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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2007, 08:54:41 PM »
You're right Fabo.  I don't know what the civilian equivilant is called.  Maybe the L130?

L100, as stated above ;)
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2007, 09:59:48 PM »

Only four Martin Mars aircraft were ever built.  They are flying boats with no landing gear, and they were built for the US Navy during WWII by the Glenn L Martin aircraft company.  They were the largest production flying boats ever built.  The Navy used them primarily to run high priority parts between the mainland US and Pearl Harbor naval station in Hawaii during the war.  Only two of them are currently operated by the Coulson Flying Tankers company in British Columbia. http://www.martinmars.com/  Those two are the Phillipine Mars and Hawaii Mars.  Go to their website for more info.

Those are pretty cool airplanes. how come only 4 were built? Sounds like they can do a lot of "damage" to the fire. I wonder what the opperating cost is on a plane like that...
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2007, 07:28:45 PM »
You're right Fabo.  I don't know what the civilian equivilant is called.  Maybe the L130?

L100, as stated above ;)

I heard Lockheed started offering the L100 again... anyone know if there have been any orders for the L100J?

Also, since all the current L100s were the original model, there was apparently a conversion to stretch them  (Lyndon Air Cargo's hercs are this type).  ATC uses a different model number for them.

Lyndon operates two of these hercs in AK, with others spread around the world.    Their number is like L-1090 or something weird like that.  I got this story after I asked why they weren't being referred to as "L-100s."


Additional information on fires....

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/31/fire.california/index.html

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LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A boy playing with matches started a Southern California wildfire that scorched more than 38,000 acres, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said Tuesday.

 The Buckweed Fire, which destroyed 21 homes on its rampage, began October 21 in the Agua Dulce community.

"Our arson explosive detectives, in conjunction with the Los Angeles County Fire Department investigators, immediately began their investigation, and during the course of the investigation, it led to a juvenile suspect," Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deputy Tony Moore told CNN's "American Morning" Wednesday.

"After talking with that juvenile, he admitted to playing with matches, and accidentally starting the fire in that area," he said.  Watch what's next for young suspect »

The boy, whose name and age were not given, is home with his parents, police said. The case will be presented to the Los Angeles County district attorney for possible charges.

According to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, the Buckweed Fire burned 38,526 acres.

Sixty-three structures, 21 of them homes, were destroyed, and three civilians and two firefighters were injured.


As of Tuesday, 18 of 23 wildfires in Southern California were completely under control, and the remainder were at least 70 percent contained, according to the Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.

The fires are blamed for 14 deaths and charred more than 508,000 acres, destroying about 1,600 homes.

Five people were arrested in arson probes last week, and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Saturday vowed to "hunt down" people responsible for setting wildfires.

Authorities said Saturday they were following 1,700 tips about a white Ford F-150 pickup seen near the origin of the sprawling Santiago Fire in Orange County.

Witnesses reported seeing the 1998-2004 model truck with chrome tubular running boards on Santiago Canyon Road on October 21 at about the time the Santiago Fire started.


Authorities said last week they had found evidence at the scene, although they declined to describe it.

"If I were one of the people who started the fires, I would not sleep soundly right now, because we're right behind you," Schwarzenegger said, urging the culprits to turn themselves in
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2007, 12:54:45 AM »
We got the story of the child-play with matches in the danish news too, where are the parents these days?? Curiousity is human but for crying out loud.

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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2007, 04:05:32 AM »
Something positive in this thread for a change:
G-man and I just talked about it at dinner:

There are a few houses within this whole devestation that got spared where a few people wrote things like
"Thank you fire crews" on their roofs. You can see them all over when you fly around.
Makes you feel good about your job.....
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2007, 12:40:51 PM »
That's a cool change in the job. Always nice to know that someone appreciates you. |:)\
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2007, 04:32:15 AM »
Here's a funny fact:

In the news I just saw a little thing on how firefighters are getting prepaed for the new winds coming in and
the new tactics they will test... and so on.

Here is how we prepared at my job:
We bought RC-cars to keep us busy!
HAHA

gotta have fun while you're waiting for the next "big one" ....  ;D
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2007, 09:08:54 PM »
Something positive in this thread for a change:
G-man and I just talked about it at dinner:

There are a few houses within this whole devastation that got spared where a few people wrote things like
"Thank you fire crews" on their roofs. You can see them all over when you fly around.
Makes you feel good about your job.....


Here is one from the 4 corners area on the Harris Fire:



And just around the corner in the Deerhorn valley.. This is what defensable space around your house looks like..and low and behold they all survived:



Life may not be the party we hoped for---but while we're here--we might as well dance..........

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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2007, 04:13:54 AM »
Wow! :o

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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2007, 04:06:24 AM »
And speaking of Wow, I just found this video, holy heck that's flying low! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e4b_1193018591

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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2007, 04:35:14 AM »
yeah, that must be the lowest I've ever seen a tanker drop . . .
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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2007, 04:38:24 AM »
What kind of plane is that again?

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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2007, 05:41:12 PM »
Canadair CL 415

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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2007, 09:43:11 PM »
This link has some photos and radio traffic of a tough day on the fires in SoCal.

Hope it still works, and has accessible content for everyone.



http://www.latimes.com/la-burnover-f,0,732907.flash?coll=la-home-center

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Re: October 07 Socal Fires
« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2007, 10:39:03 PM »
Works for me, looked hectic but the radio-calls were calm and clear (much better than several ATC calls I've heard :D ) |:)\

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