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Title: Mustang belly lands at Point Cook....NNNNOOOOOOoooooo :'(
Post by: gibbo_335 on May 02, 2008, 12:34:19 AM
 :'(  :o I can't believe it  ::eek:: !!!!  :'( :'( :'(  At least it is repairable  |:)\


As most Aussie aviation enthusiasts know, VH-BOB (CAC CA-18 Mk.21 Mustang) had a wheels up landing on Saturday afternoon at Point Cook (Victoria) after the failure of one of the "Clam Shell" inner Main Landing Gear (MLG) doors prevented the MLG from being lowered.  There is an emergency procedure to lower the gear; however due to the way the RH inner door failed, this prevented this procedure from being enacted. 

As can be seen from the attached photos, taken by one of the CFA members, the RH door is hanging down.  It should be fully closed!

Despite repeated attempts by the pilot, including inverted negative G manoeuvres, to depressurise the main hydraulic system thereby unlatching the "Clam Shell" inner doors, he was unable to do so.  With the Clam Shell doors unlatched, the pilot would then normally select "MLG Down" and the gear will free fall and lock into place.  Obviously this did not take place.

The quick initial damage assessment is:
Engine bulk strip / overhaul ( approx $150,000.00 AUD),
New prop - (Approx $100,000.00 AUD),
New radiator scoop and associated equipment,
New radiator scoop support structure (called the "Dog Box"),
RH flap rebuild,
LH flap rebuild,
RH Clam Shell door rebuild.

This does not include all the NDI inspections of structure, etc.

It is the intention of the owner the "BOB" will be repaired as soon as practically possible.

In addition to the above, some of you may not know that the RAAF Museum's Mustang A68-170 also had a wheels up landing in 1954 at RAAF Base Williamtown (total engine failure at 500 feet in the circuit).  It was also rebuilt and put back into service.
Title: Re: Mustang belly lands at Point Cook....NNNNOOOOOOoooooo :'(
Post by: gibbo_335 on May 02, 2008, 12:45:06 AM
Found VIDEO of it!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KishzUtX2H0&feature=related

 |:)\ John Dorward  |:)\ YOU ROK MATE!!!  ::bow:: ::bow::
Title: Re: Mustang belly lands at Point Cook....NNNNOOOOOOoooooo :'(
Post by: FlyboyGil on May 02, 2008, 12:52:14 AM
Just as long as they don't turn it into a car!  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Mustang belly lands at Point Cook....NNNNOOOOOOoooooo :'(
Post by: AirScorp on May 02, 2008, 05:38:24 AM
Just a bit of thought.. I know that with a two blade prop you can try to stop the engine with the prop horizontal (Whiskered or something I think it's called) so you save the engine the shock of having to smash it on the ground..
Do you think that would have made any sense with this mustang?
Title: Re: Mustang belly lands at Point Cook....NNNNOOOOOOoooooo :'(
Post by: Oddball on May 02, 2008, 06:53:36 AM
aye john dorward done a great bit of flying there and had a passenger too  |:)\ |:)\
Title: Re: Mustang belly lands at Point Cook....NNNNOOOOOOoooooo :'(
Post by: Fabo on May 02, 2008, 09:46:02 AM
Just a bit of thought.. I know that with a two blade prop you can try to stop the engine with the prop horizontal (Whiskered or something I think it's called) so you save the engine the shock of having to smash it on the ground..
Do you think that would have made any sense with this mustang?

Hardly... it has 4 blade prop, and that means that there will always be at least one blade hitting ground.

You could have seen this procedure done with gear-up in Swansea recently.
Title: Re: Mustang belly lands at Point Cook....NNNNOOOOOOoooooo :'(
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on May 02, 2008, 05:40:08 PM
Just a bit of thought.. I know that with a two blade prop you can try to stop the engine with the prop horizontal (Whiskered or something I think it's called) so you save the engine the shock of having to smash it on the ground..
Do you think that would have made any sense with this mustang?

A Mustang is a very high performance airplane, and without power it has the glide angle of a crowbar.  Intentionally shutting down the engine and then performing a dead-stick landing would be a dicey proposition at best and could easily prove fatal.  Better to sacrifice the engine and prop blades and belly it in with power, which is what he did.  His only other option would have been to hit the "silk elevator" and sacrifice the entire airplane.

This guy did a fine job.  The airplane is repairable.   |:)\ |:)\ |:)\ |:)\ |:)\ |:)\
Title: Re: Mustang belly lands at Point Cook....NNNNOOOOOOoooooo :'(
Post by: PiperGirl on May 02, 2008, 08:38:36 PM
That's sad... :'( Poor Mustang! At least it can be repaired (a few $K later)
Title: Re: Mustang belly lands at Point Cook....NNNNOOOOOOoooooo :'(
Post by: AirScorp on May 03, 2008, 02:07:59 AM
A Mustang is a very high performance airplane, and without power it has the glide angle of a crowbar.  Intentionally shutting down the engine and then performing a dead-stick landing would be a dicey proposition at best and could easily prove fatal.  Better to sacrifice the engine and prop blades and belly it in with power, which is what he did.  His only other option would have been to hit the "silk elevator" and sacrifice the entire airplane.

This guy did a fine job.  The airplane is repairable.   |:)\ |:)\ |:)\ |:)\ |:)\ |:)\

No doubt about it! Thanks for the expanation! That's what I was looking for anyway, the "why" this was necessary because I already knew it was!

Hardly... it has 4 blade prop, and that means that there will always be at least one blade hitting ground.

You could have seen this procedure done with gear-up in Swansea recently.

That's why I asked, my limited knowledge would only take me that far!
Title: Re: Mustang belly lands at Point Cook....NNNNOOOOOOoooooo :'(
Post by: RagDragger on May 03, 2008, 02:52:46 AM
Ouch.  Well, a good landing if he lived, right?
Title: Re: Mustang belly lands at Point Cook....NNNNOOOOOOoooooo :'(
Post by: chuckar101 on May 08, 2008, 02:27:27 AM
They just had the douse the thing with all that foam there at the end.  Just keep racking up the dollars.
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