatley going for training on one!!
Shoot! I totally forgot the SNJ I flew about 4 years ago. Makes me wonder what else I've forgotten... Hehe
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention... I just love round engines! They are a dying breed, and I miss them more and more while flying turboprops. Makes me sad to see them fade away slowly like they are.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Baradium on May 18, 2007, 08:48:25 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention... I just love round engines! They are a dying breed, and I miss them more and more while flying turboprops. Makes me sad to see them fade away slowly like they are.
Come to Alaska. ;)
You know, DC-6s are actually quite fast airplanes. Earlier today we were at our barber pole (by this time was at the Vne of 247 kts) with power in descending through 15,000 ft at a good clip and they were in cruise at 4,000 ft and we only had 50 kts on them. They cruise around at over 200 indicated (something around 220 or so it seems).
Of course, I've heard that Everts is also the largest consumer of 100LL in the world... by an extremely large number...
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: tundra_flier on May 18, 2007, 04:40:50 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention... I just love round engines! They are a dying breed, and I miss them more and more while flying turboprops. Makes me sad to see them fade away slowly like they are.
Come to Alaska. ;)
You know, DC-6s are actually quite fast airplanes. Earlier today we were at our barber pole (by this time was at the Vne of 247 kts) with power in descending through 15,000 ft at a good clip and they were in cruise at 4,000 ft and we only had 50 kts on them. They cruise around at over 200 indicated (something around 220 or so it seems).
Of course, I've heard that Everts is also the largest consumer of 100LL in the world... by an extremely large number...
One of their pilots told me the DC-6's use 300gal/hr in cruise and 400 in climb. And that he'd calculated how many millions of gallons of 100LL he'd burned in his carreer at one point.
But it seems the Round engines are making a bit of a comeback, at least in the homebuilt world. Between the M-14 and the Rotec radials we're seeing more and more of them. Some friends of mine are building a Canadian Northstar that uses the M-14, and there's a couple Murphy Moose being built in town too. I'm hoping the Rotec's new 150hp engine pans out well. That'd look awsome on the front of Bearhawk I'm building.
Phil ::cowboy::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Fabo on May 18, 2007, 06:27:06 PM
Rooster: You have got to a Blanik there in US? Nice plane isnt it? :) Still waiting to fly one, despite them being about 10 just 5km from my home :)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on May 19, 2007, 07:27:41 PM
Rooster: You have got to a Blanik there in US? Nice plane isnt it? :) Still waiting to fly one, despite them being about 10 just 5km from my home :)
Yes, its a very nice sailplane. Its been about 18 years or so since I flew it, but it was a memorable experience. I just wish I could add Glider to my certificates, but the wife says I gotta pay for the house first. Maybe after I retire I can do that (in about 40 years...)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on May 19, 2007, 07:41:32 PM
Rooster: You have got to a Blanik there in US? Nice plane isnt it? :) Still waiting to fly one, despite them being about 10 just 5km from my home :)
Yes, its a very nice sailplane. Its been about 18 years or so since I flew it, but it was a memorable experience. I just wish I could add Glider to my certificates, but the wife says I gotta pay for the house first. Maybe after I retire I can do that (in about 40 years...)
Well I am not sure how about in the US but it is pretty cheap in Europe... after all you need no fuel :) so I dont think it would be that big of problem to have...
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Baradium on May 21, 2007, 07:09:12 AM
Yes, its a very nice sailplane. Its been about 18 years or so since I flew it, but it was a memorable experience. I just wish I could add Glider to my certificates, but the wife says I gotta pay for the house first. Maybe after I retire I can do that (in about 40 years...)
Well I am not sure how about in the US but it is pretty cheap in Europe... after all you need no fuel :) so I dont think it would be that big of problem to have...
You need plenty of fuel! Tow planes don't run on dreams and wishes! ;)
-Ryan
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Baradium on May 21, 2007, 07:10:07 AM
Yes, its a very nice sailplane. Its been about 18 years or so since I flew it, but it was a memorable experience. I just wish I could add Glider to my certificates, but the wife says I gotta pay for the house first. Maybe after I retire I can do that (in about 40 years...)
Well I am not sure how about in the US but it is pretty cheap in Europe... after all you need no fuel :) so I dont think it would be that big of problem to have...
You need plenty of fuel! Tow planes don't run on dreams and wishes! ;)
-Ryan
You have no winch starts over there ???
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Baradium on May 21, 2007, 09:25:32 AM
I'm working on that! Hoping to make it to Alaska for the first time either this summer or fall. I am looking forward to my first trip up north. 8)
Be sure to say hi if you do!
Roger Wilco ::cowboy::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Baradium on May 26, 2007, 11:47:24 PM
I thought putting a motor on it meant it wasn't a sailplane anymore...
In any case... am I to understand that they are simply doing all this in flight simulator?
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Baradium on May 27, 2007, 07:21:03 AM
I know what a motorglider is. ;)
I was just saying that I figured that a motor glider was by definition not a sailplane (as you said, a category of their own!).
Although that one doesn't seem to be a motor glider either. Seems to just be an aircraft that is intended to be powered throughout the flight. :D
Why yes, I am being difficult.... :D
Either way, interesting project... although I'm not quite sure what actually doing that will accomplish.
Re: you comment about batteries and pollution... this is one reason that hybrid vehicles are a farce as far as "environmentally friendly" is concerned.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Baradium on May 27, 2007, 08:08:46 PM
Absolutely!!! ::knockedout:: So far, alternative energys are NOT ecofriendly in their manufacture: ::banghead:: and alternative fuels are turning green England (with "Biodiesel") into a Yellow color countryside PLUS the smell...read http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2007/05/stories/06/1.html?text and cry... ::loony::
DonYan
I actually know a bit about biodiesel. I used to own a diesel Scout (International Scout that is) and looked into it and know a few people that run it. The manufacture and smell depends on your source. The guys I know either use straight WVO (waste vegetable oil) from restuarants or refine that into diesel fuel.
They claim that waste based biodiesel smells like what was cooked in it. IE, Donuts, French Fries, Chicken etc. Burning straight WVO provides very little pollution as well. Bio diesel in general also tends to have low pollution output, although you do have to be careful with some chemicals when refining it. The people I know who use it refine their own or in some cases burn straight oil fresh from McDonalds (one guy in HI actually had a problem when he accidentally poured a french fry into the tank on his diesel scout).
I'm not familiar with the processes for biodiesel made specifically for that purpose... but I'm sure it doesn't smell so nice and I believe they use some nastier chemicals than the home brewers do.
P.S. 1,000.... do I get a prize?
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: RagDragger on June 15, 2007, 12:03:07 AM
Bit of an old thread, but I thought I'd add my list. In order: C-172 Beech Sierra (flew ok, but best glide was 105 MPH...that's not a glide, IMO) Citabria Piper Seminole C-150 172RG J3, PA18, PA12, and J5 Cubs, modified to one extent or another for banner towing Oh, and I safety piloted for a guy in an amphib C206 with a G1000 in it. Flew like a dump truck with all that float on it. That G1000 has more bells and whistles than I can count though. That's it for now, hoping to expand my list as time goes on.
Edit: forgot about the 150, slow but fun
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: fliboye on July 10, 2007, 11:39:19 AM
it has been awhile since I visited I am now flying
a CL- 30 and the lr-60 getting there faster and going a lot farther I am sitting in a hotel in Paris nextstop madrid then off to dublin, then home ::eek:: ::knockedout::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on July 10, 2007, 06:56:47 PM
Ah, the joys of flying Big Iron: Go Farther... Stay Longer... |:)\ |:)\ |:)\
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Fabo on July 11, 2007, 10:58:44 AM
fliboye: For benefit of all of us including you, please make your avatar smaller so we could see your head actually in one piece ;)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: spacer on July 12, 2007, 12:45:27 AM
fliboye: For benefit of all of us including you, please make your avatar smaller so we could see your head actually in one piece ;)
pretty please? :o
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Franz on July 21, 2007, 08:34:11 PM
Thursday I managed to add another plane to my list. I finally managed to fly our DG 100G (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DG_100). At first it seemed impossible to get my 1,93 m ( 6' 4'') into the cockpit, but after removing all pillows, borrowing a slimmer 'chute and a little trying I did six takeoffs and landings. 8) ;D ;D ;D 8) GREAT PLANE . . . I'll most probably spend the next week flying D-1547 (and post a pic of the plane and my as soon as I've got it digital)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Oddball on December 29, 2007, 07:11:40 PM
ok i know this is an old thread but does flyiing a model count? im flying and at the sticks ::thinking:: ::eek:: ::loony:: can give some really amazing aircraft if it does lol
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Oddball on May 14, 2008, 09:20:04 PM
been thinking of what i have "flown" over the years and here it goes in no particular order:
And many many more makes a impressive list even though they are only Radio Control models ::whistle:: ::rofl::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: gibbo_335 on May 14, 2008, 10:44:45 PM
OK here....finally...is my IMPRESSIVE ::) list
Cessna 172N X 2 (this one in Vanuatu ::bow:: nice little plane!!) (http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/2/7/7/1/81698_1199078177_tb.jpg) Cessna 172SP (2001 and 2004 models ;D ) (http://www.flyingcircuits.com.au/Oakey/RAQ_Nav3.png) PA-28R-200 Arrow ... wheels go up ....wheels go down ('Mom helped with that one :D) Cessna 182P Cessna 182Q (http://www.flyingcircuits.com.au/interesting_planes/C182-VH-TRE-Yred26-08-07a.jpg)
Hope your not TOO overwhelmed ::rofl::
Oddball that's a nice R/C list mate ::drinking:: |:)\ WOT THE HAY'L is a Jabberwoki??? ::eek::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Oddball on May 15, 2008, 12:14:05 AM
think i misspelt that one gibbo its a biplane and thats all i can remeber could be jabberwocky/jabberwoky or summit like that.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: G-man on May 15, 2008, 12:26:14 AM
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on May 15, 2008, 04:33:38 AM
Since you guys brought this one back to the present, I'll need to add C550 to my list. When you include the SNJ I forgot to add to my original list, it makes for about 42 different makes and models. <whew> Methinks I need a brew to cool off my head after counting that high! Hehe
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on May 15, 2008, 05:45:15 AM
42 !?! :o ::eek::
Where did you find all those fingers to count that high? ? ? ? ::thinking::
In my book, everything past "3" falls under the general umbrella called "many" . . . ::whistle::
already had "many" of ::drinking:: ::drinking:: tonight ;) ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on May 15, 2008, 06:30:14 AM
42 Buddy, as in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy! Hehe
I finally got to crack one open now. ::drinking:: Niter's y'all! <hic>
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: ZK Kiwi on October 29, 2008, 06:04:59 AM
My list (what I can remember...) Embraer Bandeirante Grumman Widgeon C150, C152, C172 C182, C206 (floatplane) C337 C310 PA31 Citabria RV6A Jodel D18 Auster MkV DH Devon (Dove) DC-3 GAF Nomad Partenavia P68 North American T6 Yak52 PBN Trislander Zenair 601 Protech PT2
An interesting mix....
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: gibbo_335 on October 30, 2008, 05:15:19 AM
WOO HOO I can add three more....
PN68 Partenavia (YAY got my Multi!!!) |:)\ PA-28 ArcherII (I like this one it's nice) Citabria (still working on the tail-dagger endorsment :D)
Cessna 172N X 2 (this one in Vanuatu ::bow:: nice little plane!!) (http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/2/7/7/1/81698_1199078177_tb.jpg) Cessna 172SP (2001 and 2004 models ;D ) (http://www.flyingcircuits.com.au/Oakey/RAQ_Nav3.png) PA-28R-200 Arrow ... wheels go up ....wheels go down ('Mom helped with that one :D) Cessna 182P Cessna 182Q (http://www.flyingcircuits.com.au/interesting_planes/C182-VH-TRE-Yred26-08-07a.jpg)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Frank N. O. on October 31, 2008, 02:23:40 AM
Bruce: Wow, what a list! |:)\ I actually saw a GAF Nomad at a danish airport a few years ago which seemed to be a rare occasion since it doesn't seem to be known much on this part of the planet, except as the aircraft star of the tv-series "Flying Doctors" which was/is quite popular here in Scandinavia.
Gibbo: Good on'ya mate! Keep on racking up those hours and flown planes |:)\
Frank
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: gibbo_335 on October 31, 2008, 04:15:30 AM
Hey thanks Franklin :D
The good news about the GAF Nomad is it looks like Gippsland Aviation are goin to start building them again!!!! http://www.gippsaero.com/article.asp-articleID=517.htm (http://www.gippsaero.com/article.asp-articleID=517.htm) WOO HOO
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: 4X-NTY on October 31, 2008, 10:35:01 PM
need to update my list... from none,i got under my hands: 30 minutes on C172 about an hour on a Piper Cherokee and 30 minutes on a Savannah (ultralight) I think it's pretty good for a 16 year old kid.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on November 01, 2008, 12:44:02 AM
Just flew an R-22 from one end of the field to the other... I can still fly it!! even though it's been 8 years!
...I should probably put that in my logbook . . . ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Ragwing on November 01, 2008, 03:05:08 PM
Oh, I will never forget flying Pipers. The small pilot side windows leak in the rain and then flying for hours in a wet seat that my blue jeans simply soaked up.
My first flight was a normal checkout ride. Fly plane, practice stalls and recoveries and remember where the heck the airport is. Due to cloud cover, flew up to 7,000 feet and initiated an approach stall. Slowed way down and pulled back on yoke. Suddenly there was this THUNK from the right wing. I was muttering THUNK??? and turning to look out the right window when suddenly my world turned upside down. ::knockedout:: ::silly:: ::eek:: The Piper had automatic deployment landing gear just in case you forgot. In my case, the checkout CFI "forgot" to tell me about it. So, here I was at 7,000 feet, upside down and going down when the "THUNK" was heard this time from the left wing.
After I executed a graceful recovery, the CFI was laughing his head off and mentioning the stall warning device. He will never know how close he was to exiting the aircraft through the small 4 inch square hole in the pilots window.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: gibbo_335 on November 02, 2008, 03:47:30 AM
::) CFI's ya can't trust 'em ::rofl::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Oddball on November 03, 2008, 03:08:16 PM
that's why I want to keep my feet on the ground and fix them after you lot break 'em.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on November 04, 2008, 09:26:59 AM
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Post by: Rooster Cruiser on November 04, 2008, 09:52:41 AM
Here's my latest ride I am getting a Checkout in. A Pilatus Porter, A.K.A. the PC6. Gonna be doing a little bush flying with both it and a PC12 for the next couple months. Please no smart remarks about the paint job. I didn't select it, I just fly it. ::whistle:: ::whistle:: ::whistle::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Oddball on November 04, 2008, 01:34:52 PM
all i can say R/C is SWEETTTTT!!!! had model one of them and it flew like a dream one of my best flyers ever.........until the sides split open after a heavy landing on a frozen farmers field, ended up rebuilding it with a slight kink in it i never saw, ended up in the fire pit after the first couple of oops's and s***'s after crashing again after a few seconds in the air and the local MAAIB (Model Air Accident investigation Branch) having a look at it ::banghead:: ::banghead::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: vldflight on August 22, 2009, 03:22:29 PM
Older topic but a fun one. As some of you know, I am not a pilot, just a certified aviation nut, first finances and now health keep me out of the loop. But here are a few I have had the honor of jiggling the yoke on in my years.
C-150...about 150lbs ago. dang thing would stall now if I could even squeeze in it. C-172 C-206 Mooney...Not sure which one, long long long time ago. C-130E Only for a few minutes but very enjoyable. B-17G For two glorious hours...I can now die happy. C-47
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: TheSoccerMom on August 23, 2009, 04:45:11 AM
Cool list, mate!!!
Especially the B-17........ WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::bow::
That is awesome! [drool, drool..........]
::bow::
::bow::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Baradium on August 23, 2009, 05:50:26 AM
Nice on the B-17....beautiful airplane.
I guess while I'm here I should add CL-65-200 to the list, since I probably have 800 or 900 hours in it now.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: spacer on August 23, 2009, 02:47:53 PM
I thought I'd posted here in the past, but it ain't showing up on my profile...
Cessna 172N X 2 (this one in Vanuatu ::bow:: nice little plane!!) (http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/2/7/7/1/81698_1199078177_tb.jpg) Cessna 172SP (2001 and 2004 models ;D ) (http://www.flyingcircuits.com.au/Oakey/RAQ_Nav3.png) PA-28R-200 Arrow ... wheels go up ....wheels go down ('Mom helped with that one :D) Cessna 182P Cessna 182Q (http://www.flyingcircuits.com.au/interesting_planes/C182-VH-TRE-Yred26-08-07a.jpg)
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: adam9er on February 23, 2010, 04:53:42 PM
I got to add a Schweizer 333 to the list this year! Yay!
If you thought that was fun, try it with the third seat in it.
It actually has 4 front seats. But the two in the middle must be for very little people.... ::knockedout::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: chuckar101 on July 01, 2010, 02:25:00 PM
Well its been awhile but here is what I've got my hands on.
Quicksilver Ultralight S33 glider Letl23 glider C172(various models) C152 C182 Piper Cherokee Da40 Da42 Twin Star Piper Seminole Symphony Piper Arrow Piper Saratoga Piper Chieftan/Navajo Beech Be99 Beech Be1900 Soon to add Twin Otter, and DC3 TP Not as distinguished as some of the lists but not bad for 4 yrs of flying. ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on July 03, 2010, 06:04:26 AM
Have to add a STUCK-WING Cessna 207 to my list ! ! ! !
Haven't flown anything with non-moving airfoils in at least 5 years. Not the prettiest landing but considering I haven't flown fixed wing and never flown a 207..... ::whistle::
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on July 03, 2010, 06:07:16 AM
Have to add a STUCK-WING Cessna 207 to my list ! ! ! !
Haven't flown anything with non-moving airfoils in at least 5 years. Not the prettiest landing but considering I haven't flown fixed wing and never flown a 207..... ::whistle::
WAIT!! WAAAAAIT!!!
It was a Cessna 206!!!
Sorry my fixed wing friends.... not up to speed on that stuff........ ::sick:: (Chuck doesn't fly one either....) ;D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: gibbo_335 on September 10, 2010, 07:33:44 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D Just added 10 hrs in a PA-46 (AND a Pressureisation Endorsement) :o WOW what an awesome machine Here she is parked in Townsville (Far north Queensland) Yesterday ...HOW HAPPY WAS I to get this bird in my log book!!! The second one is at FL170 on the way home
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on September 19, 2010, 05:46:36 PM
Congrats Shane on getting the high altitude endorsement! |:)\
I noticed that your Malibu is parked next to an old Cessna 404 Businessliner. I think I have around 1800 hours or so in that airplane! Seeing one on a ramp brings back memories for me.
RC
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: 4X-NTY on September 19, 2010, 06:49:40 PM
It looks like a gigantic popcorn! Wait wait wait... Townsville, as in "The city of Townsville" from Power Puff Girls?
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: gibbo_335 on September 19, 2010, 07:15:29 PM
Thanks R/C :-D Yeah that 404 is based in Cairns, a good mate of mine flies that plane unfotunately he wasn't online duty that day.
Have to add a STUCK-WING Cessna 207 to my list ! ! ! !
Haven't flown anything with non-moving airfoils in at least 5 years. Not the prettiest landing but considering I haven't flown fixed wing and never flown a 207..... ::whistle::
WAIT!! WAAAAAIT!!!
It was a Cessna 206!!!
Sorry my fixed wing friends.... not up to speed on that stuff........ ::sick:: (Chuck doesn't fly one either....) ;D
What's wrong with the Cessna 207? ;)
207 (up north they're referred to as the "Sled") is basically a stretched 206.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Baradium on November 19, 2010, 07:33:30 PM
Have to add a STUCK-WING Cessna 207 to my list ! ! ! !
Haven't flown anything with non-moving airfoils in at least 5 years. Not the prettiest landing but considering I haven't flown fixed wing and never flown a 207..... ::whistle::
WAIT!! WAAAAAIT!!!
It was a Cessna 206!!!
Sorry my fixed wing friends.... not up to speed on that stuff........ ::sick:: (Chuck doesn't fly one either....) ;D
What's wrong with the Cessna 207? ;)
207 (up north they're referred to as the "Sled") is basically a stretched 206.
nothing wrong with a 207 those are good work horses....
I just listed the wrong model, I flew a 206 not a 207, thats all....
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Baradium on November 21, 2010, 04:57:07 AM
Have to add a STUCK-WING Cessna 207 to my list ! ! ! !
Haven't flown anything with non-moving airfoils in at least 5 years. Not the prettiest landing but considering I haven't flown fixed wing and never flown a 207..... ::whistle::
WAIT!! WAAAAAIT!!!
It was a Cessna 206!!!
Sorry my fixed wing friends.... not up to speed on that stuff........ ::sick:: (Chuck doesn't fly one either....) ;D
What's wrong with the Cessna 207? ;)
207 (up north they're referred to as the "Sled") is basically a stretched 206.
nothing wrong with a 207 those are good work horses....
I just listed the wrong model, I flew a 206 not a 207, thats all....
Sorry, I was a bit tired and thought you meant you WANTED to add it to your list, not that you flew it!
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Cpt. Blade on December 01, 2010, 05:03:18 PM
Not many yet (I've got into aviation very recently), but here we go:
-Aero Boero AB-115 (I bet you guys never heard about this one!) -Piper Arrow (PA-28R)
Also:
Maule MX-7-180 "Star Rocket" (with conventional gear, very nice to fly) Piper Cherokee (PA-28-140) Piper Saratoga (PA-32R) (I was really surprised by the punch of the engine during takeoff, almost felt like a turboprop)
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Post by: tundra_flier on April 09, 2011, 06:29:27 PM
Logged time: Antares MA-30 w/Stranger Wing Ultralight Cosmos Ultralight Antares MA-33 w/UFO wing Ultralight Citabria 7GCBC (fun plane, great visibility, got my private in it, did some entry level aerobatics) Cherokee 140/160 (great cross country and IFR plane, boring to fly) C-150C (Fun little plane, but a little cramped)
and passenger time in an Arctic Tern and Piper PA-18 Super Cub.
Phil
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on April 26, 2011, 12:31:54 AM
I can now proudly add a Cessna 175 Skylark with an O-360 and a STOL kit to my list ! ! ! PROUDLY !! ::wave::
YEW YEW ! ! !
....very excited, can you tell?!
(was a little rusty at first getting back into FW, not so much the landings but the radios and procedures actually.... not having needed a runway in 10 years ;))
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Post by: tundra_flier on April 26, 2011, 08:08:23 AM
Sounds like a hell of a plane Mike. I'm jealous. >:D
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Post by: Busdriver on April 26, 2011, 11:02:33 AM
(was a little rusty at first getting back into FW, not so much the landings but the radios and procedures actually.... not having needed a runway in 10 years ;))
I'm going to get my SEP back this year, my problem last year when I went flying once, was that I have to force myself not to start the flare latest at 40ft as compared when at work >:D
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Busdriver on July 19, 2011, 05:46:27 PM
Added a new bird in the last weeks: (http://www.bitsandbytes.ch/data/cw/a340.jpg)
So this is the current list: Cessna 152 Cessna 172 Piper Cadet Piper Archer Piper Arrow Piper Seminole Piper Seneca
A319 A320 A321 A330-200 A330-300 A340-300
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Post by: Kilrah on July 19, 2011, 06:36:55 PM
Ooh HB-JMC... I recently spent 11h30 on that one :)
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Post by: ZK Kiwi on July 28, 2011, 01:10:08 AM
Latest on my list - my One of a Kind Avian Adventurer ZK-CKE....
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on July 28, 2011, 03:52:24 AM
Man, this gotta be my favorite thread in the whole forum! ::wave::
Thank you guys so much for keeping it alive! ::bow:: ::bow::
I love to see an A-340 and then an Adventurer right next to eachother!
awesome!
Since this started out more as a list and inititally didn't have that many pictures, how would you feel about a new thread called "post a pic of your ride" or something ??
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on July 28, 2011, 11:41:44 AM
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Since this started out more as a list and inititally didn't have that many pictures, how would you feel about a new thread called "post a pic of your ride" or something ??
Sounds good, Mikey! I'll dig up some old pics from my Twin Cessna days to post, as well as some Citation and PC-12 pics. I'm sure I can repost some like the Great Lakes I ferried a couple years ago too. Lets do it! ;D
RC
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Fabo on July 28, 2011, 01:28:52 PM
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: cotejy on July 29, 2011, 08:04:45 AM
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Since this started out more as a list and inititally didn't have that many pictures, how would you feel about a new thread called "post a pic of your ride" or something ??
I'm agree.
That sentence made me look at my flying picture on my computer. I have so many good memories comming back. Airplane trips I didn't remember of comming back...
The guy is my uncle. He just turned 70 and never went in an airplane. I'm flying a C172 to his farm. I told him: "Jacques, you want to try it?" Without a word, he took control, I never had to explained a thing. The turns were coordinated, attitude was fine! He was flying the thing like I never had.
I took control when we were final because I didn't trust him to do the landing. Today, looking at the picutres, I think uncle Jacques would have done better then me on the landing.
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: ViverGulia on November 26, 2011, 04:38:36 AM
Here is mine:
Cessna 152 Cessna 172 Bratz CB-1 (look it up- NX24B)
I was not pilot in command on any of these. Does that count?
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on November 26, 2011, 04:22:40 PM
I was not pilot in command on any of these. Does that count?
of course! we didn't ask "what have you piloted as PIC so far?" ;D ;)
A "Bratz", huh?! I think it's a biplane but what exactly is it? homebuilt?
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Dysko on November 26, 2011, 10:22:20 PM
I don't have a flying license, but thanks to friends or university promotions (i.e. last year I was able to do 3 glider flights in a day, and in each of them I was in command under the supervision of an instructor, for 50 € due to a collaboration between my university and a flying club), I put my hands on the controls of these: Cessna C172 (actually, the French license-built version Reims F172) Piper PA-28 Cadet Grob G-103 glider Scheibe SF-25C Falke motor glider
The next one will be a float-equipped Piper PA-18 Super Cub, since my friends gave me as a birthday present a seaplane ride where I'll be in command, obviously with an instructor ;) However, I'll have to wait until spring, because in my zone we have a VERY foggy winter (the fog is light when I can see the house on the other side of the road... and I'm not exaggerating :( )
Title: Re: What have you flown so far?
Post by: Mike on November 27, 2011, 05:04:20 PM
That's the plane I did my very first solo in! 25hp VW motor..... a classic! ::wave::
(I actutally soloed 3 times, glider in Europe, then fixed wing in the States, then helicopter) You know what they say . . . you never forget your first one! ;D
