taking off with one million pounds!

[Ragwing]

Dude!  Why the heck were they so slow to get the pilots out of the plane?

It sure did not make sense to me either.

Forget the slide, I would have simply exited the door, window or anywhere else I could squeeze out of.
No way would I stick around to become French Fries........

[Oddball]

in one way maybe it would of been a bit safer staying put, dont fancy being shredded by exploding tyres, seen a photo of a Mech inflating a HGV tyre outside of the inflating cage when it popped blowing him through the roof of the garage.

[Mike]

Now they are at the "dragging the tail across the runway" phase!

I love that phase!


http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/10/video-sparks-fly-as-boeing-drags-787-tail-on-the-runway/

[Baradium]

10 miles wake turbulence seperation?  That's going to mess everything up haha,   it's 5 miles behind a 747...

[undatc]

Very cool Rag that you're helping design the new jumbo!

I gotta say I've really enjoyed working the planes in their testing.  Between the 787's and the 748's cruising around my airspace on a daily basis, I think we at ZSE are kinda a proud silent papa mentality that we've 'helped' you guys get the job done.   

Of note, the pics of ZA001 over the Oregon coast (and the subsequent commercial that has footage of it flying), were just over North Bend, OR ( OTH ) and I was actually working that aircraft during the pictures.  I remember calling the brand new tower that was just built and told them to look out over the water to catch a glimpse of her as the passed by.

[Ragwing]

we at ZSE are kinda a proud silent papa mentality that we've 'helped' you guys get the job done.   

undatc,
From the ATC's who route the test aircraft and stay on their toes to the mechanics who fix the kicksheets.
The 787 will have a higher cabin air pressure and more moisture than everybody is use to.

There are a lot of unsung hero's as everybody works to bring these babies to life.
Thanks for keeping them safe.

[undatc]

BOE503 (aka one the the new H/B748 was down in my airspace yesterday.  Got down to about OTH and turned around and went back North, only got to talk to him for about 5 min.

On the other hand ZA002 (aka dreamliner #2) was cruising around my area two days ago looking for TB.  Gave him a block 100B320 for awhile (you have no idea how much of a coordination nightmare it is to give away that much altitude, at one point in time it involved the coordination of 7 different atc sectors) but couldnt find anything.  The next days rides were crap and we even had some severe TB at FL380.  Oh well.  As ZA002 turned around and headed North along V27, a amflight PA31 was south bound and they passed opposite direction at minimum separation, hope that Navajo pilot had a camera, woulda been a helluva shot.

[Baradium]

Last Saturday we were flying and our controller asked an aircraft (by N number) what their indicated was.  After a response of .90 mach he asked if they'd always be going that fast and he replied "normal cruise will be around .86 or .88 mach, but it can go up to .92"  (honestly it might have been .94 mach, it was a long day).   We were talking about what kind of aircraft it could be when someone else finally asked and it was a 747-8.... I never thought that big bird would be cruising so fast.

[Ragwing]

I never thought that big bird would be cruising so fast.

The Boeing 747 cruises at around 0.85 Mach.
the Vmo/Mmo (maximum operating speed/mach) for the -200 is 0.89 Mach.  The 747-400 it's 0.92 Mach.

The specs for the 747-8 are Vmo at 35,000 ft - Mach 0.92

Also, note, it is listed as the Vmo......  I have yet to see an aircraft that cannot do better than that.

[undatc]

Very slick both the 748 and the 787 are crazy fast (though the 787 not so much right now), of note; Gulfstream just set a new record for the worlds fastest civilian jet in the G650, mach .995 

[Mike]

Very slick both the 748 and the 787 are crazy fast (though the 787 not so much right now), of note; Gulfstream just set a new record for the worlds fastest civilian jet in the G650, mach .995 

doesn't the "Citation X" go just as fast?

(rumor has it they even went over the magical number "1" but aerodynamically I don't think it works that way....)

[undatc]

The C750 tops out at .92 per wikipedia, and the high speed cruise of the G650 is .925 so it wins, barely lol.

But during flutter testing with a 16-18 nose down attitude, the G650 hit .995.

http://www.gulfstream.com/news/releases/2010/gulfstream-g650-reaches-mach-0.995.htm

[Baradium]

I never thought that big bird would be cruising so fast.

The Boeing 747 cruises at around 0.85 Mach.
the Vmo/Mmo (maximum operating speed/mach) for the -200 is 0.89 Mach.  The 747-400 it's 0.92 Mach.

The specs for the 747-8 are Vmo at 35,000 ft - Mach 0.92

Also, note, it is listed as the Vmo......  I have yet to see an aircraft that cannot do better than that.

I can give you plenty of aircraft that can't do better than that.  A lot of jets...   All the Canadairs (Bombardier) for one.

[B-7]

Over 450 tons! Man, that's empressive! So what's the next frontier?