New Sleeper Cabin Concept Unveiled

[Morpheus]

Check out this recent article from the Dubai Chronicle: http://www.dubaichronicle.com/?p=735#more-735

Do you think it’ll fly?

[Frank N. O.]

Hi there Morpheus, hmm that's interesting however I'm not sure the FAA will approve that, but a personal cabin sounds interesting, and the sketches does look really cool in a futuristic way, I'm kind-of thinking The Fifth Element meets Star Trek here. Being able to lie down without bothering the person behind you also sounds like a good idea.

Frank

[chuckar101]

I agreewith you frank.It will take awhile for the faa to approve it and its still a concept will it actually be cheaper in the long run.

[Morpheus]

That's a very good point, guys; I think that is the biggest challenge this concept will face.

[Mitchell99]

Imagine structural strength that would have to support the upper deck in the event of a crash. By adding that amount of strength your going to have to add a significant amount of weight.  Not good to have the upper deck collapse on the people sitting in the lower deck     Yes.... I know there are lighter weight materials but those would only increase the $$$$$$    It's a great concept but I would be surprised if we ever see it for real.

[4X-NTY]

Oh... all the problems this design got,first of all,as it been said before, they'll need something to support it,in the sketch there's about,i dont know,an inch or two thick,not many materials would stand the weight of those two chairs and to people,and those who would woudn't stand a hard landing,not talking about crash.
The stairs looks horrible,many people gonna fall from them,they don't seem so stable, unless they go into the wall for about 50cm,if not they're gonna bend down really fast.
What's that thing up there?
But i like how it looks,as frank said,very fifth element (on of the greatest movies).

[Morpheus]

Imagine structural strength that would have to support the upper deck in the event of a crash. By adding that amount of strength your going to have to add a significant amount of weight.

I see it from a different perspective.  This concept changes several components inside the passenger cabin.  If one looks closely at the images from the article, there are no overhead luggage compartments; the luggage compartments are inside the modules.  In that location, the compartments can be anchored and fastened at additional points.  Conventional baggage compartments are anchored at only one side, and literally hang from the ceiling; this means their structure must be far more reinforced and, thus, heavy.
Another element that is missing in the images—because there is no need for it using this design—is the passenger cabin’s ceiling structure; an element that also adds weight.

Also, just like the luggage compartments inside the modules, the modules themselves can be anchored and fastened at more points than conventional seats, which are anchored at just one heavily reinforced point. 

Not good to have the upper deck collapse on the people sitting in the lower deck     Yes.... I know there are lighter weight materials but those would only increase the $$$$$$    It's a great concept but I would be surprised if we ever see it for real.

In my opinion, the entire structure formed by all the modules together can work as a kind of skeleton, reinforcing the airplane from the inside; so, far from posing a hazard for passengers, I think it could actually help protect them in the event of a survivable crash. 

What do you guys think? 

[Morpheus]

What's that thing up there?

What thing? 

But i like how i looks,as frank said,very fifth element (on of the greatest movies).

Can't argue with that! 

[4X-NTY]

that thing,the one circled with red.
by the way,i just noticed that that stairs are just connected to the tube or something like that,boy,if it were real and just like that, if nobody would fall,I'm buying everyone on the forum his favourite drink,twice.

[Morpheus]

that thing,the one circled with red.

Ohhh... that thing. I’d say it’s a reading light; but, since it's just a drawing, it could be pretty much anything. 

by the way,i just noticed that that stairs are just connected to the tube or something like that,boy,if it were real and just like that, if nobody would fall,I'm buying everyone on the forum his favourite drink,twice.

Actually, I think the best thing—from an engineering point of view—would be for the stairs to be integrated to the luggage bin; that way, they would have more support points.

I agree with you—if they were real, and just like that, you would have to buy all those drinks!

[FlyboyGil]

if it were real and just like that, if nobody would fall,I'm buying everyone on the forum his favourite drink,twice.

What about the strippers?

[Oddball]

some how i dont think strippers are a strong enough material to make that cabin gill  but trust you to remember the imprtant things.

[tundra_flier]

Why do I see the airlines using this to double the number of non-reclining seats instead?   
considering how the airline industry seems to be struggling lately, I just can't see them doing anything that might reduce the number of passengers per flight.  And very few people would be willing to pay much extra for this.

Phil 

[Morpheus]

Why do I see the airlines using this to double the number of non-reclining seats instead?   

Now that would be wicked!    But I don’t think they would be able to do that; if you analyze the design closely, you'll see that the system simply wouldn't allow non-reclining seats—the modules would have to be too tall.

I just can't see them doing anything that might reduce the number of passengers per flight.

A quote from the article: "...the system’s designers affirm that, having taken into account the precise dimensions of an actual Airbus A380 cabin, several abh layouts for three-class arrangements have been attained already that can accommodate as many as 580 passengers - hat’s 25 more seats than the standard 555 seat configuration for a three-class arrangement in an A380."

[chuckar101]

Problem is that is and A380.  Its already bigger and most of the set ups have the regular seats having a lot more ammenities then a conventional airliner set up.  But if that is true great, I just doubt it would be economical for a smaller aircraft.  But I'm no engineer and only really care about the seats in the front.