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US Air Carrier Pilot age limit raised to 65
« on: December 15, 2007, 03:29:28 AM »
This was emailed to me yesterday from the FAA.  I thought I would post it in case anyone here might not have heard about it.  Comments?

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InFO - President Today Signed Age 65 Into Law
Notice Number: NOTC1079


Subject:

President Today Signed Age 65 Into Law, Affecting Pilots Under Part 121
Purpose:

This InFO announces the "Fair Treatment for Experienced Pilots Act" (the Act), effective immediately, December 13, 2007, and highlights key provisions of the Act.
Background:

In November, 2006, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) revised the maximum age for certain pilots in international operations from age 60 to age 65. Until 12/13/07, the United States, an ICAO member state, limited its pilots operating under Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (14 CFR) part 121 to age 60. Now those pilots may continue until age 65, as specified in the Act.
Discussion:

Key provisions of the Act include the following:

. As of 12/13/07, part 121, § 121.383(c), specifying age 60, ceases to be effective.



. A pilot age 60+ acting as pilot in command (PIC) in international operations must be paired with a pilot under age 60 (consistent with the current ICAO requirement).



. In domestic operations both pilots may be age 60+.



. It permits the continued employment of a pilot who reaches age 60 on or after 12/13/07.



. It permits the employment as a new-hire a pilot who reached age 60 before 12/13/07.



. A pilot age 60+ will not be subjected to different, greater, or more frequent medical exams.



. Any pilot age 60+ must hold a first-class medical certificate, renewable on a 6-month cycle.



. Any air carrier employing pilots age 60+ must adjust its training program to ensure such pilots' skill and judgment continue at acceptable levels.



. Any pilot age 60+ must undergo a line check at 6-month intervals.



. For a pilot age 60+ acting as second in command (SIC), a regularly scheduled simulator evaluation may substitute for a required line check.


Recommended Action:

Directors of safety, directors of operations, chief pilots, trainers, and pilots under part 121 should be aware of the Act and should collaborate immediately in implementing its provisions.
The exact language of the Act can be downloaded at the following public Web site:

http://thomas.loc.gov . In the "Search Bill Text" box click on "Bill Number," enter "HR 4343" and click Search.
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Re: US Air Carrier Pilot age limit raised to 65
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2007, 04:11:52 AM »
Whats funny is..Of the 5 pilots where I work---I am the only one UNDER the age of 60..  ::eek::  ::eek::  I call myself "Generation Hair"  ::whistle:: ::drinking:: ::drinking:: ::whistle:: Luckily they do not frequent this site--otherwise I would be in for a good "ass kicking"--or would that be a good "cane beating"..  ::rofl:: ::rofl:: ::whistle:: ::whistle::
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Re: US Air Carrier Pilot age limit raised to 65
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2007, 04:31:06 AM »
HMMMM, I'm 66----maybe I should check out Depends adult diapers pretty soon--- ::rofl::

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Re: US Air Carrier Pilot age limit raised to 65
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2007, 04:44:36 AM »
HMMMM, I'm 66----maybe I should check out Depends adult diapers pretty soon--- ::rofl::

You asked for it---where do I show up for the ass kicking??

Over The Hill

1. Kidnappers are not very interested in you.
2. In a hostage situation you are likely to be released first.
3. No one expects you to run into a burning building.
4. People call at 9 PM and ask, "Did I wake you?"
5. People no longer view you as a hypochondriac.
6. There is nothing left to learn the hard way.
7. Things you buy now won't wear out.
8. You can eat dinner at 4 P.M.
9. You can live without sex but not without glasses.
10. You enjoy hearing about other peoples operations.
11. You get into heated arguments about pension plans.
12. You have a party and the neighbors don't even realize it.
13. You no longer think of speed limits as a challenge.
14. You quit trying to hold your stomach in, no matter who walks into the room.
15. You sing along with elevator music.
16. Your eyes won't get much worse.
17. Your health plan is beginning to pay off.
18. Your joints are more accurate meteorologists than the national weather service.
19. Your secrets are safe with your friends because they can't remember them either.
20. Your supply of brain cells is finally down to manageable size.
21. You can't remember what web site you're on right now.

GAMES FOR WHEN WE ARE OLDER

1. Sag, You're it.
2. Pin the Toupee on the bald guy.
3. 20 questions shouted into your good ear.
4. Kick the bucket.
5. Red Rover, Red Rover, the nurse says Bend Over.
6. Doc Goose.
7. Simon says something incoherent.
8. Hide and go pee.
9. Spin the Bottle of Mylanta.
10. Musical recliners.

SIGNS OF MENOPAUSE

1. You sell your home heating system at a yard sale.
2. Your husband jokes that instead of buying a wood stove, he is using you to heat the family room this winter. Rather than just saying you are not amused, you shoot him.
3. You have to write post-it notes with your kids' names on them.
4. The Phenobarbital dose that wiped out the Heaven's Gate Cult gives you four hours of decent rest.
5. You change your underwear after every sneeze.
6. You're on so much estrogen that you take your Brownie troop on a field trip to Chippendales.

SIGNS OF WEAR

"OLD" IS WHEN..... Your sweetie says, "Let's go upstairs and make love,"and you answer, "Pick one, I can't do both!"

"OLD" IS WHEN..... Your friends compliment You on your new alligator shoes and you're barefoot.

"OLD" IS WHEN..... A sexy babe catches your fancy and your pacemaker opens the garage door.

"OLD" IS WHEN..... Going bra-less pulls all the wrinkles out of your face.

"OLD" IS WHEN..... You don't care where your spouse goes, just as long as you don't have to go along.

"OLD" IS WHEN..... You are cautioned to slow down by the doctor instead of by the police.

"OLD" IS WHEN..... "Getting a little action" means I don't need to take any fiber today.

"OLD" IS WHEN..... "Getting lucky" means you find your car in the parking lot.

"OLD" IS WHEN..... An "all-nighter" means not getting up to pee.
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Re: US Air Carrier Pilot age limit raised to 65
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2007, 10:17:02 AM »
Well, bad news for me...
"Well I know what's right, I got just one life
In a world that keeps on pushin' me around
But I stand my ground, and I won't back down"
  -Johnny Cash "I won't back Down"

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Re: US Air Carrier Pilot age limit raised to 65
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2007, 04:29:32 PM »
Well, bad news for me...

Not really, you'll get there alright, but, with a little more regional experience than you had anticipated---and you'll get it back on the other end |:)\ |:)\ |:)\

Be patient and it will be a win-win situation 8)
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Re: US Air Carrier Pilot age limit raised to 65
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2007, 04:30:08 PM »
A pilot age 60+ acting as pilot in command (PIC)......  must be paired with a pilot under age 60 (consistent with the current ICAO requirement).

Now, if they would just address the issue of when the PIC has an IQ less than 60, that he should be paired with another pilot, whose IQ is OVER 60......

 ::whistle::
Don't make me come back there!!!!

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Re: US Air Carrier Pilot age limit raised to 65
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2007, 04:39:22 PM »
G-man, watch your six, I just had high speed wheels installed on my walker (gonna getcha fer that one) ::rambo::

Smommy, you mean there are people who fly for a living who HAVE an IQ over 60? ::unbelieveable::

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Re: US Air Carrier Pilot age limit raised to 65
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2007, 04:52:31 PM »
Uhm, I bin TOLE that......  but Ah'm not sherr.... 

 ;)
Don't make me come back there!!!!

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Re: US Air Carrier Pilot age limit raised to 65
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2007, 07:20:15 PM »
Well, bad news for me...

Not really, you'll get there alright, but, with a little more regional experience than you had anticipated---and you'll get it back on the other end |:)\ |:)\ |:)\

Be patient and it will be a win-win situation 8)

I guess that's a way to look at it.   The prospect of another 5 years at the poverty level isn't too appealing either though for guys who aren't at least close to PIC upgrades.
"Well I know what's right, I got just one life
In a world that keeps on pushin' me around
But I stand my ground, and I won't back down"
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Re: US Air Carrier Pilot age limit raised to 65
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2007, 04:52:31 PM »
Well, bad news for me...

Not really, you'll get there alright, but, with a little more regional experience than you had anticipated---and you'll get it back on the other end |:)\ |:)\ |:)\

Be patient and it will be a win-win situation 8)

I guess that's a way to look at it.   The prospect of another 5 years at the poverty level isn't too appealing either though for guys who aren't at least close to PIC upgrades.
I believe Baradium is doing (I hope) some of the most interesting flying that he will ever do (like your freight-dog days) and the experience aquired will probably make him an "ace of the base" when he does transition to flying heavies |:)\ |:)\   AND, even if the wages are not the greatest, he'll prove he's a winner by simple persistance |:)\ |:)\ 

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Re: US Air Carrier Pilot age limit raised to 65
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2007, 03:07:17 AM »
G-man, watch your six, I just had high speed wheels installed on my walker (gonna getcha fer that one) ::rambo::

Smommy, you mean there are people who fly for a living who HAVE an IQ over 60? ::unbelieveable::

Always chicking my six--I work with the three stooges--you may have come accross them on a fire--I know Mike has-- Uncles, Larry, Barry and Bruce. I'm sure you have guessed by now, that I spend most of my time baiting and then running, (well walking--they're not that fast), away from the "ole dodgers" trying to give me an ass kicking..

As for the IQ thing--I'll repost my previous pic:

Life may not be the party we hoped for---but while we're here--we might as well dance..........