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Offline Ted_Stryker

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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #90 on: September 08, 2006, 05:57:00 PM »
Quote from: tundra_flier on September 08, 2006, 05:23:28 AM
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Oh dear, that's really qualified for this thread indeed, almost with a scholarship too! I take it that no accidents happend, hopefully.

Frank

No accidents that I heard of.  But I have to wonder what some of the guys in air did when told to "hold current position".  What if you're on short final? 

Phil

I think you have to activate  your stasis field button and warp time around your aircraft so you can stay in that one spot :)

Oh... sorry... Star Trek's anniversary today (September 8, 1966 was it's premier :) )     ;D
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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #91 on: September 11, 2006, 09:41:19 PM »
2 things come to mind; 1 from Gary Larson of "The Far Side" and 1 that actually happened to me.

Larson's srtip: "Hey! What's that mountain goat doing in a cloud!?"

Me: I was flying safety pilot for a fellow aeroclub member that was practicing stalls under the hood (getting ready for his IFR check ride). Well, the nitwit cross-controlled the plane and put us into a spin.

I yelled "We're spinning get us out!" His reply? "I DON'T KNOW HOW!"

All I can say is thank god for altitude and recent acro training I'd taken or we'd both be dead!
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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #92 on: September 12, 2006, 02:30:43 AM »
Quote from: FB41 on September 11, 2006, 09:41:19 PM

Me: I was flying safety pilot for a fellow aeroclub member that was practicing stalls under the hood (getting ready for his IFR check ride). Well, the nitwit cross-controlled the plane and put us into a spin.

I yelled "We're spinning get us out!" His reply? "I DON'T KNOW HOW!"

All I can say is thank god for altitude and recent acro training I'd taken or we'd both be dead!


Ouch!  I'll bet that woke you up!

I'm glad you were in an aircraft that can recover from a spin.  Kudos on saving your butts and the airframe.
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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2006, 01:41:43 AM »
Quote from: Baradium on September 12, 2006, 02:30:43 AM
Quote from: FB41 on September 11, 2006, 09:41:19 PM

Me: I was flying safety pilot for a fellow aeroclub member that was practicing stalls under the hood (getting ready for his IFR check ride). Well, the nitwit cross-controlled the plane and put us into a spin.

I yelled "We're spinning get us out!" His reply? "I DON'T KNOW HOW!"

All I can say is thank god for altitude and recent acro training I'd taken or we'd both be dead!


Ouch!  I'll bet that woke you up!

I'm glad you were in an aircraft that can recover from a spin.  Kudos on saving your butts and the airframe.


I've been shot at and it didn't scare me as bad as his response!

We were originally gonna take a Warrior (PA28), but due to maintenance issues ended up with a good ol' 172... I daresay if he'd'a spun a PA28, I'd be dead now.

Anyone that hasn't had spin training oughtta get it.
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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #94 on: September 13, 2006, 02:13:57 AM »
While on long finals at night in a PA28, slightly high due to being #2 to a Convair, with another cherokee following me:

Tower: 'EBM (the other cherokee), ah... do you have the Cherokee ahead of you in sight?'

EBM: 'Negative'

Tower: (momentary pause) 'ah... EBM make one left hand orbit'

I looked behind me as best I could, and saw lights emerge from just below and behind me. :o

That woke me up!!!  ::)
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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #95 on: September 13, 2006, 02:17:34 AM »
Can cherokees/warriors not do spins?  I don't have a lot of time in them...
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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #96 on: September 13, 2006, 05:10:24 AM »
I reckon they can, but I've never done one. They're stable to the point where flap and power is used to induce wing-drops... but I do have my theories about that.  ;)
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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #97 on: September 13, 2006, 05:11:36 AM »
Co-pilot: "Uh, did we need that?"
Pilot: "Lord, I hope not..."
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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #98 on: September 13, 2006, 09:10:27 PM »
Quote from: Baradium on September 13, 2006, 02:17:34 AM
Can cherokees/warriors not do spins?  I don't have a lot of time in them...

Every one I've ever flown has been placarded against intentional spins. From what I'm told, they lose a lot of altitude in the recovery.

I do know of one dude that spins his PA28-140 routinely, but this guy is a brick shy of a full load...
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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #99 on: September 13, 2006, 10:17:36 PM »
Well the rudder is pretty small...  :-[
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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #100 on: September 13, 2006, 10:35:36 PM »
I concur... the PA28-141s, etc., that I've flown have also been placarded against intentional spins.

Part of the problem is not just the rudder authority being weak, but also that those Piper models tend to "flat spin", and it can be unrecoverable with aft CG... yes... even if within the CG limits... if it's aft of COB it's EXTREMELY dangerous.

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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #101 on: October 11, 2006, 09:43:08 PM »
I forget if you can get the Warrior into the Utility category...

They are very stable, and almost always break straight on a stall.  I remember the Arrow was a little more squirrelly, but still docile compared to Cessnas.
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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #102 on: October 12, 2006, 02:19:10 AM »
"What's that bright, blinking light for?"
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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #103 on: October 12, 2006, 03:15:23 AM »
"It's never done THAT before."
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Re: Things you never want to hear
« Reply #104 on: October 12, 2006, 03:45:23 AM »
"Hmmmmm"


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