Roost Air Lounge => General Discussion => Topic started by: Frank N. O. on March 04, 2006, 02:22:51 AM
Title: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on March 04, 2006, 02:22:51 AM
I thought I'd allow myself to post a thread for videos even though some have already been posted in the picture-thread (that reminds me, who were the military helicopter pilots with that Super Puma(?) ? )
I was looking around and found an insane skydiver! Flyingblind have you or your friends ever done something like this? :D Warning, pop-ups when you open the window unless you have a blocker. http://www.jokaroo.com/extremevideos/insane_skydiver.html I was really worried he's get sliced and diced by the prop.
And another one with the theme of flying low! Is it just me or do they sound dutch or something like that? That last one was insane!! As if the first two wasn't. http://www.jokaroo.com/extremevideos/low_altitude_flying.html
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: FlyingBlind on March 04, 2006, 03:26:39 PM
That is called tracking! :D
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: chuckar101 on March 06, 2006, 02:17:36 AM
That was on the show "Stunt Junkies" or something like that. That was the guys second try. The first time he couldn't grab onto the strut like he wanted to and almost went past the airplane.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mike on March 06, 2006, 03:28:40 AM
Woah man! Skydivers sure are a different breed of people....
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 06, 2006, 06:11:41 AM
I noticed that site also has the video of the "Great French Lawnmower." Has everyone seen that?
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on March 08, 2006, 03:03:04 AM
It's been done so much there's actually a name for it? Wow! Thanks for the info, I was sure you'd know something about it, and I agree with Mike, you guys/gals really are a different breed, my respect!
I tried looking thrue the site but I couldn't find the lawnmower clip, can you get a direct link perhaps? The thread's here for the same :)
And speaking of: Have you seen this video? Does anyone know that there's been a music-video recorded entirely during actual skydiving and not just skydiving but the skydiving bandmemberes were also dressed up, holding props and singing during it thanks to excellent skydiver camerawork!
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 08, 2006, 07:05:16 AM
This was one of the first Airbuses (Airbusi?) to be bought by Air France. I forget if it was the A319 or 320. If I remember right, there were 7 people on the plane.
Can you spell Boeing?
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on March 08, 2006, 07:18:54 AM
Ah that one, yes I saw that years ago on tv, was it really computer-controlled as the site-text says?
Btw, I understand the idea with yout own photo for your avatar and nothing wrong with a Caravan in my oppinion, I just followed Mike's comment which I'd thought of as well (in relation to the posts in the other thread).
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: FlyingBlind on March 08, 2006, 12:34:49 PM
This actually reminds me of a joke! Its originally in Estonian..but ill try to translate...
*Bling Blong* Welcome to the first computer controlled airplane designed by man... Nothing can go wrong .... nothing can go wrong .... nothing can go wrong... nothing can go wrong
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on March 08, 2006, 02:04:39 PM
LOL, perfect translation, I understand it completely! And might I add: Hey someone go up to the cockpit and push the nedle! (I really hope at least one person understands that joke otherwise I'd feel sooo old hehe).
And the skydiving music video, first ever of it's kind, directed by Lars von Trier btw. http://www.laidback.dk/ Double-click "Video Clips" (it's a pseudo computer OS GUI) Double-click "Bakerman" and enjoy :)
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: FlyingBlind on March 08, 2006, 09:49:27 PM
Faaancy! ;D
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 09, 2006, 12:33:18 AM
From what I heard after the crash, the pilots pushed the go-around button and advanced the throttles, but the computers didn't allow the engines to spool up, even though the plane was configured for a go-around. The autopilot held that altitude all the way into the trees.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mike on March 09, 2006, 01:36:35 AM
Hmmm, pretty scary video. I think it's gonna be while before they get rid of pilots completely. We still need them ! even though some are like Chuck, heh heh
Nice avatar Gulfstream !!
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mike on March 09, 2006, 01:43:23 AM
I love that song! The lyrics are a little simple, but what a goofy song! Haven't heard it in ages, thanks Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 09, 2006, 04:18:48 AM
Thanks for the kudos, Frank and Mike. Just wish Airliners.net had better pictures of airplanes in flight. Gulfstream.com wants to e-mail their pictures to you, rather than just having them available for download. :(
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mike on March 09, 2006, 05:09:18 AM
You did good!
You got it going on now man! Picture matches the name, and a great signature! (the signature doesn't appear aviation related at first but if one takes a closer look, one will find that this applies to every pilot out there...heh heh)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 10, 2006, 05:16:29 AM
Got the signature from Bruce Almighty. I should probably put that in there...Wouldn't want people to think I'm clever enough to think that up on my own. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Stef on March 10, 2006, 12:23:17 PM
This site here has a couple of cool videos! On one you see a plane raking off from a carrier right into a giant wave. And it makes it!! Unfortunately the quality is really bad... but still cool! http://www.fromtheflightdeck.com/
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: FlyingBlind on March 10, 2006, 12:35:43 PM
I love the missle test video ! Long live Proximity detonations :D
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: chuckar101 on March 11, 2006, 04:23:20 AM
Cool site. Except you hate to see good warbirds get blown up :'(. You would like to see them put to better use.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on March 11, 2006, 05:45:12 AM
Wow that was indeed wild. That simulator-test was quite funny, but of course only because it was a simulator! Shutting off the good engine when the other one is on fire! I love the line "Don't worry you won't brake anything". It looked to me like student-pilots at the beginning of their training, what do you think? They sure laughed at the poor guy. That wave-takeoff was scary as heck!! :o Incredible that the plane made it! The A380 video was hilarious however! :D The Tomcat refueling was horrible, not a fun thing to happend, wasn't there a big risk of explosion there? Have you seen the video with the large helicopter lining up for refueling and it gets too high and the pilots tilts the rotor so much it cuts off the fuel-pipe? Shows how strong the rotors are I guess since they didn't seem to be damaged, the pilot's spirits however....
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Sleek-Jet on March 13, 2006, 07:48:32 PM
Bob Hoover... (http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_al%20dB0&search=aircraft)
;D ;D
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on March 13, 2006, 08:16:49 PM
WOW!!!!!!! :o :o :o Now that is what I call a real flying demonstration, even if it's actually very simple once you think about it, the test-pilot of the 707 did made a roll with in a demo flight as well and while he said it was a simple 1 g manouvre then it shocked the potentional customers looking at it.
That video is fantastic, thank you so much for sharing the link to it! I must say that after seeing him it made me even more sure of what was posted here earlier that glider-flying might be a very good thing to learn before flying a powered plane to learn to truly utilize what can be done. Mother Nature, gotta love her :)
Btw, is that plane what I think it is? The twin-engine Rockwell Aero Commander?
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Sleek-Jet on March 13, 2006, 08:22:40 PM
Yep....
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 13, 2006, 08:23:00 PM
Btw, is that plane what I think it is? The twin-engine Rockwell Aero Commander?
Yep. I don't think he beefed it up at all, either. Coud be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's still in the normal category.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: fireflyr on March 14, 2006, 03:33:30 AM
Gulfstream, you;re right, the Shrike that Hoover was flying was absolutely stock. Twin commanders were built to withstand 4.5 Gs, that's one of the reasons I love flying them. Of course, ONLY Bob Hoover could do the stuff depicted. I was lucky enough to see him perform in 1987 (I think) at Hamilton AFB at an airshow--a real jaw dropping experience and one that humbled even the best aerobatic pilots. Chuck Yeager is quoted somewhere saying that Bob Hoover is the best pilot he had ever met or seen.
Incidently, one of Hoovers show Shrikes is now owned by Ponderosa Aviation in Arizona where it flies on as an Air Attack platform, it's done up in Ponderosa livery of white and burgandy--can't recall the N number.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mike on March 14, 2006, 05:00:24 AM
You know what guys?
I saw Bob Hoover today !!! I was letting this older gentlemen through the gate cause he was seeing somebody at the airport. He looked familiar but I couldn't put my finger on where I could have met him before. Later somebody said "Did you know who that was!!!??? :o" And I was like "Uhmm...no...but he looks familiar" And he said "That was Bob Hoover man!" Can that be???
I am bummed I didn't see that video a day earlier. It would have been fresh in my mind and I could have asked him for an autograph. That's what you get for spending most of your time in sling wing aviation and not keeping up with the stuck wing world....
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on March 14, 2006, 05:41:53 AM
What a bummer! But at least you saw him and that can be just as good as an autograph at least in my mind. I don't suppose there's an equivalent in the sling-wing world of Bob Hoover is there?
I know there's gotta be a lot of learning to understand how Bob Hoover does that even if it might be sound aerodynamics and physics as well as understanding your plane and having a plane that fits you, but I remembered a trio of developers had made a series of Commanders for FS2004 that had won a lot of awards for extreme detail and accurace so I went looking for it and guess what, at www.avsim.com it said: Now you can be Bob Hoover with the freeware Shrike. And when I installed it and ran FS2004 the second of the three std. liveries was called Bob Hoover :D I'm enclosing a 25% screenshot of my engine-off glide over the runway at SF Intl. It actually handled nicely but only if you didn't apply full back-pressure but then again high-speed stalling is a bit like sliding with a car right? You can't apply full steering in high-speed situations, you have to find the limit and stay within it right?
Btw speaking of the real Shrike, the yoke on the simulated one only turned about 40 degrees from center whereas I know real Cessnas rotate a full 90 degree, is that authentic? (I know these are trivial questions but I'm thinking of making a sim-yoke and I want to have correct movement range).
Btw speaking of videos, did anyone want to see the nutter flying under the Eiffel Tower?
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 14, 2006, 02:56:54 PM
Btw speaking of videos, did anyone want to see the nutter flying under the Eiffel Tower?
You bet!
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Jay on March 15, 2006, 03:48:15 AM
I haven't read all these posts, so please forgive me if I'm repeating this Airbus joke...
(Oh, and please don't be offended if you're a front seat passenger (I mean pilot) of an Airbus.)
Q. What's the difference between a chainsaw and an Airbus?
A. About a thousand trees a minute.
Teehee :)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 15, 2006, 05:03:07 AM
That's a new one. Excellent joke!
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on March 22, 2006, 06:46:28 PM
Btw, did we ever find out who the ones in the Altitude Five clip was?
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: wbarnhill on March 23, 2006, 06:44:34 AM
Speaking of Airbus...
0 to A380 in 7 minutes. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3046542226114078023&q=airbus)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Stef on March 23, 2006, 11:04:37 AM
Hehe! It's got a funny red nose! :D
Seriously, for all you may say, this is a really impressive bird!! 8) I've seen a documentary about it. They said they had to develop a whole lot of new technologies and processes in order to be able to build this thing, e.g. welding techniques (well, building was not the major challenge, but building AND make it light, i.e. economically feasible enough was). I still wonder that it pays to transport the parts over all of Europe... But well, that's European cooperation for you, everybody needs a share of the work...
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 23, 2006, 06:11:49 PM
What a monster. I liked the whale song at the beginning when they showed the completed airplane. The inspiring music really makes you feel safe about getting on one, too. ::)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: fireflyr on March 24, 2006, 10:21:38 AM
Man, that puppy is HUGE!!! I ain't seen that many tires since a visit to the Goodyear factory!
Must feel like you're taxiing a building, can't imagine flying it.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 27, 2006, 01:39:21 AM
0 to A380 in 7 minutes. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3046542226114078023&q=airbus)
Daaaaaaaaaaamn !!! :o
After watching this, Starship Enterprise doesn't seem all that far fetched all of a sudden....
Amen Brother! May we all live long and prosper! \\//_ (corny improvised Vulcan-greeting smiley hehe, and for the record, my current desktop background is an awesome rendition of the Enterprise-D, my favourite, orbiting Earth (I think) with galaxies etc. in the background, I think it's an official background from startrek.com).
Btw, that's typical of the news that CNN article above, actually the test was a success and in a real life situation hundreds of lives could be saved, but they headlined some minor injuries. Of course for a test with no real danger it was too bad there were injuries, but if it was the real thing and that was all the injuries then I think you all will agree the plane design worked well. That title vs the content sadly further confirms what you guys replied about the 60 minutes whistleblower segment, that the media is so interested in ratings that they will give misleading information to get ratings regardless if it will create real-life probelms :(
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 27, 2006, 07:07:14 PM
I guess I would expect injuries in an actual emergency, but not in a controlled environment, in a hangar. No fire, no emergency at all. Just some "debris" in the aisles. Even though it passed the test, I still don't think I'd want to get on one of those things. Getting off the top deck in an emergency would be like jumping off a 3 story building. There are too many people and too many things can go wrong.
You are right about the headline. It was used to grab attention. But, what the article doesn't say is that in an Asian configuration they would need to get 1000 people off that thing in the same amount of time. 1000 PEOPLE!!!! That's a lot. Does anyone know if they've done evacuations in this configuration?
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on March 28, 2006, 12:54:46 AM
This is what happens when I get bored at work... (After I check out www.chickenwingscomics.com of course ;D )
If you look close enough, you can see the vapor before the F-14 passes the ship.
Think his hair was on fire?
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Stef on March 28, 2006, 11:27:27 AM
Haha! I love this one here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8008463048690287283&pl=true It has got nothing to do with aviation, but if you like the Simpsons, you'll like it! ;D
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on March 28, 2006, 11:42:45 PM
Haha! I love this one here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8008463048690287283&pl=true It has got nothing to do with aviation, but if you like the Simpsons, you'll like it! ;D
This was the opener on this weeks episode (Sunday). As a life long Simpsons fan I say "Well done!"
Stef and Mike... looks like you guys have a bit of a Bart hair style going on with your avitars! ;D
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on March 30, 2006, 09:40:58 PM
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on March 30, 2006, 10:21:45 PM
It says it's made by the makers of the Simpsons, but how come it's a RHD Volvo and a old Lada, both not US-market cars? Otherwise I say it's really well-done, even down to the photo-effects of the skate-board over the car and the effect with view going thrue the class-room window that is recreating the look in the cartoon that's most likely done with a simple effect to mimic a real pan but simplified for technical reasons, but to replicate that in real life they need to digitally synch two different camera-recordings since while it gets the message thrue for a cartoon then in real life it'll look much differently, but they did even that detail for the live-action intro, well done :)
I also noticed a headline saying they are continuing the show for several more seasons, wild, that's one show-record that's not going to be surpassed anytime soon, even if they started to try now lol.
That is one wild take-off and no offence but it looked like the plane was almost near stalling since he/she imidietly levelled out very close to the roof of the off-roader after the initial lift-off, or maybe that was planned? The two firetrucks in the back sure seemed to indicate there existed some worry. But on a related topic, have you guys seen someone trying to land on the roof of a road-train while on the move? Not sure if that clip is online but that was kind-of nuts too, even if it was a much smaller plane, maybe a Cub. Speaking of a Cub I saw an online clip once with someone landing one near his friends in barely a car-length when it finally touched the ground!
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on April 01, 2006, 03:55:09 AM
It says it's made by the makers of the Simpsons, but how come it's a RHD Volvo and a old Lada, both not US-market cars? Otherwise I say it's really well-done, even down to the photo-effects of the skate-board over the car and the effect with view going thrue the class-room window that is recreating the look in the cartoon that's most likely done with a simple effect to mimic a real pan but simplified for technical reasons, but to replicate that in real life they need to digitally synch two different camera-recordings since while it gets the message thrue for a cartoon then in real life it'll look much differently, but they did even that detail for the live-action intro, well done :)
I also noticed a headline saying they are continuing the show for several more seasons, wild, that's one show-record that's not going to be surpassed anytime soon, even if they started to try now lol.
It was filmed for the UK market to kick off the new series, which is why the non-US cars. This story should explain things a little more. http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2004580002-2006100428,00.html
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on April 03, 2006, 03:40:23 PM
Speaking of Simpsons...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Roj6U79xuh4
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on April 03, 2006, 10:54:50 PM
oops... :-[ "This video has been removed due to copyright infringement."
Well if you saw it, it was funny...
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mike on April 04, 2006, 04:05:48 AM
kind of a "well you just had to be there" situation...huh?!
he he ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on April 04, 2006, 06:25:10 PM
Kinda... you had to be quicker than the Simpson's Lawyers to have seen it. ;D
But I hear if you go see Ice Age 2, you can see Homer on the big screen in all his yellow glory...They play the teaser trailer in one of the many previews of Ice Age. The trailer is like 30 seconds, so it's not worth spending the $9 for a ticket to Ice Age... that's what my girlfriend says anyway... We'll see about that. Maybe I can borrow my buddies kid, so I don't look like a perv going to see Ice Age by my self... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on April 05, 2006, 02:14:29 AM
Speaking of Ice Age then you can see Cyd as a robot in the background twice in the movie Robots (it's pointed out in the commentary if you can't see it).
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mike on April 05, 2006, 04:54:53 AM
Ok. I LOVED the movie "Ice Age I" so I am definetly going to see the second one. Seen as a pervert or not, I don't care, plus for me it's a tax-write-off (that's right fellas,... "research" !! I am in the cartoon business after all....)
I can't believe the Simpsons are making a movie. I heard it's not out till next year, so it better be good since they're getting everybody hyped up already.
As far as you girlfriend goes Callisto: She doesn't understand your passion for cartoons? WOW! I couldn't be with a girl like that ;D Does she like "Chicken Wings" at least????
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on April 06, 2006, 10:55:12 PM
As far as you girlfriend goes Callisto: She doesn't understand your passion for cartoons? WOW! I couldn't be with a girl like that ;D Does she like "Chicken Wings" at least????
Well... she hasn't seen it... I hate to say she might not get it... she knows what a plane is... but she doesn't share my (our) enthusiasm. I can hear her now... "Ok... I guess thats funny..." Its the same thing she says about the Simpsons... She'll probably just roll her eyes at me ::)
Cest la vie ;D
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Plthijnx on April 06, 2006, 11:15:10 PM
Seen as a pervert or not, I don't care, plus .........
oh man. well, uh, your a pilot aren'tcha??? ;D ::) ;D
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: madpilot44 on April 19, 2006, 04:56:40 PM
hey guys check this one out!! awesome russian acrobatics video in a SU-30 trainer (hence the extra cockpit, trust-vectoring and cannards)
click here (http://cs.uvg.edu.gt/~avi05074/SukoiSU-30MKinRussia.wmv)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on April 19, 2006, 05:02:27 PM
Wow.
We need a "hair on fire" smiley. :)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on April 19, 2006, 05:10:13 PM
I'd say we need a animated jaw-drop smilie and I think one was in the collection I emailed Stef last week so just wait a short while.
About the display: Thank god the cold war is over! I know there are still not the best feelings, at least on the political level, but still. I know the F-22 whatever-name-it-has-now (I have three so far) might have a hidden and visible aircraft stealth/radar team-play but that kind of manouvreability is out of this world. Even with computers isn't it correct that the pilot also has to have some skill? That plane must also have some extreme strength to handle those manouvres I think.
Thanks for the video :) Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: madpilot44 on April 19, 2006, 05:22:23 PM
it shows the impressibe level of aerodynamics it has. it does have fly-by-wire, and trust-vectoring including side-to-side moving capability (wich the F-22 doesn't have) but what's impressive is the engines. I read they have to be very strong to keep working at that high AOA levels (for example, the MIG-29 and the SU family are the only operational planes that can make a cobra, which is the fast-stopping maneouver you see in the video when the a/c goes vertical without climbing). add to this a great pilot and that's what you get
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on April 19, 2006, 05:55:18 PM
You also need a very strong pilot (or a very fat one :) ). I think they guy that invented the Cobra maneuver blacked out while he was doing it. I can't remember the numbers exactly, but I think that's at least a 9G maneuver.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mike on April 19, 2006, 07:33:33 PM
it shows the impressibe level of aerodynamics it has.
Areodynamics??? This thing seems to defy all rules of aerodynamics!!
The thing doesn’t really fly more like the engines just send it places in the sky. I think the plane could have the drag coefficient of a school bus and still do the same maneuvers! ;D
Very cool vid! Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on April 19, 2006, 10:58:35 PM
You know, McDonnel-Douglas proved you could make anything fly if you put a big enough engine on it.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on April 26, 2006, 12:23:25 AM
Speaking of anything flying, am I the only one that wasn't that happy to see the cargo the AS350 decided to give a spin? Mike is that the same as Jane? I think the speaker said it has a 420hp Allisson turbine (I can't remember what thread you wrote about Jane so I thought it might be faster to get you to say it again). Isn't it also a bit fast to fly with the wire hanging so far out or am I overly nervous?
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mike on April 26, 2006, 02:05:42 AM
I think you're overly nervous. We go up to 70kts with the longline and it looks more exciting from the ground when you see us go into a turn with the bucket. That was nice flying the way he brought in his "load" right into the trailer, they do this a lot in the swiss alps (they also fly out a lot of dead horses and cows out of the mountains). It's kind of the same work I do. I have been flying the bucket on a 50ft and sometimes 100ft line for the last 4 weeks here in Arkansas.
As for the type, it's an AS350B3, the bigger brother of the B2 I am flying but the same airframe, just bigger engine (Turbomeca by the way, not Allison). I can't remember the exact horsepower but it's almost 1000hp (I think 890 or so, but I am sure somebody will find out the correct number, fact is I never look at the HP, only at what it can lift at a certain altitdue....) I used to fly the B3 and LOVE it! It's the best light single engine helicopter in my mind (in my little world where I am god and everybody loves me) and it flies circles around it's competitor the Bell 407 out here at fires....
Here is a picture of me lifting a 1000lbs bridge part to 10,000ft in Elko, Nevada with a B3 in 2003. (it's a pretty awesome machine...but I am repeating myself)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on April 26, 2006, 03:06:48 AM
It actually looks like that cow had a really nice flight, though I don't know that a helicopter would be the best way to move a cow 200 ft. :D
If you think about it, the cow has to swing out like that through a corner because of inertia. If the load was always perpindicular to the ground, it would be impossible for the pilot to keep the turn coordinated. The load was always perpindicular to the main rotor, which is where it should be.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on April 26, 2006, 03:40:14 PM
That always amazes me. How you guys (helo pilots that is) can fly with something hanging on such a long line! :o A few months ago there was an A/C unit going on the roof of one of the office buildings near where I work. It was pretty cool to watch, but I didn't think of grabbing a camera :-[ D'OH!
You can tell that air show was not in the US. (you know, other than it’s not in English) No way the P.E.T.A. wackos would have let some cow be hauled around for entertainment purposes ;D
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: fireflyr on April 26, 2006, 04:06:59 PM
That always amazes me. How you guys (helo pilots that is) can fly with something hanging on such a long line! :o A few months ago there was an A/C unit going on the roof of one of the office buildings near where I work. It was pretty cool to watch, but I didn't think of grabbing a camera :-[ D'OH!
You can tell that air show was not in the US. (you know, other than it’s not in English) No way the P.E.T.A. wackos would have let some cow be hauled around for entertainment purposes ;D
;D HEY!!!!!! ;D
I resent that remark! I belong to P.E.T.A. (People Eating Tasty Animals) ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: madpilot44 on April 26, 2006, 05:01:14 PM
great video. no wonder why there are mad cows.... ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on April 27, 2006, 10:39:30 AM
I guess I took a game too far. In Search and Rescue I got a warning for flying with the wire down too fast (no manual so I had to test around to find the controls). About the landing then I was almost worried that there was going to be an accident when the wire came right up the roof of the trailer when they were offloading the cow but maybe it is possible to maneuver that precisely in an AS350? Sounds like you miss your B3, I hope you can get to flying one again and in the meantime that the B2 isn't that bad, btw I'd still like some more pictures of Jane if possible.
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Plthijnx on May 01, 2006, 05:25:02 PM
here is a video depicting the thnderbirds as well as some "in action" videos. http://www.nellis.af.mil/thunderbirds/06showtime.htm
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on May 01, 2006, 06:40:10 PM
Does anyone know if the Tunderbirds will be getting new planes next year? The F-16 is supposed to be decommisioned in '07. Hope they don't get stuck with Predators or something.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on May 01, 2006, 09:24:57 PM
Wow thanks for the link, I didn't know they had such a video! I didn't know the Thunderbirds had existed for that long either, nor that they actually used a Double Ugly at one time, what a truck to do displayes with! :o 8) |:)\
Predator? That was a joke right since it's unmanned. The only other predator fighter I found was one from a japanese cartoon that looked a bit like a Berkut, not bad looking though.
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on May 01, 2006, 11:06:18 PM
Yeah, that was a joke. The Air National Guard here in Fargo are getting their F-16's taken away next year. After that, they'll be flying Predators out of Grand Forks with "operators" in Fargo. We won't have a fighter presence in ND or MN anymore; the closest ones will be in WI. Many of the pilots here are looking to move to units with manned airplanes.
During the last BRAC round, they threatened to close Ellsworth AFB in SD, the 119th ANG Wing in Fargo, and wanted to move all of the nations KC-135's to one east coast location. That would have meant reducing the size of the Grand Forks AFB and giving them a small number of UAV'sl. I'm not sure why they thought having all of the tankers in one place was a good idea. Luckily, the citizens of ND and SD were able to convince the BRAC to keep Ellsworth and Grand Forks open, and actually Grand Forks got the UAV's as well.
I'm not sure how they're going to deal with unmanned vehicles using the same airspace as GA aircraft, including UND's students. ATC will probably figure that out when they get conflict circles for the first time.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Stef on May 02, 2006, 08:00:24 AM
Cool video! Maybe most amazing: I didn't know the guys from the Air Force could march in file! ;D
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Stef on May 12, 2006, 10:00:21 AM
Anybody seen this?
http://www.break.com/index/wingless1.html
I don't know if it's old or new footage, but I don't want to be the last mechanic to have worked on this plane. :-[
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on May 12, 2006, 01:22:45 PM
OUCH! Both wings like that? What are the odds? :o
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on May 12, 2006, 03:42:41 PM
bad day at the office.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on May 12, 2006, 04:25:19 PM
That's the video I was talking about earlier. They said the pilot made wild maneuvers "the yoke pulled into the stomach" and where the announcer at the show allegedly was his wife.
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on May 12, 2006, 08:30:06 PM
I've watched that a couple of times now. I would think that Frank's right about making maneuvers that overstressed the plane, and eventually the wings just couldn't hold the weight of the airplane anymore. Looks like the tail got overstressed, too.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mike on May 12, 2006, 09:34:12 PM
Here's something less shocking and sad and a whole bunch of FUN!!!
This is awesome!! :o
http://kastler.net/videos/benoit.wmv
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on May 12, 2006, 10:02:01 PM
WOW indeed! :o
I never knew there was indoor R/C aerobatics competitions as well. I almost thought that Las Vegas R/C helicopter video was a one-off but there seem to be more R/C aerobatics experts out there! 8) |:)\
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Zaffex on May 13, 2006, 12:48:22 AM
Impressive. Gotta wonder how long it took to learn all the maneuvers, coreaograph the whole performance with the music and stuff. Very cool.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mike on May 16, 2006, 02:01:53 AM
I am gonna post this in here as well since not everybody might read through the really long post in the "controller" thread. The music is pretty cool too!
Gosh boys! that's one of the funniest I've ever seen!! :)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Stef on June 11, 2006, 05:04:51 PM
Has anybody ever posted this video here before? I'm not sure... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1365353836237246497 It starts in German, but the important part is in English, so I'm sure you'll like it! :)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: fireflyr on June 11, 2006, 05:22:29 PM
"Vot are you sinking about?" LOL Thanks, I needed that!
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: happylanding on June 11, 2006, 09:58:22 PM
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on June 15, 2006, 10:42:14 PM
Monty Python so rules! LOL
The Sunday Bloody Sunday mix is fantastic, great song but sadly based on very sad events if I remember my history lessons :(
That Pepsi and Mentos thing looks crazy, but knowing some chemistry as well as having an exam in it then I won't say it's faked, I'm sure some of the carbon-ingredients in both items could cause big reactions, and a nice choreography too!
OMG! Thunderbolts and lightnings are really very very frightening, mama mia! That first one seemed extremely close and the second one from the cockpit almost unreal! No-one was hurt right? I read that composite planes are getting wires woven in since they can't transfer lightning like metal-body planes can so they are in the danger-zone while the metal-ones aren't as much.
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on June 16, 2006, 02:36:12 AM
That Pepsi and Mentos thing looks crazy, but knowing some chemistry as well as having an exam in it then I won't say it's faked, I'm sure some of the carbon-ingredients in both items could cause big reactions, and a nice choreography too!
For as many of these videos out there (search Google Video for mentos and diet coke) It's GOTTA be real... just not as many people have that much time on their hands!
OMG! Thunderbolts and lightnings are really very very frightening, mama mia! That first one seemed extremely close and the second one from the cockpit almost unreal! No-one was hurt right? I read that composite planes are getting wires woven in since they can't transfer lightning like metal-body planes can so they are in the danger-zone while the metal-ones aren't as much.
Frank
I don't know the out come of these... but the videos survived the plane ride... so I assume all is well. After all St Elmo's Fire is a sign of safe passage through storms for sailors... so I would think it would mean the same for pilots right??? :D
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Sleek-Jet on June 19, 2006, 03:34:14 AM
Another one for the thunder and lightning crowed...
(Happy... I'm waiting for some roter-heads to brag that they have done that before. After all isn't bragging what pilots do best? :D :D :D)
The video is amazing, I watched it 3 times before I posted it!
HAHAHA! :D :D Did you already find somebody then?!?!? ???
and...on the subject of diet coke and mentos....does anybody know if it's true? has anybody tried the experiment?!? ??? to get worried about what we eat and drink, were it true!
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on July 14, 2006, 10:39:15 PM
Not yet Happy... but there are a lot of people in the forum! ;D
There are SOOOOOOO many videos out there that I believe it to be true. It's gotta be something with artifical sweetner... everything I've read and seen it's always diet Cole/Pepsi.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on July 15, 2006, 04:10:49 AM
Not yet Happy... but there are a lot of people in the forum! ;D
Gosh. I really want to try this experiment out. And if it goes at shown, sure as hell I won't drink anymore diet coke (and eat mentos)! to get worried about what we do to our stomaches! ??? ???
HAHA, this new flying machine should have won the redbull context!
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Gulfstream Driver on July 15, 2006, 03:25:26 PM
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Zaffex on July 17, 2006, 10:47:10 PM
He he, the lawnmower is pretty funny! Be cool if they could get the blade to spin and see if they could cut some grass or "buzz" somebody! He he! I crack myself up!
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on July 19, 2006, 01:10:11 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4wGR4-SeuJ0
Man am I bored at work lately!!!
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Stef on August 10, 2006, 12:31:53 PM
If you like Star Wars, you'll probably enjoy this: http://www.atomfilms.com/contentPlay/videoAutoPlay.jsp?id=pitching_lucas ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Callisto on August 10, 2006, 02:01:09 PM
HAAA,HHAAA! ;D Looked like some young Marine trying to prove his manhood when common sense took over and he ducked (the intelligent thing to do!
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: cj5_pilot on September 03, 2006, 02:06:26 AM
Took this one at Arctic Thunder 2004 (missed 2006 :( ) I love Fat Albert!
http://media.putfile.com/Fat-Albert-JATO
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: BrianGMFS on September 03, 2006, 03:15:46 AM
Try this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V06LBgfuxgA its a guy landing long with a Citation CJ3 on a 2900 foot runway, and with a tailwind... ends up going for a bit of a swim.
The airport is Bader field in Atlantic City NJ
Brian
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Stef on September 07, 2006, 02:35:26 PM
Try this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V06LBgfuxgA its a guy landing long with a Citation CJ3 on a 2900 foot runway, and with a tailwind... ends up going for a bit of a swim.
The airport is Bader field in Atlantic City NJ
Brian
Ouch!! :o What was that thing with the engine in the end?!? Did somebody do that, or can turbines just power up all by themselves?!? Clearly shows though how well planes swim! I always wanted to see that!
...And now to something completely different: Why you shouldn't fire a flare while you're parachuting: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8862167842666922483&q=genre%3Acomedy
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on September 07, 2006, 04:02:21 PM
That guy was braindead imho, not fun at all, but then again I never did like adrenalin-junkies like that.
I must say the video of the X-Games dude that did a perfect dual backwards flip on a dirt-bike indoors was a fantastic sight, and such a great landing too!
For parachute videos I prefer Laid Back's music-video "Bakerman", I think I gave the link to that some months ago, really nice footage and fun looking too. Must've taken a long time to plan and train for and required some pro's to help with filming and coaching.
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: cj5_pilot on September 10, 2006, 03:19:10 AM
Holy double post batman!
Ok, this one is aerobatics. My favorite shots are the cockpit shots of the gal with the long pony tail in the SU. When she does manuevers here her shows the g-forces. Cool vid!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh-xXov3org
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on September 10, 2006, 10:08:15 AM
The first one has an ID problem. The second one is very good, and what a beauty, the female pilot as well as the flying machines. Is she russian? Not to be stereotypical (and certainly not offensive!) but she has some (beautiful) facial features that reminds of some women from that part of the world. Who were the pilots flying anyway? At the end of the video it said is was a FAI World Grand Prix although the location looked to be northern asia, perhaps Mongolia?
Thanks for the link |:)\ Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mic on September 11, 2006, 06:45:17 AM
It's amazing to compare the face expression of the male and female pilots : the guy looks like stressed, anxious, with quick movements, the beautiful (russsian ?) girl is well concentrated on her action and has no changing expression on the face !
The flights are absolutely awesome ! It can't be done in western Europe with all of our rules (no below 1000ft, depending of your speed, no obstacles ... when you see the sukhoi at few meters of ground, passing between light pylons in dyssimetric flight !! Waouw !
Title: HA HA
Post by: Mike on September 13, 2006, 12:27:40 AM
HA HA !!!
Check this out guys! I found this on Captain Ed's website...
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on September 13, 2006, 08:48:36 PM
Wow, I hope no-one got hurt!
Speaking of videos, did you ever show us the one of the fighters flying underneath you and the cameracrew where you were struggling to gain altitude as the jets came closer and closer?
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mike on September 14, 2006, 12:11:47 AM
Speaking of videos, did you ever show us the one of the fighters flying underneath you and the cameracrew where you were struggling to gain altitude as the jets came closer and closer?
Frank
I don't have that footage unfortunately. But it was during the NASCAR race at the California Speedway... ...maybe there is a way to google it.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: YawningMan on September 26, 2006, 08:38:23 PM
HAAA,HHAAA! ;D Looked like some young Marine trying to prove his manhood when common sense took over and he ducked (the intelligent thing to do!
Sounds like you're referring to this one:
One time, an Air force General, an Army General, a Navy Admiral, and a Marine General met in a bar with a few of their constituents in tow.
The four gentleman had a few drinks, and the topic of bravery in the troops came up.
It just so happened, and enemy tank was spotted coming down the road in front of a bar. The Air Force general chimed in first:
"Hah! My airmen are so brave, I'll send 'em to stop that tank!" He barked an order, and several of the airmen ran out in front of the tank, trying to stop it. They all got run over.
The Navy Admiral was next: "Nice show, zoomy. Watch how it's done by an old pro!" He barked at his seamen, and off they went, ending up the same way.
The Army General, not wanting to be shown up, make a comment about "the old Army", and promptly sent his men after the tank. The results were no better.
All of the top brass finally turned to the Marine General. Silently, he took one last drag from his beer, and shouted, "Private Smuck, front and center!" A skinny private came running up and snapped to attention in front of the General. "Son, you think you're more brave than any Air Force, Army, or Navy man?" "Yes sir!" replied the private. "Then I order you, alone, to go out and stop that tank!"
Without a word, the private ran out the door, but stopped cold as soon as the door swung shut. He immediately turned back, opened the door and shouted, "*#&$ you, sir!"
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: cj5_pilot on September 26, 2006, 10:24:28 PM
ROFL yawning man :)
http://media.putfile.com/Takin-a-Ride
Normally I don't like self promotion, but this is a video I made from my T-6 ride a couple years ago. I don't believe I've posted it here yet. I had a perma-grin for the next week :P
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: BrianGMFS on September 26, 2006, 10:51:56 PM
Great Video Bob... I can see why you had the Grin for a week.
Brian
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on September 26, 2006, 10:56:06 PM
Normally I don't like self promotion, but this is a video I made from my T-6 ride a couple years ago. I don't believe I've posted it here yet. I had a perma-grin for the next week :P
Truly awesome in the original sense of the word |:)\ You just can't experience stuff like that in DK :( But at least the video did give a good glimpse of it, thank you :)
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Mike on October 03, 2006, 11:25:06 PM
Check this out guys!
The SoccerMom sent this to me in an email but I just HAD to share this! I hope it's not in another thread already....
This is really a doozey.
A CJ2 with a landing weight of 11,000 pounds requires 2,930 feet of landing distance, in a no wind situation. With a 10 knot tailwind, which was the approx wind at the time of the accident, the airplane required 3,500 feet of landing distance. Runway 11 at Bader Field is a 2,948 foot-long, 100 foot-wide, asphalt runway. Then the pilot touches down 2/3 of the way down the runway.
You all REALLY want to watch this! Don't give up after the first part where the plane runs off the end of the runway into the water....the best part is yet to come.
http://www.glumbert.com/media/planecrash.html
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: cj5_pilot on October 04, 2006, 12:08:52 AM
Good Lord!!!!!!
Did it turn out somebody was in it? Or did the water cause some electronic malfunction that caused that????
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Frank N. O. on October 04, 2006, 12:52:51 AM
Ah yes OY-JET yes we've talked about this already. Really a bad promotion for danish pilot skills (it was his own plane and he just had a PPL).
Frank
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: tundra_flier on October 04, 2006, 03:35:37 AM
Ah yes OY-JET yes we've talked about this already. Really a bad promotion for danish pilot skills (it was his own plane and he just had a PPL).
Frank
Ah yes, another sad case of more money than brains. :( Very curious about the engine though. Maybe the auto pilot kicked in and was trying to reach altitude. ???
Phil
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: cj5_pilot on October 04, 2006, 04:45:27 AM
Sorta like why V tail Bonanza's got a bad rep...too many doctors with more money then flight time buying them and making an expensive hole in the ground....
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: BrianGMFS on October 04, 2006, 05:35:37 PM
Ah yes OY-JET yes we've talked about this already. Really a bad promotion for danish pilot skills (it was his own plane and he just had a PPL).
Frank
At least he has a sense of humor about it.... he replaced it with a Citation Sovereign with the registration OY-WET
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Turbomallard on October 04, 2006, 08:33:41 PM
*SNORT*
How did he get insurance after that, I wonder? Or not be grounded after being that stupid, not to mention lying about the brakes, etc.? Maybehe has a hired pilot with common sense fly for him now!
TM
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: BrianGMFS on October 05, 2006, 01:38:39 AM
The Sovereign is a much bigger jet that requires a crew of 2... So probably he either just rides in the back now or at least has another pilot up front to try to keep him out of trouble.
Brian
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: FB41 on October 06, 2006, 12:06:14 PM
How did he get insurance after that, I wonder? Or not be grounded after being that stupid, not to mention lying about the brakes, etc.? Maybehe has a hired pilot with common sense fly for him now!
TM
Who sez you gotta have insurance? Some folks fly self-insured...
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Baradium on October 07, 2006, 06:48:10 AM
The explanation given for the engine on the other site was that when you turn on the ignitors on that particular jet if an engine fails the starter will spin the engine up to automatically attempt a restart. After the mishap, he forgot to shut off the master and the system managed to get #2 restarted. I imagine it started injesting water is why it failed the second time.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: cj5_pilot on October 09, 2006, 01:46:03 AM
Ok, I've re-uploaded this. Hopefully it will work this time:
http://media.putfile.com/Arctic-Thunder-Jato
Good music and a C-130 that knows how to get off the ground FAST! JATO!!!!
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: switchtech on October 10, 2006, 02:49:03 AM
Ok, I've re-uploaded this. Hopefully it will work this time:
http://media.putfile.com/Arctic-Thunder-Jato
Good music and a C-130 that knows how to get off the ground FAST! JATO!!!!
For whatever reason, I get audio but no video with that. Must be using a codec I haven't downloaded to the laptop yet.
So what kind of file is it?
jbs
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: cj5_pilot on October 10, 2006, 05:25:16 AM
It's Fat Albert (the Blue Angel's support C-130) making a Jato Takeoff to some AC-DC music at Arctic Thunder 2004. It's a fun vid if it shows up. Put file has been giving me trouble lately
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: tundra_flier on October 10, 2006, 05:44:38 AM
Didn't watch the video, but there is a group with 3 airframes. Two standard and one is the only trainer version of the 262 built. They were refitting them with a modern GE turbofan (original engines did good to last 100 hours) that would provide modern reliability and fuel efficiency. Last I heard they were planning on selling two of them and keeping the 3rd.... asking price was going to be well above my price range is all I remember about it.... something for a really rich guy with a lot of money to burn who wants a really special warbird. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: chuckar101 on October 11, 2006, 02:58:16 PM
And whoever buys it will probably some guy with little to no experience and just want to flaunt cash. So we'll never hear about the plan until he crashes it one day.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: cj5_pilot on October 11, 2006, 03:34:54 PM
There is also an outfit building new Focke Wulfe 190's. They have some original parts and are manufacturing the rest. I understand that they are so authentic that what ever governmental body in Germany decides such things is assigning them consecutive serial numbers with the original Focke Wulfe production series.
Half or more of this sight is in German so my understanding is incomplete but some nice pics!
http://www.flugwerk.de/index.shtm
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: chuckar101 on October 12, 2006, 03:28:57 PM
let"s see if I understand, they are building brand new 190's and 51's. If its true thats really cool.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: fireflyr on October 14, 2006, 04:02:35 PM
Didn't watch the video, but there is a group with 3 airframes. Two standard and one is the only trainer version of the 262 built. They were refitting them with a modern GE turbofan (original engines did good to last 100 hours) that would provide modern reliability and fuel efficiency. Last I heard they were planning on selling two of them and keeping the 3rd.... asking price was going to be well above my price range is all I remember about it.... something for a really rich guy with a lot of money to burn who wants a really special warbird. ;)
You are right, they borrowed an original 2 place trainer from the Navy, dismantled , reverse engineered , and restored it to get templates for the manufacture of new ones which they equipped with modern engines which were made to look like the originals inside the stock cowlings---pretty interesting stuff and veeeeery expensive! Somewhat out of my financial capabilities also. :(
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: fireflyr on October 14, 2006, 05:25:30 PM
Matter of fact, if you want the straight skinny, go here; http://www.stormbirds.com/project/index.html
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Baradium on October 14, 2006, 06:08:44 PM
Anyone have 3 or 4 million bucks to spare to buy one? ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: Firegirl on October 15, 2006, 04:29:36 AM
Hmmm... I wonder if they were even fun to fly. I mean, being first of a kind and all....
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: fireflyr on October 18, 2006, 10:19:15 AM
Hmmm... I wonder if they were even fun to fly. I mean, being first of a kind and all....
Seen a couple of documentaries about them and from the comments of both German and American pilots I believe they were.
Title: Re: Interesting Videos
Post by: BrianGMFS on October 18, 2006, 06:23:43 PM
From what i recall reading, ME-262's were a bit touchy below 200 kts but after that, they were a joy to fly. Willie Messershmitt was one of those rare aircraft designers like Jack Northrup and Kelly Johnson who could almost "see" air.
