Inflight Entertainment => There I was... => Topic started by: TheSoccerMom on April 02, 2007, 08:09:51 PM
Title: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: TheSoccerMom on April 02, 2007, 08:09:51 PM
So, some buds and I have been laughing about all the less-than-glamorous moments we've endured in Aviation. Those fine, shining moments where things either just went wrong, no one should have gotten out of bed, or (my favorite) some ignorant moron walks up and simply opens his mouth.
I'm going to throw a few out here, to share. What are yours?!?!?!?
There was the time, in Reno, Nevada, when I was waiting for the last passenger to show up.... I had the door open on the plane... and was keeping an eye out. He showed up, and I was in the FBO, rounding up the last of the bunch, and then walked back down the hall to get one last drink of water from the fountain. By the time I got back to the glass doors leading to the ramp, my 8 passengers were outside, walking toward the plane. I thanked the guy behind the desk, nodded at the door so he would open it, and..... he refused to. In short, he didn't believe I was the pilot, and started lipping off when I told him just to open the #$%## door. By now, the pax are clumped like a herd of goats by the open door on the plane, staring back at me through the glass doors, wondering where the heck I went. That guy was just NOT going to open the doors. ::complaining:
While flying with a buddy in a Cessna 150, over the pretty lakes of northen Idaho, I had to pee so badly that I said "We have to just land somewhere!" I grabbed the chart, saw that there was a small, uncontrolled aiport just over the next ridge, and said "We gotta go, NOW." We set up for a normal pattern, with me saying "As soon as we stop, I'm hopping out!", only to realize there were dozens and dozens of airplanes, all along the runway, in the grass, on the ramp, EVERYWHERE. There were kids, people and dogs EVERYWHERE. We had stumbled into a friendly little fly-in! It was really, really hard to find a spot to park and then try to race off to the trees, without seeming rude to all the people coming up to visit and chat. And here I thought we'd find an empty little stretch of runway, without a soul around. A few people even CLAPPED as we pulled into a grassy spot to park -- it WAS an immaculate little 150, and I guess they thought we were there to show her off. Talk about timing!! :P
Last summer, upon return to work after my 2 days off, I saw my plane was gone. There had been an early fire call, and so the relief pilot took it. Since I was there, with no plane, I figured it'd be a good time to clean up our messy little shack. I opened the doors, and was busy hauling out bags of garbage when a helitack crew from out of state landed, and came in. The foreman asked where was the regular crew (we had half the building, and they were in the other half), and so I told him they were out on a fire. I showed him where they could set up their gear. The guy finally said, "So... are you the janitor here?" YUP.
Or, then there was the guy who came up to the FBO counter while I was paying for fuel last summer.... He said loudly, and knowingly, "SO! You've been out practicing going to the fires!" WHAT? I said "Well, we've been out to the fires, yes." And he yelled it again "Oh no, I know, you're out there PRACTICING!" (There were fires everywhere at the time, and lots of smoke in town and at the airport.) I never did have a CLUE what he was talking about, but ---- what can you expect from a guy who had on a flightsuit covered with about 30 patches, and had just come in in his Cessna 150?!?!?! (I finally decided he fell into that category of "local color".) ::loony::
And, of course, there are all the (hundreds of) briefings where the room goes silent and I get the EVIL EYE for "barging in" to where the PILOTS are...... right Mike?!?!?!?!!!! Those are just so.... SPECIAL!!! HA HA!! ::rofl::
And then... and then.... "there I was"..... ha ha! C'mon, let's hear some stories!!!!!!!
8)
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: undatc on April 03, 2007, 03:04:45 AM
Hmmm I have nothing that contends with your stories, but I will attempt.
So for Avit 102 (the private pilot class here at UND) you're required to observe some flights of other students. The idea being that you will catch mistakes they are making, see you're doing them too, and correct yourself. So I am on this flight sitting in the back seat of this Seminole and we take off climb up pretty quick and hit cruise speed of about 210kts (nice tail wind). After doing the check list, the student CFI turns around to me and somewhat cockily asks, "so this is a helluva lot better than the warrior eh? this baby is so fast you'll love it!"
Slightly miffed, i replied back, "not really, your just another dot on my screen and frankly your IFR dot moves to damn slow for sequencing, you screw everything up"
I swear his dropping jaw was going to put a hole in the floor board. He simply replied, "ATC?"
One more, it was late March last year and it had warmed up to a nice 28 degrees or so. By UND policy, since it was still below freezing we had to have hat, boots, gloves, and a heavy coat. Which I did. However considering the previous weeks highs sat around -10 this was a heat wave for us, so I was in a sweat shirt and shorts, and had all my "required gear" in a back pack with me. I went out, did my preflight, my instructor came out, signed off on me, and we hopped in, cranked it up and called up ground.
"Sioux 55 on Charlie with Echo, would like taxi information for a VFR southeast departure."
"Sioux 55 Grand Forks Ground, runway 17L taxi via Charlie Bravo, and Sioux 55 thanks for the cheery attitude and the high hopes of an early spring but aint it a lil cold?"
"uh not really ground and thanks we copy information"
we laughed about that the entire flight, however on landing the flight operations director met us at the door and chewed me out, which i responded with his book of reg's, and he stormed off. The next day they issued a new "addition to the flight op regs for UND"
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Baradium on April 03, 2007, 07:21:20 AM
I want to hear more about the FBO guy who didn't let you outside!
Chris: MTSU required long pants for all flights, summer or winter. ;)
Of course, that rule was the result of an accident.
I'm trying to think of a good story. But I can talk about how we took the 1900 mudding today, right? ::loony::
Breakup is here....
How about the way too many times I was walking from the back of the airplane where I stowed the tail stand and as I pass by the wing tip slip on the ice and fall flat?
My summer boots grip ice great... my winter boots don't. I'm about to take my expensive and new winter boots and get their new soles removed and get some decent ones put on.... ::knockedout::
I think the last time for the season was last week...
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: TheSoccerMom on April 04, 2007, 07:34:25 PM
Ouch!! I hate falling on the ice!! So it works well, living in a place like this with hardly any winter at all.... :D
I made up for it, though, around Christmastime... arriving in Vermont in the midst of a horrid ice storm at night.... I was inching across my sister's ice-coated, SLOPED driveway and she appeared on the porch to shout encouragement: "Man, be careful!! DON'T DROP THE BEER!!!!"
After I got my private license, I was happy to take one of my good friends from work up for a mountain tour. She'd flown so much in the helicopters at work that I never even considered she might fall prey to airsickness. The minute she turned to a pale avocado hue, I immediately turned for home -- but she was ILL. I realized, cussing "YOU DUMMY!" to myself, that I had NO barf bags... I had always been by myself! OH MAN, and she was some cool shades of green.
We touched down, and I was telling her "Hang in there, we're almost to the ramp!" when she looked at me and said "I can't make it."
I had to call ground control and ask permission to stop on the taxiway.... I'm sure they all got quite a good laugh out of watching the door on the C-150 open, her green little head hang all the way out, and the ensuing adventure. Not to mention all the comments about my SMOOTH piloting.. HA HA!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Frank N. O. on April 04, 2007, 07:43:36 PM
Ah great stories, if only I could have such fun. Actually funny you should mention that about not being let out, I'd wondered if I might experience that if I got to become a pilot and were delivering something to a larger airport in a small plane where I didn't need to wear a pilot uniform. But don't you have a FAA CPL license to show, and maybe someone at the pilot-info desk could ID you? And how did you get in in the first place btw?
Frank
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: TheSoccerMom on April 04, 2007, 08:09:09 PM
Hi Frank, ::wave::
I'm sure you will get to fly as you like -- no matter when, or where. I've met some student pilots in their 70s, and they were great!! (Not that it would take you until then....!!) You have such a love for flying, you will do it. ;)
As to your question, once you park at a busy airport, usually on the FBO (fixed-base operator)'s ramp, you can walk INTO the facilities (usually) with no problem. The security "kicks in" once you are on the public side, and need to get back out onto the ramp. MOST places have employees with enough brain cells to recognize pilots when they come IN, but it does happen that they think you are just some idiot who does NOT need to get into the secure area.
I can say this has happened to me WAY more than you would believe.. there are plenty of times when I STILL can't believe it, even though I know enough to expect it!! I know Mike, too, has stories about people not thinking he was the pilot, and not wanting to let him get near his own trusty helicopter!! People have a real "pilot stereotype" model in their head, and well, if you don't fit that, you don't get to go out to your own aircraft!! HA. It is all very stupid.
That jerk in Reno got a few of his measly brain cells (6 out of 8) rearranged that day.... I wasn't rude, just told him he had better let me out before I made those 8 people late for their next meeting, and if he'd LIKE, he could keep it up until THEY all came back inside in anger. He still didn't believe me, but there are plenty more mental giants just like him out there.
You'd think wearing a flightsuit MIGHT help, but even during fire season, when I am with my spotter (also in a flightsuit), HE'S the one who gets approached to see if HE needs fuel, parking, etc., etc. They all think it's hilarious, and we get some really good laughs out of it, especially when they say crazy stuff in response. Sometimes it's amazing what people will say in the FBO, not knowing we are with the airplane.... One old guy sagely nodded at my airplane and told his buddy: "Them Otters are a real handful!!" (WHAT?!?!) Oh, it gets funny for sure!!!!! ::rofl::
8)
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: TheSoccerMom on April 04, 2007, 11:51:34 PM
Ohh... there was the time I got out to my plane (before a passenger trip!), and discovered a pair of pink women's panties draped over the yoke...... hee hee..... ::rofl::
Boy with friends like these, you don't need enemies..... ::banghead::
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Frank N. O. on April 05, 2007, 12:59:05 AM
Ohh... there was the time I got out to my plane (before a passenger trip!), and discovered a pair of pink women's panties draped over the yoke...... hee hee..... ::rofl::
Boy with friends like these, you don't need enemies..... ::banghead::
Hmmm, where did they get those from? ::thinking:: ::rofl:: That's a gender-based joke that can seriously backfire for a man right there, one way or the other.
Frank
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: TheSoccerMom on April 05, 2007, 05:21:39 AM
Ha ha, well, I honestly don't know WHERE they got them -- but they were nice ones, cotton and a pretty pink. They had taken the extra, you might even say THOUGHTFUL step, of stamping them with the crew logo, too -- I mean, these babies were OFFICIAL.
I saw them just as I opened the front door and was standing on the wing of the Baron, so I whipped around and waved them over my head with an accusatory glare, and heard roars of laughter coming from all the way across the ramp.
Like I said... with friends like these...... ::rofl::
::rofl::
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: TheSoccerMom on April 05, 2007, 06:16:43 AM
Also, another real safety issue is making sure you have conscientious ramp people, so we do a back-up safety check to be sure we are making eye contact when we taxi into a new ramp.
You can always (always!) tell the SECOND the ramp person has made eye conatct with the Captain, when the Captain wears the required Safety glasses, you know, those ones with the big rubber nose and the bushy black eyebrows sticking out over the sexy black plastic-rimmed glasses.
It's foolproof.
;D
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: G-man on April 25, 2007, 04:29:53 PM
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Frank N. O. on April 25, 2007, 05:15:14 PM
::rofl:: ::rofl:: ::rofl:: aw man that was totally excellent!!
Frank
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Mike on April 26, 2007, 12:29:06 AM
Ok here is one. Jim and Mary know this one from Winnemucca.
You might have noticed in the "Adventures of Panaca Jane" thread that I don't always wear the Nomex flight suit. It gets a little too hot for my taste in the desert of Nevada so I opted to wear the camo pants the smoke jumper wear and a yellow fire shirt. The BLM doesn't care as long as you all "nomexed" up from head to toe. We landed in Winnemucca and I was as always immediately trying to work on Chicken Wings as long as I am not in the air which I need internet for. Somebody told me where the "pilots lounge" was which was supposed to have internet. I took my nomex shirt off and threw it in the aircraft and headed for the shack to log in. After introducing myself to all the pilots I sat down and fired up my laptop. A few minutes later a friendly guy from the BLM, later identified as the helibase manager, walked in an tapped me on the shoulder to tell me "You know this is the pilots lounge, right?" I said "Ok, thanks!" already deeply involved in emails and such.
He came back a half hour later and once again walked up to me telling me "See, what we do here is we have the pilots get their own room so they can relax and not get bothered by the crews running in and out. It's a safety thing." I replied once again "Oh, ok! That's a great idea. Thanks." wondering why he keeps telling me this but not really paying too much attention. The other guys already started to giggle but I was concentrating on making the first book happening.
The manager was almost at the door when he turned around now slightly irritated about me ignoring him but still friendly and said: "You know, I really need you to sit with your crew. You can't be in here." Now I am totally confused and I ask him "I thought you said this was the pilots lounge" and he responded "Exactly!" as in "now you're getting it".
....well the other guys already busted out laughing and I finally understood where we went wrong. I briefed him on me being the pilot of Panaca Jane, the clown colored helicopter, and that I just look young. Everybody had a ball but he didn't speak to me for 3 weeks because he thought I did it on purpose....
;D
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: TheSoccerMom on April 26, 2007, 12:37:18 AM
OH YEAH, do we ever know that routine Mike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::rofl::
Thanks for sharing. Of course, in that very same little tiny room, I got the "Oh, so are you the SEAT clerk?" question, and then when I said I was with the jumpers, the guy STILL didn't think I was the pilot... and when he figured out that was the case, he never spoke to me again, either!!!!! :D
And Ely was where they thought I was the janitor.....
And the guy at the main base gate this morning in Boise, had to be told 4 separate times that I needed to go to the JUMPER building.... (don't have the official badge yet for this year)..... and just when I thought I was getting through to him, he said in confusion "So, you're a jumper?" ARRGGH. When I told him I was the pilot, he, too, suddenly lost the ability to speak. ::loony::
On the bright side, I am greatly reassured and relieved to think that maybe I could actually GET a job as a clerk or a janitor... so that's the GOOD news here!!!! ;)
Hey, fire season is now here for me... tomorrow starts the contract!!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: G-man on April 26, 2007, 12:55:59 AM
I know how all that "misunderstanding" goes. I flew in Hawaii for 7 years, and chose not to wear shoes---shorts, aloha shirt and barefoot--the only way to fly. You would not believe the amount of people who would mistake me for the loader. Of course its rude to not play on it, especially on the post lunch flight---I would talk to my loader and get the van keys---drive the pax out, brief them, load them---then say---"well I guess the pilot is taking a long lunch---I've seen him do this---it'll be ok trust me". Then I'd jump in fire it up and off we go---of course you have to have them all "lean to the left on my count", and bank it on the count of 3...................Ah the fun times........ ::sick::
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: TheSoccerMom on April 26, 2007, 01:01:46 AM
TOO GOOD!!!!!!! ::bow::
Yeah, sometimes I am just too TIRED of explaining this baloney, so if someone wants to think I am the clerk or janitor, well hey GREAT. I mean, I don't care if a person like that doesn't GET IT.... I don't have enough time or magic to cure all THAT. So, sometimes it's just worth not saying a peep, the jumpers are all so funny, they know exactly when it's not worth the effort.... and when we suddenly get a call to go, well, it's worth it to see the shocked looks and the sputtering and backpedaling. I mean -- I'm going to have a great day, no matter what other people have planned for me, right?!?! ;) Not my problem!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: airtac on April 26, 2007, 03:39:01 AM
OH you think janitor is bad --try to feel what it's like when they think you're visiting your son/daughter !!!!!!!!!!!!! (ASSHOLES!!!)
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: TheSoccerMom on May 05, 2007, 11:08:28 PM
I almost forgot.. Another case of mistaken identity....
There was the time the local fire manager guy came out to the airport where we were all "standing by", working in "his" area. Of course, we get to know a lot of manager-types, traveling from place to place. We always try to get to know them, since we are, in a way, working directly for them, even though we are considered a national resource that is supposed to move around in accordance with the fire activity, not tied to just one place.
That said, we were all roasting in the heat, and this place had a small, ancient, crumbling TINY trailer where we could escape the baking sun. It was filthy and no doubt harbored a hundred diseases. There was a lame fan at each end, and no A/C, but if you tried hard, you could imagine it was a cool breeze, not a suffocating one that reeked of 12 people crammed in there like sweating sardines. ::sweat::
I had on my work boots, since we have to wear leather boots to fly in, and a T-shirt and jeans. The jumpers all have to wear Nomex fire clothes, and most were shirtless in the heat, but had on the Nomex pants. We were all sitting side by side, dripping sweat and wishing we could get a fire so we could get the hell out of there, when the fire manager stepped in. He was a nice guy, an experienced guy with a long fire background, and he started visiting with all the jumpers. When he got down the line of stinky bodies to me, I extended my hand and said "Hello" and it all, suddenly and abruptly, SCREECHED to a HALT.
He gave me the dirtiest look.. just glared at me... I didn't get this at all... and then soon he spun on his heel and walked out of the rickety old trailer. I was dumbfounded.. thinking I must have offended him somehow.. but.. HOW? I hadn't even had a chance to say anything! ::thinking::
Soon after that, we got a fire call and all flew out the door... and raced off to the fire... and when I saw that man next, he walked up to me directly, HIS hand extended, shook mine, and apologized profusely. He was SO embarrassed, but said he thought I was one of the jumpers, and he was SO APPALLED that I would be ON DUTY in JEANS that he was just too upset to even chew me out. After we flew off that day, one of the guys left behind laughed his butt off, and said "Hell, no, she's our pilot!" The poor guy was mortified.
:D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: undatc on May 07, 2007, 05:00:52 AM
Just as often as you're mistaken for not being a pilot I get mistaken for being a ramp agent. When I tell people that I'm in college to be an Air Traffic Controller, most people respond with,
"wow I didn't know you had to have a degree to use those colored baton's."
::banghead::
"Yes sir, I just spent 100k on an education so I can sit out in the rain and back an airplane up."
And people wonder why controllers drink so much ::drinking::
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: airtac on May 07, 2007, 05:24:06 AM
YIKES--100 grand and they're hiring trainees off the street--no wonder there's some hard feelings at the academy, mentioned in the aforementioned AVweb article ::eek:: Well when you get to become a controller someday, you'll be entitled to start drinking ::drinking::
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Skygal on May 07, 2007, 08:07:01 PM
YIKES--100 grand and they're hiring trainees off the street--no wonder there's some hard feelings at the academy, mentioned in the aforementioned AVweb article ::eek:: Well when you get to become a controller someday, you'll be entitled to start drinking ::drinking::
Well, my degree is slightly more than the average, I took private loans to pay for my car/insurance/living expenses while here, I have no scholarships nor federal aid. And the guys they get off the street the wash out rate is almost 75% so going this way is a lot better bet then trying to get hired off the street. Plus who really wants to work in Oakland?
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: airtac on May 08, 2007, 12:41:11 AM
YIKES--100 grand and they're hiring trainees off the street--no wonder there's some hard feelings at the academy, mentioned in the aforementioned AVweb article ::eek:: Well when you get to become a controller someday, you'll be entitled to start drinking ::drinking::
Well, my degree is slightly more than the average, I took private loans to pay for my car/insurance/living expenses while here, I have no scholarships nor federal aid. And the guys they get off the street the wash out rate is almost 75% so going this way is a lot better bet then trying to get hired off the street. Plus who really wants to work in Oakland?
75% ::eek:: well, that still leaves 25% of the uneducated who make it ::cowboy:: I used to work out of OAK---would not have liked to live there so I commuted 2 hours 4 days a week---know an FAA inspector who worked there and lived in UKI which is even farther---sometimes ya just gotta make a living. I've never lived in any city, Geyserville with it's population of 1,400 is about my limit.
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: TheSoccerMom on May 08, 2007, 03:05:02 AM
Now, THAT is funny. Hey, I have been working on trying to duct-tape my kitchen wall clock to my wrist, it is kinda clumsy and gets in the way of the yoke, but I am working the bugs out... when I get it all "good to go", I'll send you the design plans!!!!!!!!!
Then we can look like REAL PILOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
::bow::
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: undatc on May 08, 2007, 03:11:03 AM
75% ::eek:: well, that still leaves 25% of the uneducated who make it ::cowboy:: I used to work out of OAK---would not have liked to live there so I commuted 2 hours 4 days a week---know an FAA inspector who worked there and lived in UKI which is even farther---sometimes ya just gotta make a living. I've never lived in any city, Geyserville with it's population of 1,400 is about my limit.
Yea, our success rate is a lot higher, thou about 1 in 10 are washing out due to non radar procedures right now. So they just added that course to our degree requirement, Yay ::banghead::
The problem with OAK for controllers is, one of the most complex/congested areas of the nation, and very low pay to start. So you cant live anywhere near where you're working, in addition trying to learn the ropes, makes it really hard. I just wanna go back to WA/OR/ID and ill be happy.
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: TheSoccerMom on May 08, 2007, 03:15:44 AM
I hope it works out that you can go where you desire!
I also hope you don't get boneheads like ME, who managed (this very morning!) to call ground control on the in-house fire ramp frquency, requesting to taxi.... after a short pause, the fire guys came back with "Hey! You're on Ramp Freq!" (add in snickering sounds, in background).... but then he added, "But Hey, just go ahead and taxi wherever you want!" ::rofl::
More caffeine, more caffeine............. ::silly::
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: FlyboyGil on May 08, 2007, 03:21:18 AM
I hope it works out that you can go where you desire!
I also hope you don't get boneheads like ME, who managed (this very morning!) to call ground control on the in-house fire ramp frquency, requesting to taxi.... after a short pause, the fire guys came back with "Hey! You're on Ramp Freq!" (add in snickering sounds, in background).... but then he added, "But Hey, just go ahead and taxi wherever you want!" ::rofl::
More caffeine, more caffeine............. ::silly::
Soccermom, is that you? :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: undatc on May 08, 2007, 06:11:51 AM
I hope it works out that you can go where you desire!
I also hope you don't get boneheads like ME, who managed (this very morning!) to call ground control on the in-house fire ramp frquency, requesting to taxi.... after a short pause, the fire guys came back with "Hey! You're on Ramp Freq!" (add in snickering sounds, in background).... but then he added, "But Hey, just go ahead and taxi wherever you want!" ::rofl::
More caffeine, more caffeine............. ::silly::
At least you didn't start taxing though, that would have been bad.
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Frank N. O. on May 08, 2007, 10:09:03 AM
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: airtac on May 08, 2007, 01:53:09 PM
"AH, Boise ground (on 123.95) Airtac 12 at NIFFC ramp, taxi with Alpha-----(now, why are those guys waving at me---IDIOTS!!!--) ---been there, done that and of course, I had to do right there, at the center of the universe (NIFFC ::bow::) and with the volume turned down on the #3 com so that I repeated it several times! ::banghead:: I was surprised they didn't ask to check my card!
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: TheSoccerMom on May 08, 2007, 05:43:04 PM
CARD?!? What's a Card?!? :D :D
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: G-man on May 08, 2007, 06:10:37 PM
Yeah, next time they ask, I'll just do my best Cheech Marin accented; "CARD?-----I don' need no steenking card!" ::)
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: cj5_pilot on May 11, 2007, 04:58:30 PM
My most bone headed aviation moment was not in a plane. It was behind a keyboard. I belong to an online writers group and one guy was writing a multi part aviation story. Anyhow, I dropped him some comments and said if he had any aviation questions he could ask me because I was a private pilot. He wrote back to say "Thanks but I'm retired from the Air Force, and I think my experience rat-f*$#!*g Soviet built radars over North Vietnam in the back seat of an F-4 will be plenty for this story". :o :-[
Turns out the guy retired as a Lt. General. Nice guy we still correspond occasionally even though he's had to stop writing due to his new job.
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: TheSoccerMom on May 11, 2007, 07:34:47 PM
That's great that you keep in touch with him -- good one!
It's amazing how, no matter how old we manage to get (speaking for myself here), there is always someone who has a wealth of different experience... your story reminds me of when I taught my first ground school classes, in a formal setting.. at a technical college, part-time.... I was a nervous kid and wanted SO BADLY to do everything RIGHT...
I always started out my new courses with everyone taking a moment to say why they were there, what kind of flying they liked, you know... it worked wonders to get people visiting, but it also helped me to try to figure out how to teach things.
My first class was always "Basic Aerodynamics", and so imagine my chagrin when the polite gentleman sitting right in the front row, dead center, up by me, said he was a retired aerodynamicist from Boeing, and had been there 34 years...... I would have given anything to been able to drop through a hole in the floor, and come up in Samoa or somewhere..... ::)
But, he was a gracious person and we all survived just fine.... but, it was a big reminder for me to "check out every teeny thing before you say it".
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Fabo on May 12, 2007, 03:41:35 PM
My most bone headed aviation moment was not in a plane. It was behind a keyboard. I belong to an online writers group and one guy was writing a multi part aviation story. Anyhow, I dropped him some comments and said if he had any aviation questions he could ask me because I was a private pilot. He wrote back to say "Thanks but I'm retired from the Air Force, and I think my experience rat-f*$#!*g Soviet built radars over North Vietnam in the back seat of an F-4 will be plenty for this story". :o :-[
Turns out the guy retired as a Lt. General. Nice guy we still correspond occasionally even though he's had to stop writing due to his new job.
sounds like a nice reading, can you post us a link please?
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: happylanding on June 25, 2007, 05:52:55 PM
How about the way too many times I was walking from the back of the airplane where I stowed the tail stand and as I pass by the wing tip slip on the ice and fall flat?
It happened to me too....but.....but.....I was standing on the thingie on the fuselage in order to check the fuel into the cessna 152. a young - very young spectator - had just said to his parent, on the other side of the fence, "dad look! she is a pilot!". I fell my balance and roughly landed (not on my feet!!), and I was so much ashamed, that I added to it, just by acting as if everybody usually came down THAT way from the checks...
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Another time, during a flight, I gave to the plane I was flying another name, without even realizing (I always risk to call the HBPPQ I fly by the name of its "fore-flyer": HBPPV :-[). milan info wasn' happy at all! :-)
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: FlyboyGil on June 25, 2007, 05:56:45 PM
Well Yesterday at the airshow in St. Thomas, my damn lawnchair decided to break on me (LOSE SOME WEIGHT GIL!!). The back just went, and I tried to get up, but all I could scream was GOD@#MMIT, and down I went. Embarrasment city!!
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Skid Kid on June 25, 2007, 09:16:44 PM
2 years ago yours truly was installing a starter on a Cobra when the torque wrench slipped off the nut. Well, I popped my self in the nose with the wrench and as a result fell 4 feet to the ground. ::knockedout:: Not a good day since everyone in the shop heard about it within 5 minutes. They still dont shut up about it. ::loony::
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: RagDragger on June 27, 2007, 03:31:46 AM
Lately I keep calling the wrong damned airport coming home. Right frequency, just the wrong name. Friend of mine once tried to call tower on the AWOS frequency. I'm sure I have others, I'll just have to update later when I'm not quite so tired.
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Mike on June 27, 2007, 06:18:28 PM
HA HA!
Flying back into Vegas last night with Southwest, the flight attendant must have had a long day as well. She came over the PA saying: "Ladies and Gentlemen, we would like to welcome you to . . . . .uhm . . . . .(then nothing for a minute until a passenger reminded her) ....that's right, Las Vegas"
...made me laugh. ;D
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Baradium on July 02, 2007, 08:43:09 AM
How about the way too many times I was walking from the back of the airplane where I stowed the tail stand and as I pass by the wing tip slip on the ice and fall flat?
It happened to me too....but.....but.....I was standing on the thingie on the fuselage in order to check the fuel into the cessna 152. a young - very young spectator - had just said to his parent, on the other side of the fence, "dad look! she is a pilot!". I fell my balance and roughly landed (not on my feet!!), and I was so much ashamed, that I added to it, just by acting as if everybody usually came down THAT way from the checks...
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Another time, during a flight, I gave to the plane I was flying another name, without even realizing (I always risk to call the HBPPQ I fly by the name of its "fore-flyer": HBPPV :-[). milan info wasn' happy at all! :-)
One of the captains thought it was hilarious when I'd fall down. Me not so much. I'd always just hope that the passengers didn't happen to be looking out of the window at the time... kind of hard to hide though when one side of my black pants is white from the snow... I think acting like it was normal was probobly the best way to do it anyway... not much else to do, right?
As far as the other name part... that's pretty hard to catch especially with them so close anyway! The flight school I went to got new aircraft and they all end with MT.... there are 4 aircraft that end in 7MT (147MT, 167MT, 127MT, and I believe 177MT). I didn't get much time in the newer aircraft, but rode along with a friend once... we were in 563MT and were looking for flight following. They were also talking to another aircraft, believe it was 565MT. Every time we tried to call them center would call up 565MT and ask what they wanted. They'd respond that they were fine and we'd repeat. Eventually 565 responded that they suspected a similiar callsign was trying to call on... was pretty frustrating. Most of the aircraft were sequential as well.
You'd also get new pilots in the pattern who just wanted to use the last 3 of the callsign no matter what... which was fine until you got 3 aircraft ending 7MT in the pattern doing touch and goes... talk about a headache. I bet it's still like that too.
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on July 08, 2007, 06:05:04 AM
During my Commuter days in New Mexico, we were descending into ABQ with my FO flying and I was working the radios, etc. We came to the part of the checklist where I needed to give the passengers the before landing briefing. I hit the PA button (I thought) and proceeded to give a lengthly, professional briefing where I identified myself, advised them regarding the necessity for seatbelts to be fastened and seatbacks in the upright position, Albuquerque weather, and the fact that we were yet again on time. At the end I thanked them for flying with us and keyed my microphone off.
To my dismay, a voice from my #2 radio (which was tuned to 121.5, or Guard Frequency as per regs and company policy) replied, "That was a great Passenger Briefing, but you might want to give it to the passengers instead of all of us on Guard."!!! ::eek:: ::eek:: ::eek:: ::eek:: I had mistakenly hit the #2 radio button instead of the PA button before I gave my speech! If there would have been a hole in that sky, I would have crawled into it! Since I had identified myself and my airline, I couldn't hide or deny it so I came back on Guard and said "Oh Man! I'm NEVER gonna live this down!" ::banghead:: ::banghead:: ::banghead:: ::banghead:: ::banghead::
I'm sure they still talk about it in ABQ to this day...
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: RagDragger on July 13, 2007, 12:41:53 AM
The other day I thought my mechanic hadn't finished the oil change on my airplane. Got out to it in the morning and the dipstick was still hanging off the prop, which around here generally means "Oil needs to be added". So I dumped in the standard 7 quarts, started her up and taxied to the fuel pump. Then I noticed how much oil had been blown all over the landing gear leg out of the breather tube. The trail from my parking spot to the fuel pump led to my new nickname......"Slick".
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: airtac on July 13, 2007, 05:22:58 AM
BWAAAAHAHAAHAAHA-----Slick!, I love it!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: happylanding on July 13, 2007, 05:53:38 AM
Two days ago I went flying. I did not flight too well, on the contrary I was quite absent minded, unable to concentrate. when I landed I went to the loo. I had my license in my hands and I put them on the water cistern while...performing other tasks. I just had time to save them from being flushed away, since I realized they had fallen into the toilet. I hope it wasn't a Freudian message of my mind! :-) Bwaaaa ::rofl::
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Fabo on July 13, 2007, 11:44:43 AM
Two days ago I went flying. I did not flight too well, on the contrary I was quite absent minded, unable to concentrate. when I landed I went to the loo. I had my license in my hands and I put them on the water cistern while...performing other tasks. I just had time to save them from being flushed away, since I realized they had fallen into the toilet. I hope it wasn't a Freudian message of my mind! :-) Bwaaaa ::rofl::
Shit happens :)
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: happylanding on July 19, 2007, 09:29:46 PM
As far as the other name part... that's pretty hard to catch especially with them so close anyway! The flight school I went to got new aircraft and they all end with MT.... there are 4 aircraft that end in 7MT (147MT, 167MT, 127MT, and I believe 177MT). I didn't get much time in the newer aircraft, but rode along with a friend once... we were in 563MT and were looking for flight following. They were also talking to another aircraft, believe it was 565MT. Every time we tried to call them center would call up 565MT and ask what they wanted. They'd respond that they were fine and we'd repeat. Eventually 565 responded that they suspected a similiar callsign was trying to call on... was pretty frustrating. Most of the aircraft were sequential as well.
You'd also get new pilots in the pattern who just wanted to use the last 3 of the callsign no matter what... which was fine until you got 3 aircraft ending 7MT in the pattern doing touch and goes... talk about a headache. I bet it's still like that too.
Bah. LeTourneau has at the moment 7 aircraft, all Skyhawks, that end in Llama Unicorn.... I mean Lima Uniform. They're conveniently labeled 30LU through 36LU. Lots of confusion. We're getting two Diamond twins in August, which will bring our LU count up to nine. I feel sorry for ATC at KGGG. Actual radio transmission I made: "Taxi runway 31, departure frequency 133.1, squawk 0331, 31 Lima Uniform"
As far as silliness goes, one of my more embarrassing stories is starting up the engine for a solo cross-country during private training and realizing that my headset was in the baggage compartment. Of course an instructor, student, and mechanic were standing nearby wondering if I was having mechanical trouble when I shut down...
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: happylanding on July 20, 2007, 06:12:03 AM
As far as silliness goes, one of my more embarrassing stories is starting up the engine for a solo cross-country during private training and realizing that my headset was in the baggage compartment. Of course an instructor, student, and mechanic were standing nearby wondering if I was having mechanical trouble when I shut down...
that's too funny to be ashamed of! :-) And welcome to the coop (well, you will just hear that if you have your headset on!!) |:)\ |:)\ |:)\ |:)\
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: FlyboyGil on July 21, 2007, 01:10:23 AM
All righty here's my story. It's a long one, so I hope you feel like doing some reading.
It was during flight training back in college. Back then I wouldn't eat before flying, but my morning flight was pushed back to the afternoon so I was hungry. I went to the cafeteria and ordered chicken fingers and fries. A big meal. So when I went flying in the noon, of course it was spiral dives and spins. I pulled off both with diligence, and that was what did it. Lunch decided that it was going to exit the same way it came in. However I was prepared as I had a trusty plastic bag with me, just in case such an emergency arose. Like the super hero's Superman or Batman I needed a hero at that moment, and the time for the bag to be a hero was nigh!! ::sick:: ::sick:: ::sick:: I opened it up and it gratefully accepted my lunch contribution. Well I thought that would be the end of it. I succesfully pulled of the spins and spirals, so the instructor headed the plane for home. Here's where the lesson of the story comes in. When selecting a plastic bag to accept contributions of any kind, for the love of God make sure it doesn't have any holes in it!!
I had to quickly readjust the bag so it would stop leaking, but the damage was done. My pants, and some of the airplane seat had some of my lunch contributions. To make matters worse my instructor asked if I was going to have turkey for the upcoming Thanksgiving weekend. All I could say was "Don't talk about food!" The rest of the flight went smoothly. We landed and taxied up to the apron, where a cute 19 year old blonde girl was on dispatch. After the plane was parked and shut down, I quickly tossed my lunch into the grass, but had some of it on my pants. My instructor got out of the plane, and told me to help Blonide push the plane back. SON OF A BITCH!!!! I was able to help but keeping lunch on my leg hidden was a chore. Then Blondie and myself walked back to the hangar, with her yapping away about something. I don't know what it was, I didn't care. I was worried about getting to the hangar and avoiding the crowd that was there in the office. We got there, and I quickly grabbed my backpack and made a break for the bathroom.
After finding comfort with the porcelain bowl, I quickly went to the sink and washed lunch off my pants. Course now I looked like I wet myself. Can't win for losing. I quickly left without any notice, and thought that a walk back to the residence in the cool October air would help. A fellow student ran up, and walked with me for a bit, and tried to insist that I take the bus with him. No thankyou. But before we reached the bus stop, the 19 year old Blondie pulled up in her car, and insisted on giving us both a ride. I lived in Rez, she lived in Rez, but our fellow student did not so it was decided to drop him off home first. Well I'm sorry, but 19 year old woman drivers...! Sheesh!! She made the Dukes of Hazzard look like Driving Miss Daisy!! ::eek:: ::eek:: ::eek:: I didn't think it possible to make perfect 90 degree corners at 60 km an hour, but hey!! One learns something new everyday. Well we dropped off our non rez student and continued at mach 1.5 back to the rez.
After bouncing the car back into the parking lot, and stopping within inches of peeling the tires off of the rims, I thanked her for the ride from hell and proceeded to my room on the third floor. Fate allowed me a grace by not having any people in the hallways to my room. I entered, once again found comfort in the porcelain bowl. I quickly washed, and crawled under the covers.
A few hours sleep, and I was right as rain. I proceeded to the Cafteria, and ordered a small meal. Uhoh. There was a story going around that someone had gotten sick on the plane, and made a deposit in it. When I asked which plane, they said J-D-N. Phew I was in Y-A-S. I was saved, although I wondered who the other poor soul was.
So that's my heroic story. About Barf, and courage!! The end ::loony:: ::loony:: ::loony:: ::loony::
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on July 21, 2007, 01:10:57 PM
Wow, Gil, that story had everything. Action, romance, comedy. I smell a screenplay.
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on July 23, 2007, 12:36:01 PM
Wow, Gil, that story had everything. Action, romance, comedy. I smell a screenplay.
Methinks you would have smelled something else... ::loony::
??? YOu mean Barf? Yeah 3 times that day!
Uh, Yeah! Hehe. >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Fabo on July 30, 2007, 01:09:56 PM
Yeah one of my friends had similar problem in jet trainer... except he wasnt able to reach for the sickbag... and he was not saved from it... just as he was sneaking behind airplanes to clean it unnoticed, someone called him to clean it over the loudspeaker system... His case even got into daily preflight as question for instructors... ;D
It isnt needed to say he had gotten a new nickname... |:)\
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: BrianGMFS on July 31, 2007, 01:20:05 AM
One of the pilots at work has some pretty interesting stories. Dave was a Plane Captain (Crew Chief) on F-4 Phantoms in the Navy.... In a very special squadron... The Blue Angels! Back in the Phantom days the Plane Captain rode the back seat during the shows. Dave said his first three rides resulted in his lunch coming out. And since he was the plane captain... he had to clean it as well. He also told me that the diamond formation wasn't tight enough until the Skippers wing tip was tapping his canopy ::unbelieveable::
Brian
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: RagDragger on August 10, 2007, 05:33:30 PM
The other day I was flying a Geico banner over the Phillies stadium before a game. Now, understand, this is a 50x100 foot banner. The airplane will do it, but it makes life difficult when things are bumpy. My boss, along with several other high muckety-mucks of the company, a Geico rep, and the PR specialist (or whatever you call him) for the stadium happened to be watching, since they had recently received complaints about the noise from local residents. The airplane has since been modified with a muffler (it was straightpiped before) so that cut down on the noise some. Turbulent day, had to talk to PHL tower the whole time, fighting vicious downdrafts, just not overall an easy run. Kept getting texts from the boss requesting different altitudes, don't fly over this and that, go higher, etc. Didn't matter much since I was all over the place anyway. The worst, however, was when they asked if I could circle higher. To the tune of 3000 feet. In class Bravo, less than 2 miles north of the final approach path to runway 27 and 26. Boy, we're having fun now! Tower told me to call approach, who told me to climb to the north so I stayed out of the way of the approaching airline traffic. I climbed northward, full power, nose way up, trying to ride out the bumps and keep the rubber side down. Did I mention the turbulence? 5000 sq ft of banner behind a Piper Cub is like towing Rosie O'donnell on an inner tube with a bass boat in an Atlantic storm. I was sweating like a cucumber in a women's prison trying to keep everything together. I had no idea flying could be such a workout! At 2700 feet, the clouds were getting closer and my climb rate stopped. Not slowed, I mean stopped. Full power, nose up, and holding level. The old girl just refused to go any higher. Probably a combination of temperature (95+) and the slight power loss from the muffler. Told approach never mind since she was trying to figure out how to vector all the IFR traffic around me anyway. Went back down to 1200 and continued circling, trying to text my boss to let him know it was a no-go and not lose the phone. (A coworker did that not too long ago actually.) Flew back to the little airport I picked out of, dropped the banner, landed my little taildragger in probably 15-20 kts of crosswind, and gave sincere thought to kissing the ground.
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: BrianGMFS on August 11, 2007, 01:19:21 AM
Ouch.... Rough day, if ya' got your multi... I think we might be hiring some more King Air FO's..... that is if you can stand Vermont winters ::rofl::
Brian
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: RagDragger on August 11, 2007, 02:45:10 AM
Hell, this is too much fun to give up after just one season. I do have my multi, but I'd wager I'd end up taking a paycut. Don't have my 135 mins either. As to Vermont winters, I'm from South Dakota.
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: BrianGMFS on August 12, 2007, 02:27:17 AM
Hell, this is too much fun to give up after just one season. I do have my multi, but I'd wager I'd end up taking a paycut. Don't have my 135 mins either. As to Vermont winters, I'm from South Dakota.
If you're from SD.. the winters will be warmer ::rofl:: ::rofl::
I think our new hire King Air FO's are making in the $27,000 range. As far as the 135 mins, I don't think it matters initially since all our captains are ATP's and we're flying what is technically a single pilot airplane (King Air C-90). One of my fellow line rats got on as an FO a couple of months back with under 400 total and a pretty fresh commercial/multi from ATP. but he got on with the low hours because the company likes to hire from within if they can. 500 total is more like the numbers they want to see.
as an example of the hire from within policy, one of our FO's is another former line guy who is currently 21 years old, has under a 1,000 total and is an FO on the King Air and Citation Excel and is going to Citation Encore school next month (flying the Excel is kinda hard to juggle with college at the same time, the Encore doesn't go away for a week at a time)
Our company is really growing, we've got 4 C-90's, the Encore, we just bought a second Excel, and we will be getting a Challenger 604 in October (sold our old 601 back in May) and we've ordered a brand new Global 5000 for delivery in 2010. the plan is to at least double out hangar space in the next 2 years as well.
Heck, I gotta do an internal interview Monday for a possible promotion to be the Weekend Line Service Supervisor.... Cross your fingers ::sweat::
Brian
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: cj5_pilot on August 18, 2007, 03:20:59 AM
Now that I think harder on it....the most embarrasing moment I've had in the air was sheer stupidity on my part. It was mid summer 2000 and I was coming back from Talkeetna (to Kenai) on my long cross country. I was over Anchorage's C-Space (You want some messed up airspace? Check out Anchorage....only town I know that's got it's own chapter in the FAR's!) when I was asked for my altitude. I looked at the altimeter and replied 5500'. They asked me to double check and then squawk...I did and replied 5500'....They told me my transponder was showing a different altitude...I promised to have it checked when I landed......5 minutes later I looked and realized I'd read the altimeter wrong and I was at 4500'.......I was pretty well past Anchorage at that point and decided to just boogie on to Kenai......We won't go in to the high crosswind landing and having the tower tell me to expedite when I got there....
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: Rooster Cruiser on August 18, 2007, 06:03:52 AM
Hell, this is too much fun to give up after just one season. I do have my multi, but I'd wager I'd end up taking a paycut. Don't have my 135 mins either. As to Vermont winters, I'm from South Dakota.
If you're from SD.. the winters will be warmer ::rofl:: ::rofl::
I think our new hire King Air FO's are making in the $27,000 range. As far as the 135 mins, I don't think it matters initially since all our captains are ATP's and we're flying what is technically a single pilot airplane (King Air C-90). One of my fellow line rats got on as an FO a couple of months back with under 400 total and a pretty fresh commercial/multi from ATP. but he got on with the low hours because the company likes to hire from within if they can. 500 total is more like the numbers they want to see.
as an example of the hire from within policy, one of our FO's is another former line guy who is currently 21 years old, has under a 1,000 total and is an FO on the King Air and Citation Excel and is going to Citation Encore school next month (flying the Excel is kinda hard to juggle with college at the same time, the Encore doesn't go away for a week at a time)
Our company is really growing, we've got 4 C-90's, the Encore, we just bought a second Excel, and we will be getting a Challenger 604 in October (sold our old 601 back in May) and we've ordered a brand new Global 5000 for delivery in 2010. the plan is to at least double out hangar space in the next 2 years as well.
Heck, I gotta do an internal interview Monday for a possible promotion to be the Weekend Line Service Supervisor.... Cross your fingers ::sweat::
Brian
Dang, maybe I should be sending your outfit a resume... What might they have for a former 135 Chief Pilot/PC12 Driver/Piston Charter Pilot and Fr8Dawg/Line Boy and Office Manager/Chicken Haulin' Truck Driver? Oh, did I mention I lived in South Dakota for 4 and 1/2 years? Worked in North Dakota during much of that time too. ::banghead:: ::banghead:: ::banghead::
Title: Re: Ignominious (and just funny) Moments in Aviation.......
Post by: BrianGMFS on August 19, 2007, 01:26:28 AM
Got any Citation time?????? If you do you might be able to walk into a Captains slot if you have your ATP ;D Actually I think they just hired another pilot in the last week or so, and we also had one leave the company to go fly a G-V outta Dulles. Greg, our Chief Pilot is always taking resumes. never know whan something might pop up. Drop me a PM and I'll give you the address to send it to.
