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Offline Panzerrat

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Way low KC-135
« on: December 31, 2006, 05:22:44 AM »
I've seen some low flying before, but DAMN...!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8b8fe10151
"You call this bad? I'll tell you what bad is....Bad is passing test depth at 80 feet per second with a thirty degree down bubble. Compared to that, this is a walk in the park.”

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2006, 06:32:05 AM »
That's a pretty good sized RC airplane.  8)

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2006, 07:13:45 AM »
Those french people like flying low eh? First the video with the Super Puma helicopter and now this? Kind of funny they got mad at the dude flying thrue the Eiffel Tower then, unless it was due to it being performed by a non-french pilot (Note: That last part was just a joke of course for reasons that I'm sure are obvious to the veteran posters here).

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2006, 07:25:27 AM »
WOW ::bow:: that guy has got cajones galore--maybe I'm not seeing it right but they looked like they were about 100 AGL at one point-----I've made passes at half a wingspan but never at those speeds, they looked to clocking 400 or better--made the hair stand up on my neck ::unbelieveable::

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2006, 12:20:27 PM »
My friend showed this to me about a month or two ago.  It got sent around the college a lot and we determined it had to be an RC plane.  Based off the size.  Look at the people in the video, take that size then compare it to the bushes, and then the plane.  Its a huge plane, but definately not a real one.

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2006, 07:18:31 PM »
My friend showed this to me about a month or two ago.  It got sent around the college a lot and we determined it had to be an RC plane.  Based off the size.  Look at the people in the video, take that size then compare it to the bushes, and then the plane.  Its a huge plane, but definately not a real one.
NAWWWWWW!!!!!
Looked over again---can't see how that could be anything other than real----or maybe my tired old eyes are decieving me ::thinking::

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2006, 07:30:17 PM »
I agree with fireflyr.  The Desert will do strange things to your eyes regarding perspective.  'Sides, aren't those engines a little, well, loud for a RC aircraft.  Also, I've never seen anyone that enthused about a low RC plane.  One other thing, if that's not in the middle of nowhere, I don't kow what is.
"You call this bad? I'll tell you what bad is....Bad is passing test depth at 80 feet per second with a thirty degree down bubble. Compared to that, this is a walk in the park.”

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2006, 07:37:38 PM »
I agree with fireflyr.  The Desert will do strange things to your eyes regarding perspective.  'Sides, aren't those engines a little, well, loud for a RC aircraft.  Also, I've never seen anyone that enthused about a low RC plane.  One other thing, if that's not in the middle of nowhere, I don't kow what is.
Thanks, and by the way, was ist mit PANZER rat----you a fan of german tanks ???

undatc

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2006, 08:01:47 PM »
Well you guys can believe what you want.  However, ill take my Aerodynamics professors word, who has a PhD in Aerospace physics that, its a huge RC plane.

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2006, 08:06:47 PM »
http://www.worldairnews.ch/images/2004/FAF_KC35_FUCxx.jpg
Check the size, then look at the still photo where it's right at the jeeps and people and remember the shadow isn't necessarily directly under the plane. Of course it can still be remote controlled, but it's not a scale model from what I can tell. It says somewhere it's in Chad.

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2006, 08:08:55 PM »
I agree thats way to big to be a RC.  It might be remote controlled but either way it looks full size.  Great link though.
WOW I did that!

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2006, 08:15:51 PM »
I agree with fireflyr.  The Desert will do strange things to your eyes regarding perspective.  'Sides, aren't those engines a little, well, loud for a RC aircraft.  Also, I've never seen anyone that enthused about a low RC plane.  One other thing, if that's not in the middle of nowhere, I don't kow what is.
Thanks, and by the way, was ist mit PANZER rat----you a fan of german tanks ???

Despite being a former bubble head, yes I'm a fan of almost all armor.  The Army wouldn't guarentee me tanks back in '88, but the Navy swore I'd get the boats.  I'm a WWII history buff, and a guy on the boat started calling me Panzerrat.  I like it as a screen name.  I never have to add numbers behind it on forums.  Only Yahoo.

I took three years of German in high school, but do I remember anything but a few words?  No.

Undatc, no offense to your prof, but a PhD doen't make you automatically right, either.
"You call this bad? I'll tell you what bad is....Bad is passing test depth at 80 feet per second with a thirty degree down bubble. Compared to that, this is a walk in the park.”

undatc

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2006, 08:45:49 PM »
He seems to think he's always right.  Here is what was origionally said to back his side up, one being no markings on the plane.  No tail stripe (telling you where its based out of), no USAF tag near the cockpit, and no stars on the wings on body.  Also the nose black paint is wrong.  Though this could be a forgien plane, however i dont recognize the flag on the tail.
http://web.tiscali.it/ivancorso/img_support/KC-135/foto_kc135d.jpg

Also, the tail is missing a big "node" on it, if you look it doesnt have that either. Those are 4 engine planes, probably in the neighborhood of 160-180db of sound.  Listen to how loud the guys are, and that plane was what? 200 yards away max, it should have been a lot louder.  I have flown next to these guys, a squadren of them are based at grand forks AFB and ive been 500ft above them crossing, and i could hear them at that, it was deafening even over my engine.

And also wake turbulence.  He is probably what 50-100ft off the ground?  Wake turbulence is most pronounced when low, slow, and heavy.  The KC is a heavy(even classified as a heavy for ATC), and is pretty slow there, considering it tops out over 500mph.  Look at the desert, no dust, none of the trees move.  The vorticies produced by that plane would have kicked up a lot of dust and there was nothing.

**Edit**
On closer look, it looks like that tail flag is of the Swiss Air Force.  Looking on Wikipedia, there are currently a few countries that operate KC-135's, the US Air Force, Australia, Brazil, Canada, France, Israel ,Italy, Morocco, Singapore, Spain, South Africa, Turkey, & Venezuela.  Other models were sold to many other countries, but those are the only ones using it as a tanker.  And the one in the shot is a tanker, as you can see the refueling boom.

Also, The KC-135 was modified to the KC-135Q/A to serve the blackbird, only 56 were made.

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2006, 09:22:07 PM »
WELL! T  he PHd is entitled to his opinion, the still photo sure makes it clearer.
As far as wake turbulence blowing dust from a 400 knot airplane @ 100 feet---only in hollywood ::rofl::
And the noise level---take a look at the nacelles, the original low bypass engines have been replaced and I'll wager a quart of Southern Comfort that high-bypass engines set to a low cruise setting (as in a diving pass) would be a mere whisper (comparatively)   My degree in Bovine Scatology and 50 years of watching airplanes gives my opinion just as much weight as the professors ::cowboy::

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Re: Way low KC-135
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2006, 09:24:33 PM »
People have been saying that this is a French Air Force KC-135.  On excercises in Djibouti or Chad.  'Sides, most militarys are big on low visibility (or whatever they call 'em) markings.
"You call this bad? I'll tell you what bad is....Bad is passing test depth at 80 feet per second with a thirty degree down bubble. Compared to that, this is a walk in the park.”